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  1. Fin Lover

    Jaw or grinding plate?

    I found what I thought was a tiny piece of jaw (11 mm long and 5 mm thick). My rookie guess was rodent, fish, or something else small. The hole/socket size is consistent with a piece of rabbit jaw I have, but the holes seem to be a different shape (I think...my rabbit jaw still has teeth in it). However, the rabbit jaw is smooth bone on both sides and this one is smooth on one side but has a pattern similar to a pharyngeal grinding plate/mill on the other side (which I didn't notice immediately). So, is it a grinding plate that happens to have holes on the end, or a jaw that happens to have this pattern? Thank you!
  2. Savvas

    Is it really Leptolepis

    Just need to double check that this fish fossil is indeed Leptolepis Bronni, as the seller states. Thank you all.
  3. Hello, I just signed up here because I am looking for fossil data on the Cenomanian North African hybodont Distobatus nutiae. Information on it has proven to be elusive and I do not have the means to access the article in which it was first described. I am particularly interested in information relevant to the potential size and diet of this species. While I'm at it, in my research I've also noticed that hybodont reconstructions even of the same genus (such as Hybodus) are variously reconstructed with either one or two pairs of cranial claspers. Is it clear from the fossil data how many pairs of cranial claspers male hybodonts were equipped with? Did it vary at the family, genus, or even species level? Hopefully this is the right area of the forum to seek this information, thanks in advance.
  4. Misha

    Onychodus sigmoides

    From the album: Misha's Middle Devonian Fossils

    Onychodus sigmoides sarcopterygian fish teeth Middle Devonian Onondaga Limestone Jamesville Quarry Central NY
  5. rodrex

    Pterosaur or Fish?

    Hello All, I have seen a previous topic on FF about Kem Kem Pterosaur teeth vs. fish teeth. Which got me thinking about a tooth that I collected last year from the Toolebuc Formation, Queensland Australia, but just thinking it was a fish tooth, however its quite long, and Im not sure it matches exisiting fish from the Toolebuc. Scale is in CM. Thoughts? thanks Rodney
  6. Mikrogeophagus

    A Little More Atco Action

    Disclaimer: I'm still not 100% sure if the layer I'm hunting in is the basal Atco, but I am under the impression that it is for now. Hopefully I'll be able to do a hunt at Midlothian with the DPS some time soon to get a reference for what the Atco is really supposed to look like. In the past month, I've taken another visit to my little Atco spot to try and learn the place a bit better. I scouted farther upstream and downstream as well as another creek not so far out. There were some pretty cool finds, but I'll keep the story short since I've already covered this locality in a previous report. After a bit of creek walking, I was relieved to see that the latest storm had washed out some fresh conglomerate for me to start splitting at the main gravel bar. Most of the teeth present in the matrix are extremely weathered from reworking, but now and then, a pristine specimen can be revealed and carefully extracted. The first of these discoveries came from just the second rock I had picked up. Some of you may relate to that moment of disbelief when you open the two slabs and realize you are face to face with a huge tooth in mint condition. I hate having to glue broken teeth together, so I proceeded with extreme caution. Still not totally sure if this is Cretodus houghtonorum or Cretodus crassidens, but for now I am tentatively calling it C. houghtonorum since its cusp is more gracile and seems to lack the ovular shape of C. crassidens. One interesting feature of the tooth is the presence of a an extra little cusplet which can be seen in the labial views between the central cusp and distal cusplet. Whatever species it may be, it is a first in my collection, so I am am pretty content. I traveled a little ways up a feeder creek and came across the root of a decently sized Cretalamna gertericorum. The matrix was hard, so I ended up having to clean it at home. Sadly the central cusp was really banged up. Tough to spot, but the root of C. gertericorum Cretalamna gertericorum. On the left is the new specimen and on the right is one from my first visit to the site after recent repairs. At a later gravel bar, I finally found something sticking out of the matrix that I had been really hoping to find. Some of you may remember that my last trip to this spot had yielded a prearticular tooth to a meter long pycnodont fish called Acrotemnus streckeri. These fish are also documented as having pharyngeal teeth. I managed to finally pocket one at this site and one at the later site I'll soon cover. I can't say for sure these are from A. streckeri, but their large size does make it a candidate. Pycnodont pharyngeal in situ A couple of pharyngeal teeth I will tentatively assign to Acrotemnus streckeri. It's kinda neat these teeth share the bluish grey color of the prearticular tooth. Before I show off the final find from the main Atco site, I'll quickly go over the second location I visited. The plan was to locate the Atco there as well, but with all of the modifications made to the creek, I wasn't able to find the source of the Atco rubble I found scattered along the stream. Nothing remarkable was found, but that isn't too say I didn't come out with at least a dozen small teeth. Here a couple pictures of some interesting geologic formations. Huge ripples were found on a lot of the washed out matrix. Located in the uppermost Arcadia Park was this limy layer that was rich in vertebrate material and gastropods. I came across this giant concretion that really stood out. I wonder if anything's inside it. And here is an overview of the smaller finds from the trips: Top L to R: Squalicorax falcatus, Cretodus houghtonorum, and Cretalamna gertericorum Bot L to R: Xiphactinus sp., Acrotemnus streckeri, and various ptychodus Back to the main site, as I was wrapping up the day, I came across some hardened material on the shale bottom of the creek bed above the conglomerate layer. Usually these sort of things are only broken oyster bits, but the shape and density of this one seemed odd so I went in for a closer look before noticing how dark the object was underneath the algal growths. It soon became clear that this was a string of 5 very large fish vertebrae and I begun working around the fossil to pop it out whole. Thankfully, I was able to do just that and the sight as I flipped it over sent me jumping up and down. I scoured the surrounding area, but did not locate any more of the fish. Makes me imagine one day 90ish million years ago this chunk of fish was all that was left after a shark attack or maybe something of the like. After bringing it home, I was able to scrub off the larger chunks of algae, but a hard "calcareous" layer remained attached directly to the bone. I tried soaking it over multiple nights in a bleach water solution and slowly worked off pieces with a dental pick during the day. The plan was to use the other side as display, so I wasn't too concerned with abusing the algal side, but of course I would have liked to have as little damage done as possible. One of the verts was offset, so it quickly broke off from the stress of picking at it. Later another vert came off, but this wasn't an issue as I could easily glue them back later. The work was tedious and took time. On the display side, I worked off the shale with a needle and frequent brushing. Slowly the form become more and more apparent. Soon enough, I decided it was time to get the paraloid out. On a site with so many professional preppers, I'm sure this doesn't look all that impressive, but I am suuuper happy to have this on display and proud of the work. It's fun to hold and imagine the sheer size of the beast these bones once belonged to. I hope you all enjoy it as well. Thanks for reading
  7. Mikrogeophagus

    Fish Verts, Atco

    From the album: Austin Chalk

    Fish Verts, DFW Coniacian, Cretaceous Mar, 2023
  8. Mikrogeophagus

    Scomberomorus sp.

    From the album: Eocene

    Scomberomorus sp., Burleson Co. Lutetian, Eocene Dec, 2022
  9. Mikrogeophagus

    Trichiurides sp.

    From the album: Eocene

    Trichiurides sp., Burleson Co. Lutetian, Eocene Mar, 2023
  10. Mikrogeophagus

    Removing Tough Algae on Shale

    So yesterday, I found several associated verts to a large fish. It was partially exposed on the creek bottom and it had been awhile since the last rain, so tons of algae grew on it. I managed to pop it out in one piece and have begun trying to clean it up. Since fish and shale are sensitive when it comes to drying and wetting, I've kept it in water for the time being while I attempt to remove the algae. I will paraloid sections later once the algae is gone. I tried submerging the specimen overnight in about 2:5 bleach water solution to kill anything living on it. Afterwards I was able to scrub most of the larger bits of algae off, but there seems to be this millimeter thick layer of yellow algae/hardened matrix attached to the bone where it was exposed to water. I don't know if this is some calcium buildup or what, but it's tough to pry off and sometimes takes chunks of bones with it. I would try vinegar, but the fossil came out of what I believe to be Atco Fm, so even though the matrix has the appearance of shale, I would expect there to be some calcium carbonate in it that might dissolve. I'd prefer to have the vertebrae stay set in the matrix as the originally were if possible. The ultimate plan is to use the other side for presentation. One of the verts was offset and broke off the main chunk shortly after removal, so I could experiment a little with it first if needed. Thoughts? Thanks
  11. Misha

    Pteraspids

    From the album: Lower Devonian fossils

    Zascinaspis heintzi dorsal plate and rostrum, including details like orbits still preserved alongside a ventral plate from another pteraspid, possibly Podolaspis sp. Lower Devonian Podolia Ukraine
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