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If this was a modern leaf fragment from my area, I'd guess some species of poplar or aspen. What we can say (although I'm not an expert at plant fossils, so I could be wrong) is that this looks like a broadleaf tree leaf, in the angiosperm branch of the plant kingdom. Angiosperms (aka flowering plants) first appeared in the Cretaceous. So that should narrow the timeframe down to the last 100 million years. Good luck!
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I agree! It's also really cool to see fungi infecting plants and even other fungi!! I may have a thing for parasitoid wasps as well For whatever reason, I find these complex relationships/interactions to be so interesting! I'll have to post some examples of all of these another time!
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Not seeing any nodes on these to imply Calamites. I too, am seeing some Sigillaria sp. type bark patterns, and some other types of plants possibly. Could be some Cordiates leaves, and other plant hash in some of the later fossils. A bit of Lepidodendron, and possibly some other decorticated barks/limbs/stems as well.
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It very well could be a cone. Probably is, in fact. I just hate to assign an ID without a complete specimen. I have seen some branches that look similar, but, I can't say for sure, one way or another. Your specimen is broken, and therefore a bit more difficult to ID positively, in my opinion. Carboniferous plants can be tricky. And it is not totally my wheelhouse, so I would wait and get some more answers. Maybe @paleoflor @fiddlehead @Rockin' Ric can weigh in on this.
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A few weeks ago some friends and I visited a site near Braidwood in southern NSW (3 hours south of Sydney) for middle-late Devonian fish. The site was first published in Ritchie (1984) with the description of Placolepis budawangensis, a phyllolepid known only from this locality. This species is one of the two most common here, with the other being Bothriolepis longi (see Johanson 1999). So far, only these two species have been described from this locality but acanthodian spines and sarcopterygian scales are also known. All fish fossils from this locality occur in within a 75cm band of red siltsone and are mostly just disarticulated plates, but the P. budawangensis holotype is still fairly well articulated. The plates of both species are very recognisable, the Placolepis usually have lovely parallel ridges whereas the Bothriolepis are covered in tiny bumps. Some photos of the siltsone band with some fish plates exposed on top. Peter did a great job on this hole, it's not easy work! The specimens from this locality are quite weathered, so the bone is usually quite poor and doesn't split well. They still look nice, but I chose to dissolve away the bone in hydrochloric acid to latex the cavity for photography. Here are some as found: Placolepis: Bothriolepis: Some bone in cross section (the horizontal black dotted lines): Here are some latex casts of specimens after acid preparation. The latex is blackened with ink, then whitened with ammonium chloride for high contrast photos. Much easier to make out features in these than the unprepared specimens! Bothriolepis longi plates and pectoral fins (compare with figures in Johanson 1999): Placolepis budawangensis: Sarcopterygian scale(?): No idea on this one! After the fish site, we quickly stopped in at a road cutting which yields occasional Devonian plant fossils. Nothing too exciting, but still nice to find some Devonian plants! That's all for now, I might post more ammonium chloride photos when I take the next batch. Hope you enjoyed!
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Was sure had posted this is collections. Must have mixed up at time. Got a few more plants. #1 (leaf) #2 #3(leaf) (like this one looked like was partly ate)
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In my opinion you have two plants here. Both are clearly seen in the bottom picture. The rounded heavily carbonized and inflated pinnules with the fine and indistinct venation is Eusphenopteris neuropteroides. The elongated pinnules with distinct venation is a neuropterid. From the venation, small size and the shape of the terminal pinnule, it best conforms to Laveineopteris rarinervis. If you are still interested, the guide I would recommend is: A COMPREHENSIVE GUIDE TO THE FOSSIL FLORA OF MAZON CREEK... of course. Hope this helps, Jack
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@paleoflor Looks like some form of Lepidodendron to me. Wait for Paleoflor, as Tim really knows his Carboniferous plants.
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Could be beetle. Learning it can be hard telling some of these insects or plants apart. I only added #2 because the detail was great but was to bad I couldn't save the broke part, it was just to thin and falling apart. The second half below showed the whole thing but didn't have the nice detail.
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What was the first fossil you ever found?
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I was around 6 or 7 when I found the first fossil I can remember to. Grow up in a region with old coal mines and found carboniferous plants on an old spoil tip. Long long ago...- 23 replies
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Last year, I drew a Hyneria lindae, based off of recent discoveries and related fish. As soon as I finished it, I started working on a Hynerpeton bassetti, the Ichthyostegoid from the same site that is known from a shoulder girdle and a jaw, and possibly some other material as well. Hynerpeton is known to have been more muscular than Ichthyostega, because of the larger muscle attachments on its cleithrum (shoulder), and at one point was thought to have lost its external gills, but significant doubt has been cast on the evidence for this claim. Hynerpeton's jaw is not as robust as another stegocephalian from the site, Densignathus rowei, which was more derived and muscular. For this reconstruction, the skull (which is covered in skin but fully reconstructed) was based off of Ichthyostega, but the jugal bone was based off of a specimen from Red Hill that has been attributed to Hynerpeton. The shape of this bone affected those around it and suggest slightly different proportions in Hynerpeton than in Ichthyostega, especially concerning the shape of the orbit. The shoulder was incorporated so that the shape of the trunk would be correct, and the foot pads were based off of tetrapod footprints from the Early to Middle Devonian. The lateral line is again based off of its placement of Ichthyostega, as were the scales. In the background, above the water's surface, a forest of Archaeopteris spp. trees and Otzinochsonia beerboweri lycopsids is visible; within the murky river, the red mud that gave Red Hill its name after it was deposited is covered over with plants. This reconstruction is meant to be a sequel to my Hyneria lindae reconstruction I finished about five months ago; unfortunately, I have no specimens of Hynerpeton, which is very rare. If anyone would like to see any citations for the papers that I used in making this reconstructions, please ask below. Enjoy!
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No, its not necessary on all fossils. If they are solid and strong they dont have to have it, but on vertebrate material I generally apply a thin mixture just ensure any micro-cracks cant get worse. Some fossils, especially plants may look much worse if a coating is applied. Its always best to try on broken scraps before applying to the really nice one.
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Maybe, but it seems more like a animal than classic fern fiddle head. It kinda has a more 3D structure than the plants here. That and the segments are meshed together more akin to a Millipede.
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Hello. I found this rock on the shore of a beach in Narragansett, R.I. It was buried pretty good wedged between other rocks and can tell these are plants of some sort. I broke the rock in half and it’s inside and outside of the rock as well. Was wondering further information. Thank you. 72983672556__F86D833E-8517-47BA-8B91-3D058EEEE308.MOV 72983676876__E73E2472-B58F-4969-A5BE-885B7965DB96.MOV 72983685808__B60707A6-3F94-47ED-81DC-6A4B4DE5347A.MOV
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Hello, may I know what this is? It comes from Xinjiang, China. This is the only information I know. I asked for help on the forum on behalf of my friend. Is it a dinosaur tooth attached to minerals? Or fossil fruits of plants? Just a guess. Thank you! mmexport1707968651024.mp4
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These are sometimes called sea lilies, but they are not plants. Coal was often formed when sea levels rose flooding costal swamps. That could explain their presence in a coal mine.
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Interesting finds! Congrats. I still find it incredible that Carboniferous plants can be found in eastern Massachusetts and Rhode Island, but the geology is just right. Thanks for sharing.
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Thanks for the reply. Very interesting. I had to look up "decorticated" LOL. The conchoidal fracture is kinda neat. #3 is so interesting to me. Bubbly effect that grabbed my attention. I tend to agree that #4 & #5 could be plants. Appreciate your input 👌 Someday will return to this locality and search for more. Much to explore and learn! 😊
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When a large number of pieces are posted, it really helps if they are numbered. Also, I have no idea of the size of these pieces. Not knowing where they were collected, or some rough age for the pieces, makes an ID a lot harder. Are the pieces hard and heavy like rock? I can definitely see wood/plant cell structure in a number of the pieces. Some look like wood or for others maybe ferns. Cell structure can completely disappear during the mineralization process. So pieces without cell structure can also be fossilized wood/plants. All the pieces need to be looked at under high magnification to clearly see what cell structure, if any, is there for each piece. Plant/wood cell structures are so similar, you really need an expert to get IDs for the pieces. Try taking them to a local museum. Marco Sr.
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Looks like Orbiculoidea sp. to me too. But are the other fossils plants?
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My wife and I went on a fossil hunting trip yesterday to check out a Triassic spot, New Oxford formation, in northeastern York county, Pennsylvania. It took us a bit to find the spot but once we did, we made a couple nice finds. The first rock is about 30 cm long, about 23 cm wide, and about 15 cm thick. It weighs almost 13 kilograms (about 28 pounds). While I'm not absolutely certain, I think this piece has several tree branches running through it. Branch #1, about 23 cm long and about 3 cm wide Branch #2, about 24 cm long and about 2 cm wide Underneath of branch #2, were several black pieces. I'm guessing they're carbonized pieces of the wood? Branch #3 about 12 cm long and about 3-4 cm wide. Branch #4 (ok maybe this one is more like a twig!) 6 cm long and about 1 cm wide The second rock is about 23 cm long, about 13 cm wide, and about 7 cm thick. It weighs almost 3 kilograms (about 6 pounds). This rock only has one plant fossil that I could see. It is about 8.5 cm long and 1.5 cm across. You can see what appears to be a cast of the branch with an imprint on the side going up from the cast. These last two pieces I'm unsure of whether they are plant fossils or just some interesting geologic somethings. This is mystery piece #1 This is mystery piece #2 This was our first Triassic spot! We were excited to make these finds. After hitting our fair share of Devonian and some Carboniferous spots it was nice to find a different time period and new, to us, fossils! Hopefully, I've correctly identified these finds as plant fossils! If anyone could recommend a resource to help us identify Triassic plants that would be very helpful!
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Welcome to the fossil forum. I am pretty good at identifying fossils, especially in Florida. The animal fossils I find are not organs, but bone, tusk and teeth. To help here, you need a geologist rather than a paleontologist. Most rocks and stones are formed by geologic activity millions of years ago. This is not to say that you would not find fossils of plants and animals that existed millions of year ago. but I see no evidence of such fossils here. Lets see what others say..
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Hi, I´m living in Germany and I love fossils since I´m a little boy. Me and my brother grew up in an old coal mining area in West Germany and would found fossilized plants and ferns behind our garden.
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@Missourian Thank you for the very detailed info and great photos. I've a similar generalized association in our earliest Pennsylvanian formation here which directly overlies the last of the Mississippian formations. The plant remains I stumbled across would represent the first land plants in our section of New Mexico. Rootlets with lots of cordaite strap sections overlying them. Plus, a sprinkle of fern leaves intermixed.
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I've interpreted these as roots of Cordaites (though I could be wrong). The Winterset limestone in my area (Kansas City) likely represents two marine cycles divided by an erosional surface. The limestone at the top of the lower unit is often oxidized and riddled with the rootlets. An illustration of this horizon in a stratigraphic chart (orange level at middle, with maroon rootlets): This oxidized root-bearing horizon is present across the entire metro. Also widespread is a consistent scattering of Cordaites leaves in the limestones above the disconformity throughout the area (indicated as 'ferns' in the chart above). A few of these leaves can be found in nearly every exposure of the upper Winterset. I figure things could have gone something like this: 1. The lower units were deposited in a deep marine cycle. 2. Sea depth dropped, exposing the sediments. The erosional surface, now exposed to air or very shallow water, became oxidized. 3. Cordaite mangroves became established, shifting across the area as conditions varied. Their roots penetrated the older sediments below. 4. Various processes deposited sediments above. Pieces of cordaite plants were incorporated. 5. The sea continued to rise, but not to the extent of the previous cycle (see sea-level curve in chart above). This large wood fragment (also shown in the post above) may be part of a crown with branches, or it could be a base ('stump') with roots that could indicate a possible mangrove-style plant: Example of Cordaites leaves in the upper Winterset throughout the metro area... Leaf bundle from far northeast Kansas City: Scattered leaves from north-central Kansas City, found near the 'stump' above Leaf from southeast Kansas City: A piece of wood, also from southeast Kansas City:
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