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  1. I live in morocco and everytime i got to Marrakech,i would go buy fossils from shops and i always recognize 50 percent of the time if it's fake or real but that is the problem,i can never know if it's real or false with teeth and i was just wandering if anyone knows a way to identify a fossil while buying it and not seem suspicious to the seller. And also this is a tooth i bought last week of the mosasaurus family.the mesurement is in cm.
  2. Tidgy's Dad

    I'm Okay

    I've had a few e-mails and PMs, so thanks for those everybody, but just a message here to let you all know the latest. Last night, a little after 11 pm, the sofa started jiggling about, so I asked wifey if she was bouncing around and she asked me the same thing. Then we noticed that the pictures on the walls were flapping about and there were ripples in the coffee. We knew what was happening and after a couple of minutes, it stopped. Fes has been spared as we are a considerable distance from the epicentre, though places further south and west have been badly hit. I've spent today confirming that the people I know down there are okay and, thankfully, they are. wifey and I went and gave blood, there's not much else we can do. Thousands are dead, injured and missing down there. It was completely unexpected and terribly sad.
  3. Hello all, I've just got a Coltraneia effelesa from Ma'der, Taharajat, Outfaten, Morooco, app. 410-390 mio. years. Is this ok? It's glued (you see with UV), a hot needle cold not penetrate it and acetone did nothing to the little bugger. Rod @rew @piranha @Kane
  4. Hello everyone, it's been a while since I last posted on the forum In the last year my collection has reached 33 specimens, so I guess that "road to 35" is extremely close! Today I wanted to show you a specimen I acquired very recently, specifically last March! Species: Cretalamna maroccana (Arambourg, 1935) Size: 2.5 tall, ~3.0 cm long Age: 72-66 mya (Late Cretaceous, Maastrichtian) Origin: Ouled Abdoun basin (Morocco) About this fossil: a nicely preserverd shark tooth, with only a small hole on the front part of the tooth's root; I especially appreciate the two lateral cusplets, which are extremely nice to admire. Definitely one of my favorites!
  5. Tidgy's Dad

    New Abelisaurids From Morocco.

    https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2023/08/357255/discovery-of-ancient-dinosaur-offers-glimpse-into-moroccos-diverse-prehistoric-ecosystem
  6. FF7_Yuffie

    Unusual Kem Kem tooth -- croc?

    Hi, This is only photo until the tooth I arrived--I bought it when I saw it because of the low price and the fact it is quite unusual. And this was the only pic on the site. A tooth, sold as crocodile from Kem Kem. 9mm in height. It looks a bit like Hamadasuchus, but with that ridge down the center. A different positional Hamadasuchus tooth? Or a juvenile? cheers I will post more pics when I can.
  7. Hello everyone ! I have these two fossil vertebrae from the Kem Kem formation from Morocco (no exact location) and I can't identify them. Can someone help me please? They are very different from each other. The red vertebra n.1 has an oval shape and has mirrored holes on both sides, while above it has a larger some. I initially thought it was Hybodus or Onchopristis, but I'm not sure, it could be many other shark species. The white vertebra n.2 does not have any type of hole on the edge and is almost perfectly round, I believe it is a completely different species from the first. Thank you.
  8. Brett Breakin' Rocks

    Denver Gem and Mineral Show

    Hello Everyone, It feels like Deja Vu .. but it is that time of year again .. again. Wait, have I posted this already. A photo dump, of the few photos I snapped, of some of my more interesting finds. The Crowne Plaza had some enourmous mineral specimens and some fantastic fossils on offer this year. Though most were way outside of my budget. But photos are FREE ! The cutest fake fossil ? Yes ... and I almost bought one. I kick myself still for not pulling the trigger. Selfies with minerals anyone ?? .. yes please. Children for scale. I like it and I'm sticking with it, because I'm a rebel. Who needs a proper scale anyway. 1 FINN Height Unit (well, you can't see his feet) My daughter found her favorite, but alas we could not roll this one home. Moroccan tooth. Most likely Auriculatus. Fantastic price for such a nice tooth. They are normally quite beaten up. My other Moroccan finds. I love these for stocking stuffers The dealer I frequent from South Carolina. They are black water divers and have the best cetacean teeth and other bits and pieces. Great for school visits etc ... this stuff is sold by the pound. A sloth tooth partial. Mastadon (or Gomphothere ? .. probably a Gomph tooth) Tooth Cusp Extinct Billfish Vertebra Cheers, Brett
  9. Taxonomy from Taverne et al. 2015. Palaeobalistum gutturosum, originally described by Arambourg in 1954 from the Cenomanian deposits of Jebel Tselfat in Morocco, was doubtfully ranged in the genus Nursallia by PoyatoAriza & Wenz in 2002. Taverne et al. 2015 established the new genus Paranursallia for "Nursallia" gutturosa. Etymology. — From the Greek para, near, close to, and the generic name Nursallia. Diagnosis for the genus Paranursallia from Taverne et al. 2015, p. 2018: "Nursalliinae with a large head, a wide orbit and a very short snout. Paired broad prefrontals present. Short mesethmoid. Parasphenoid short and straight. Mandible triangular and as deep as long. Wide dermosphenotic. A large and deep “V”-shaped notch at the ventral junction between the skull and the cleithrum. First neural arches fused in a large synarcual articulated on the rear of the skull. First 7 or 8 neural spines autogenous. 27 to 30 vertebral segments before the epichordal series. Neural and haemal arches interlocked by two pre- and two postzygapophyses. Dorsal and anal fin with about 70 pterygiophores each." Line drawing of the head from Taverne et al. 2015, p. 223: Identified by Prof. L. Capasso, Università degli Studi G. d'Annunzio Chieti e Pescara, Italy. References: Arambourg C. (1954) Les poissons crétacés du Jebel Tselfat. Notes et mémoires du Service Géologique du Maroc, 118: 1-188. Poyato-Ariza F. J. & Wenz S. (2002) A new insight into pycnodontiform fishes. Geodiversitas 24 (1): 139-248. Taverne L., Layeb M., Layeb-Tounsi Y. & Gaudant J. (2015) Paranursallia spinosa n. gen., n. sp., a new Upper Cretaceous pycnodontiform fish from the Eurafrican Mesogea. Geodiversitas 37 (2): 215-227. http://dx.doi.org/10.5252/g2015n2a3 Capasso, L. (2020) SEGNALAZIONE DEL PICNODONTIFORME PARANURSALLIA GUTTUROSA (ARAMBOURG, 1954) NEI CALCARI DOLOMITICI DEL CRETACEO SUPERIORE DI GARA SBAA, MAROCCO SUDORIENTALE. Atti Mus. Civ. St. Nat. Trieste 61, p. 153-162.
  10. Opabinia Blues

    Kem Kem Bone Grab Bag

    Every year at the Denver fossil show it seems like I pick up some unidentified Kem Kem material. This is because for one it’s cheap, but also because it’s kinda fun to investigate this material. Here are eight pieces I picked up as a bulk set. I have some idea about identification on each of these but would love to hear other’s input. In the following pictures I have the top row being archosaur fossils and the bottom row being fish fossils. My guesses: 1. Caudal(?) vertebra centrum. Croc or theropod, but probably croc. 2. Croc dorsal vertebra 3. Croc centrum 4. Theropod pedal phalanx. Specifically, the distal-most phalanx of toe 1 (the “dew claw”). Narrowest ID I think I could guess we would be Ceratosauria indet., should probably be labeled as Theropoda indet. 5. Two fused fish vertebrae. Are these identifiable any more than this? 6. Gar or gar-like vertebra 7. Chondrichthyan fish vertebra. Maybe Onchoptistis numida? Can that determination even be made? 8. A gigantic ganoid scale. Any guesses just based on size? I’m unfamiliar with all the monster fish in this rock unit. Thanks :)
  11. Recently I received from my girlfriend a supposed Acanthoceras Ammonite. We both would love to know if it's faked in some way or real. We are already very grateful.
  12. Georgemckenzie

    Ordovician Or Cambrian Moroccan trilobites

    Hiya everyone I bought a small collection of trilobites last week. most are labelled, except these 3. They're Moroccan, and my guess would be Cambrian or Ordovician.
  13. Mioplosus_Lover24

    Polycotylid Plesiosaur Tooth From Kem Kem?

    I bought this tooth on impulse a few days ago. To me it looks like a fully rooted Plesiosaur tooth. It has all the characteristics of being from the Kem Kem Beds aswell. I've not seen any other rooted teeth to compare it to. So, did I score, or did I buy a crocodile tooth?
  14. Howdy! I'm just wondering if this is real. I've never seen one like this. It's Moroccan, Ordovician, Asteroidea or true Starfish. Thanks for the help.
  15. Hi everyone! I am offering two of my better spinosaurus indet. teeth from the KemKem group, Morocco. I am looking for other theropod teeth myself. Perhaps a more rooted spinosaurus. Just no stuff from Niger. The red one is 6 centimeter. This one is 11.4 centimeter
  16. Does anyone have recommendation for website, forum page or book to id fossilised shark teeth? Im hoping to add some shark teeth for my collection but I would like to study bit more about them. I think I most likely encounter Moroccan and US ones. Thanks for the replies.
  17. hello everyone, I came across this, and the price is fair. Thought it would make a nice office conversation piece. Of course the question is whether it's real or Memorex---sorry, dating myself there, lol---not. I don't see anything glaring, but this isn't my forte. So, thoughts: From Morocco or Made in Morocco? I appreciate any thoughts or recommendations
  18. LordTrilobite

    Kem Kem Vertebrae ID Thread

    So, lets figure out vertebrae from the Kem Kem beds. As many of you know the Kem Kem beds has a pretty enigmatic palaeo fauna. There is some literature about it, but not a whole lot. Some of it is behind a paywall and much information is pretty scattered. So I got this idea that maybe we could combine our knowledge and information to collectively get a better picture of which bone belongs to which animal, in this case, vertebrae. I know some of you have some fantastic specimens in your collections, if we combine these in this thread we might be able to see some patterns. We probably won't be able to put a genus or species name on each type, but perhaps assigning certain vertebrae to a morphotype might be possible. With that I encourage everyone that has any vertebrae from the Kem Kem beds to share photos of their specimens and post them here so we can use this thread as a sort of library as well as an ID thread that everyone can use to better ID their Kem Kem vertebrae. So please, share your photos! And it might help to number your specimens for easier reference. I will be updating this first post as new information arises with examples to make ID easier. Theropods Spinosaurids Spinosaurus aegyptiacus Spinosaurus is known for it's tall neural spines, which are pretty characteristic. Unlike Sigilmassasaurus, Spinosaurus does not have the ventral triangular rough plateau on the centra Spinosaurus mid cervical vertebra Spinosaurus dorsal, sacral and caudal vertebrae Caudal vertebrae Nearly complete tail from the neotype specimen of Spinosaurus aegyptiacus Sigilmassasaurus brevicollis Sigilmassasaurus is a Spinosaurid that might be closely related to Baryonyx and Suchomimus. It differs from Spinosaurus in that it has a ventral keel on many vertebrae and a triangular rough plateau on the bottom back end. A is Sigilmassasaurus, B is Baryonyx Sigilmassasaurus cervical vertebrae From anterior to posterior Sigilmassasaurus dorsal vertebrae Indeterminate Spinosaurid vertebrae Not a whole lot has been published yet, some bones can probably not be ID'd on genus level. Spinosaurid caudal vertebrae Anterior caudal: From LordTrilobite's collection Mid-posterior caudal: From Paleoworld-101's collection Mid-posterior caudal: From LordTrilobite's collection This caudal vertebra is less tall and more pinched in the middle of the centrum than the one from Paleoworld-101's collection. Likely due to a slightly more posterior position. Mid-posterior caudal: From LordTrilobite's collection Carcharodontosaurids Due to an old paper Sigilmassasaurus vertebrae are sometimes misidentified as Carcharodontosaurid. These vertebrae should be identified on the basis of the original description by Stromer. Two species of Carcharodontosaurids are known from the Kem Kem beds at this time. Carcharodontosaurus saharicus and Sauroniops pachytholus. Carcharodontosaurid cervical vertebrae Deltadromeus agilis Anterior (left) and mid (right) caudals better examples needed Abelisauroids Indeterminate Abelisauroid distal caudal From LordTrilobite's collection Abelisaurid dorsal vertebrae From Troodon's collection Sauropods Rebbachisaurus garasbae Not a whole lot is known about this titanosaur, as only a few bones have been found. Notice that the vertebrae are very extensively pneumaticised. Rebbachisaurus dorsal vertebrae Sauropod mid caudal vertebra. Possibly Rebbachisaurid. Unnamed Titanosaurian mid caudal vertebra Crocodilomorphs more examples needed Kemkemia This crocodile is only known by a single posterior caudal vertebra. Kemkemia caudal vertebra Turtles examples needed Pterosaurs Azhdarchids Azhdarchid (probably Alanqa) posterior fragment cervical vertebra Azhdarchid Mid cervical vertebra Sources Spinosaurids https://peerj.com/articles/1323/?utm_source=TrendMD&utm_campaign=PeerJ_TrendMD_1&utm_medium=TrendMD http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0144695 Sauropods Jeffrey A. Wilson & Ronan Allain (2015) Osteology of Rebbachisaurus garasbae Lavocat, 1954, a diplodocoid (Dinosauria, Sauropoda) from the early Late Cretaceous–aged Kem Kem beds of southeastern Morocco, Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology, 35:4, e1000701, DOI: 10.1080/02724634.2014.1000701 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/304214496_Evidence_of_a_derived_titanosaurian_Dinosauria_Sauropoda_in_the_Kem_Kem_beds_of_Morocco_with_comments_on_sauropod_paleoecology_in_the_Cretaceous_of_Africa Kemkemia sisn.pagepress.org/index.php/nhs/article/viewFile/nhs.2012.119/32 Pterosaurs https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thefossilforum.com%2Fapplications%2Fcore%2Finterface%2Ffile%2Fattachment.php%3Fid%3D432009&fname=journal.pone.0010875.PDF&pdf=true https://riviste.unimi.it/index.php/RIPS/article/view/5967
  19. Flashlight

    Kem Kem Beds Vertebra (Spinosaurid?)

    Currently working on cataloging my fossil collection as best as I can, and am uncertain on this one. I don’t doubt the authenticity of the fossil itself or stated region based on other examples, but the “Spinosaurus sp.” given by the plate it came with feels awful presumptuous, so I’ve currently settled on a sweeping “Spinosauridae” classification. Does anything about this point to something more specific, or something more vague? Can provide more/better images if needed.
  20. I recently saw a globular mosasaur tooth up for sale labelled as Globidens phosphaticus. I am conscious, however, that a number of teeth labelled as Globidens are in fact from Igdamanosaurus, Igdamanosaurus aegypticus in particular, so is this tooth actually a Globidens? Thanks in advance for any guidance Othniel
  21. rocket

    Kem Kem - Tooth: what is it?

    we have a hugh collection of vertebrate-fossils, many of them come from the KemKem-Beds in Morocco. One of this cenomanian remains is a bit strange and other than all the others. Reminds a bit to a croc, a bit to a Pliosaur. But, never seen a similar one... what do you think? Lenght is approx. 7 cm, no restaurations
  22. We have a lot of Spino-teeth in our stock, most of them are nice and "common". Some show fantastic details like fine folds and very difficil structures. I show some pics of one I did pics last days showing this structures better than all the others complete tooth has approx. 15 cm or a bit less
  23. Josh_irving

    Kem Kem Pterosaur and Fish Teeth?

    Hi all, Wondering if you could help me identify these teeth found from the Kem Kem group. The top row I believe are Pterosaur teeth (am I correct in saying that they can only be identified as Ornithocheirid indets.?) The second row, I'm not too sure. Could they be fish? Thanks in advance, Josh
  24. Came across this tooth on the internet. Although not my own interest, it does make an interesting conversation. How much of this tooth is real? It's 7,5 inches in length. Spinosaurid.
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