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Looking for unprepped or lightly prepped drotops or other big Moroccan trilobites
mattbsharks posted a topic in Member-to-Member Fossil Trades
I am looking for hopefully complete or near complete drotops, and other large Moroccan trilobites. In exchange I have lots of stuff, shark teeth from all over, ammonites from Europe etc. please message me if you’re interested -
Real moroccan trilobites?
Davidevi82 posted a topic in Is It Real? How to Recognize Fossil Fabrications
Hi all, i contacted a seller from morocco and he sent me these trilo photos. Watching fine details like eyes etc they seem real but i'm newby and i prefer to ask you. Can you also tell me the average price for that species? thank you- 27 replies
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Thoughts on this Trilobite
kirkjeremiah23 posted a topic in Is It Real? How to Recognize Fossil Fabrications
Just wanted you guys thoughts on this Denovian trilobite from Morocco. Is it authentic or does it any restoration? -
Hi! Ive just noticed that many people says different things when it comes to the time when platecarpus Lived. Many would say "84-81" million years ago, but some said it even lived till 73 million years ago. What would you consider is the correct answer?
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Hello all, Like if told in a post last year, I have to make an essay for school by the end of the year. My subject is 'the paleodiversity of the Kem Kem beds' (but in dutch ofcourse). Now I have a few questions where I can't find an answer on. There might follow more question throughout the year. - Is there any Bahariasaurus species officially recorded at the Kem Kem Beds? I didn't find any paper on them from the Kem Kem so I assume they are only use commercially. Only described in the Bahariya formation in Egypt I guess? - Does anyone know what a Spinosaurus aegyptiacus premax tooth looks like? - I made a species list with all the species I found from the Ifezouane fm. and Aoufous fm. (I don't work on the Akrabou fm.). Does it looks complete or do you know any gaps? Or are there any names that are not longer used? Dinosauria: - Deltadromeus agilis - Rebbachisaurus garasbae - Carcharodontosaurus saharicus - Sauroniops pachytholus - Spinosaurus aegyptiacus - Sigilmassasaurus brevicollis - Dromaeosauridae indet. - Titanosauridae indet. - Abelisauridae indet. Crocodyliformes: - Aegisuchus witmeri - Araripesuchus rattoides - Elosuchus cherifiensis - Hamadasuchus rebouli - Kemkemia auditorei - Laganosuchus maghrebensis - Lavocatchampsa sigogneaurusselae Testudines: - Dirqadim schaefferi - Galianemys emringeri - Galianemys whitei - Hadadachelys escuilliei - Araripemys sp. Pisces: - Neoceratodus africanus - Ceratodus humei - Onchoprisits numidus - Dentilepisosteus kemkemensis - Distobatus nutiae - Calamopleurus africanus - Obaichthys africanus - Stromerichthys aethiopicus - Oniichthys falipoui - Aidachar pankowskii - cf. Bawitius sp. - Hybodontidae indet. - Mawsonia lavocati - Asteracanthus aegyptiacus - Tribodus sp. - Lissodus sp. - Serratolamna amonensis - Cretoxyrhindidae indet. - Marckgrafia lybica - Arganodus tiguidiensis - Lepidotus pankowskii - Concavotectum moroccensis - cf. Axelrodichthys - Bartschichthys sp. - Sudania sp. - Erfoudichthys rosae - Palaeonotopterus greenwoodi Pterosauria: - Alanqa saharica - Xericeps curvirostris - Siroccopteryx moroccensis - Tapejaridae indet. - Ornithocheiridae indet. - Pteranodontidae indet. - Azhdarchidae indet. - Dsungaripteroidea indet. Other: - Oumtkoutia anae - Kababisha sp. Thanks already. Thijs
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Hi, wanted to ask for opinions about the identification of this partial jaw, offered to me as a Spinosaurus jaw (or Spinosaurid), but unsure on how to tell the difference between a spinosaurid jaw and a crocodilian jaw. Thanks.
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Sorry for my poor English. I inherited a large trilobite from Morocco. Size 22 x 34 cm approx, weight 6 kilos. Does anybody know what species it is?
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I recently purchased this item. It was described as a piece of dinosaur skull. I never trust these IDs of course, but on the other hand, I didn't know what it was. Crucially, it was affordable, so I bought it anyway. It has arrived today and is quite impressive, in its way. The question is; what is it? This is the main boney face of it. The other side is pure matrix with no shape or distinguishing features, so I didn't photograph it. Note the bone protruding from the bottom. This thing needs a LOT of prep. The bone has a strange honeycomb structure, full of large empty pits. This next bit (also seen at the bottom of the picture above) interests me, because it appears to be identical to the substance I asked for help with here: It is literally right up against the bone, on the left. MYSTERIOUS! If anybody has any ideas what this object might be, I'd love to hear them. So far I've narrowed it down to: Crocodile (that's what I associate any honeycomb style stuff with, rightly or wrongly) Dinosaur Elemental kaiju summoned to save the earth during time of strife Extremely big fish Thank you!
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Dimensions: 185mm long Location: Atlas mountains Jurassic outcrops, Morocco I'm having trouble identifying this partial fossil bone. It's only smallish piece with some significant old broken sections but it still has a pretty distinctive blade-like shape and the internal structure visible at the end breaks is interesting. My amateur impression is that it's too straight for a rib, it's asymmetric so not a chevron, so I was thinking maybe a fibula, or perhaps an ischium or scapula. Any input welcome.
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Is this a fake Moroccan crocodile? Sorry for the bad pics it's at a fossil shop I can try and go back and get better once if people think they need ones that are better.
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Trilobite from Morocco
kirkjeremiah23 posted a topic in Is It Real? How to Recognize Fossil Fabrications
Thoughts on these trilobites from Morocco found on our favorite auction site. Is there any restoration? Has any part been carved or painted? Any I do is greatly appreciated! -
Hello all, I got these two bones a couple of years ago. The biggest (first) one is 24 cm in lenght, the other one is 13 cm. I think the first one is from a crocodile? They are both repaired but not composited. I want to use them in my essay for school so I would really like to know what they are.
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Can anyone identify this for me? I would think it was a crocodile scute, except Ive never seen that shape before.
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From the album: Marine reptiles and mammals
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From the album: Marine reptiles and mammals
2 unidentified mosasaur species' anterior end of premaxillary bones. One with teeth broken off just beyond the skull, and the other has 2 remaining teeth, with the rest broken off at the level of the skull. the larger fossil was found in the phosphate mines of Khouribga, Morocco. ive since lost the information for the smaller fossil, sadly. -
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Unidentified raptor fossil, likely clavicle, from kem kem, in Taouz, Morocco middle Cretaceous 100 mya-
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A little collection of assorted mosasaur fossils from 2 different places that I got when I first started collecting. 2 different types of vertebrae, one is mosasaur, and the other is a questionable claim of mosasaur, a corprolite that was claimed to be that of a mosasaur, a tooth, & 7 rib fragments. 2 ribs have predation marks, as well as the large vertebra. The large vert has a round tooth indent on the very center. The 2nd rib down has tooth scratches along the surfaces, & 3rd rib down has a round tooth indent in the center, which is probably what caused a strip across the middle to break off. There are 2 other tooth marks on that rib as well, forming a diagonal line from above left of the center indent, breaking off a piece along the top, to below right. -
Cambropallas trilobites, a study in restoration
Aurelius posted a topic in Is It Real? How to Recognize Fossil Fabrications
I recently had the opportunity to obtain three specimens of the famous trilobite Cambropallas at a very low price. I've always wanted one of these; preferably a real one, although the fake/restored ones also interested me, if I could find one for the right price. So this was too good an opportunity to miss. Before I say anything else, I should say that I am a long way from being a trilobite expert. I only have half a dozen cheap examples in my collection, although I am interested in Moroccan fossils in general, and the repair/restoration/forgery that you often find in fossils from this country. I'll look at each of the three specimens in turn. If anybody has anything to add, or anything they wish to correct me upon, then please do! I apologise for any incorrect terminology or flat-out wrong information I may inadvertently give. Specimen A Matrix: 27cm This trilobite was complete and undamaged. At first glance, I thought the whole thing might be a cast, because it had an unreal orange hue. The photo below was taken after I had already rinsed a section near the head under the tap, to test my hypothesis that this was some form of pigment. It was, and it revealed the black surface seen towards the top. I decided to soak the whole block, and gently brush it with a toothbrush to remove all of the pigment, which came off easily. This was the result. Far from being faked, it appears to be approximately 65% original. Clearly, much of the right-hand side and the head shield was lost, presumably in a bad split. The missing pieces are constructed from an unknown substance, perhaps some kind of modelling clay (which is how I will refer to it for the sake of argument) or soft resin. It is soft when wet and can be cut away from the fossil with a sharp knife. I was interested to see that even those parts of the trilobite that are present are still covered in the modelling clay, presumably to smooth them out and improve the overall appearance - even though, in fact, it completely obscures all of the original detail. I don't doubt that virtually all of the left side of the thorax is present beneath the clay. I believe that this part of the trilobite is probably authentic: However, it may not be quite as simple as that, as the next specimen shows.- 9 replies
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Mosasaur jaws, a cautionary tale
Aurelius posted a topic in Is It Real? How to Recognize Fossil Fabrications
I took delivery of this jaw today. I bought it over the weekend, having seen it and been offered a reasonable price on it. The initial pictures I saw were of very poor quality (the one above is mine), and it looked relatively convincing. In further photos, it also looked pretty convincing. The seller, I should point out, was not an expert or commercial seller, he was someone who'd bought it a few years ago and now wanted rid of it. Some of you are probably looking at the photo above and thinking to yourselves 'that's not at all convincing, what were you thinking?', and you'd be right to think that, since all of the teeth are fake (or rather, the roots are fake and the crowns were composited in). I've been collecting these jaws for several years, and I really should have known better. Dodgy photos or not, something doesn't look right about the alignment of the teeth or the shape of the roots. I let my enthusiasm get the better of me, as a result of which I splurged money I could ill-afford on something which is mostly faked. The jaw bone is entirely real, but there's not an awful lot of jaw to speak of. That said, it wasn't very expensive and is, if nothing else, an interesting piece of ethnographic art, and far better than those dismal $25 fakes that you see everywhere. One of the things that helped convince me was the tooth on the far left, which I felt looked quite realistic: The teeth on the right are less so, with roots which bulge in every direction, which appear to end at the point where they touch the matrix, and which in one area appear to be smudged on top of the jaw bone. They aren't the worst fakes I have ever seen, but they aren't great either. Up close they appear to be the usual mix of brown-ish plaster and sand. I post this as a warning, really. If you're ever unsure, post it here before buying, if only for a sanity check. You don't necessarily need to be a newbie to make a newbie error (although it helps if, like me, you're an idiot). -
Chenanisaurus barbaricus was described from the phosphate beds of the Ouled Abdoun basin of Morocco. Specifically the Holotype was found in Sidi Chennane couche ( bed ) III and all the teeth were Premaxillary however a isolated Maxillary tooth was found at Sidi Daoui. Family: Abelisauridae No formal formation designated, ( Late Maastrichtian ca. 112 Ma) Locality: Ouled Abdoun Basin, Couche III at Sidi Chennane Premaxillary Teeth: Tooth 1) CBR: .69, CHR: 2.14 Tooth 2) CBR: .76, CHR: 2.13 Mesial Density : 8.5 per 5 mm at tip and midline Mesial Density : 12 per 5 mm at base Distal Density : 8 per 5 mm at tip and midline Distal Density : 13 per 5 mm at base Denticles are Chisel shaped Carinae on both edges extend to the base Cross-section at base D shaped Longrich, N.R.; Pereda-Suberbiola, X.; Jalil, N.-E.; Khaldoune, F.; Jourani, E. (2017). "An abelisaurid from the latest Cretaceous (late Maastrichtian) of Morocco, North Africa". Cretaceous Research. doi:10.1016/j.cretres.2017.03.021 Lateral Teeth: CBR: ?, CHR: ? Mesial Density : 2 mm at tip and midline Mesial Density : higher at base Distal Density : 2 mm at tip and midline Distal Density : higher at base Denticles are Chisel shaped Carinae on both edges extend to the base Lateral Teeth compressed, blade like Mesial edge is strongly recurved Distal edge is straight Buffetaut, E., Escuillié, F., Pohl, B., 2005, "First theropod dinosaur from the Maastrichtian phosphates of Morocco", Kaupia 14: 3-8 Example of a couple in my collection
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Red Flags with Kem Kem Material
Troodon posted a topic in Is It Real? How to Recognize Fossil Fabrications
This week's red flags This bone is being sold as a neural spine of a reptile or dinosaur. It's actually a pretty complete Chevron and could be dinosaurian. Needs lots of prepping to clean it up. Lots of Dromaeosaur raptor teeth being sold. All are either Abelisaurid indet or juvie Carcharodontosaurid Lots of caudal Vertebrae being sold as Spinosaurus or Carcharodontosaurus, most are Crocodyliforms, unknown or other Dino so post here before you buy Lots of rare phalanx toe bones from Dinosaurs or reptiles being sold this week. Most are Reptlian, Croc or turtle.- 2 replies
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