LanceH Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 (edited) We first saw these in October but didn't get any photographs cause only one track was really noticeable at the time and I didn't think it was real. Well today I went back and got pics and now it looks like the real deal. There's three ornithopod (3-toed) footprints and they all go in same direction about 45 degrees from direction of the drainage ditch. There's also possibly some sauropod (flat-footed) tracks but they are not as well defined. The well-documented Paluxy River tracks are several miles west of Glen Rose, these tracks are east. Edited January 13, 2010 by LanceHall 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Great find, Lance! Other tracks I've seen in the Upper Glen Rose Fm. are in a similar looking bedrock. The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racevw112 Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Cool Find!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 How did they come to be exposed? "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Congrats man. Awesome finding . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanceH Posted January 13, 2010 Author Share Posted January 13, 2010 How did they come to be exposed? This is in part of a man-made drainage ditch. To the left the tracks layer is eroded away. To the right the track layer is covered by a few inches of gray clay. These tracks are right in the middle layer. The tracks go immediately into a 30 foot wall of rock and shale. The opposite direction they go into a massive open space and theoretically could be uncovered for several hundred feet. There are about 3 feet below grade. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roz Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Just excellent.. More tracks this time. Sure glad you went back to check! Welcome to the forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Owens Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 -----"Your Texas Connection!"------ Fossils: Windows to the past Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barefootgirl Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Very Nice! In formal logic, a contradiction is the signal of defeat: but in the evolution of real knowledge, it marks the first step in progress toward victory. Alfred North Whithead 'Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia!' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Bob Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Heads up find Lance! Do you plan to call a museum, they may be able to dig up the side that you say goes on for several hundred feet. "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." Upton Sinclair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Very very cool!!! I take it not many people know about these? I wonder how long they've been exposed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytowndan Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Awesome find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archimedes Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 (edited) Wonderful walking with the dinosaurs, Great find. Edited January 14, 2010 by Archimedes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLM63 Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Nice work ,Lance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Any possibility of removing them or finding some you can take home Great find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Nice find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanceH Posted February 22, 2011 Author Share Posted February 22, 2011 (edited) Well it's been a year I decided to update... Since that time a "self-taught paleontologist", Jerry Jacene, came in and was given discovery credit in the newspaper. I emailed Jacene and he was less than receptive of our prior discovery. The details are reported in Deb Harper's Glen Rose blog Edited March 4, 2011 by LanceHall 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
non-remanié Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 i dont have to know more than can be surmised from checking the guy's website... keep up the good work lance. ---Wie Wasser schleift den Stein, wir steigen und fallen--- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Hopefully, you and Roz will get the credit. When I went to see the tracks during Fossilmania and found Jerry there, he didn't seem to care when I told him that the tracks had already been reported in January. He just kept mentioning Dr. Farlow and Roger Fry and excavation plans, so he already had to know he wasn't the first to find them from Roger. He seems to have left a trail of unhappy people in Tennessee. His website says that Effective December 26, 2010 Prehistoric Exhibits will officially close it's location in Kingsport, Tennessee. .......Field Operations will continue in Montana and Texas. I guess that means that he is coming back. Apparently, Deb Harper at Salon doesn't want to see him come back. http://salon.glenrose.net/default.asp?view=plink&id=13589 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Lance... I checked the one fact I could for you.. indeed Jacene is not a member of SVP. Have you been in touch with Roger Fry lately over this? Seems he oughta know what all has been going on. I'm not sure what power he might have, but it can only help. I know Roger and I think he will be at the prepartor's conference in April. I can have a word with him if need be. Meanwhile, keep up the good work. And not to be a DebbieDowner, but sometimes things like this just end up unresolved with people hating each other. There is such a tale for the Red Gulch Dino Tracks in northern Wyoming. Two teams, two stories, two claims and no-one speaks to each other. Have you been in touch with the landowner? After all, it is his land, and he can do with it as he chooses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Cope/Marsh lite... "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear-dog Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 name='Auspex' timestamp='1298382275' post='209275']Cope/Marsh lite... :laughing on the floor 24: Agreed. Bear-dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I don't know how this fits into Lance's tale, but Jacene's made the news again. My link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanceH Posted March 3, 2011 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 (edited) I ask all my friends here at the forum that if they attend an event where Dr. James O. Farlow maybe attending such as an upcoming GSA or SVP event that they seek out Mr. Farlow and let him know about our prior reporting here. He already knows but it would be good to hear from other people. Jacene said he would be "working with Farlow" on these tracks. As many of you know I had these tracks posted to this forum since January 2010 a full 10 months before Jacene found them. I've written Farlow and he said he would give us credit but I don't know if that's full or just part. I have taken the time to compile an extensive accounting of our discovery and credible people we reported them to: http://www.northtexa...ackshistory.htm My only mistake was NOT reporting to the Glen Rose Reporter newspaper. Their response so far to the discovery issue has been silence. The last I heard is that the Topeka Gem & Mineral Society was driving all the way down to help start excavation in mid March. Edited March 4, 2011 by LanceHall 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanceH Posted March 3, 2011 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 (edited) Lance... I checked the one fact I could for you.. indeed Jacene is not a member of SVP. Have you been in touch with Roger Fry lately over this? Seems he oughta know what all has been going on. Roger said he first got contact with Jacene the same day of the Key to City event for the little cancer girl on Oct. 30, 2010. Roger and Derek Main were also in Glen Rose for the Fossilmania Event. There was a woman watching over the tracks and Roger gave the woman his contact info so that's how Jacene got connected with Roger for excavation duties. I recently talked to Tom Dill who witnessed Roger and the woman and said that the woman basically said that a "big paleontologist from back East discovered them. " Roger then showed her HIS log book (he's very meticulous) and pictures that proved that WE (Lance, Roz, Roger) were there long before Jacene discovered them. Edited March 4, 2011 by LanceHall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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