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I’m new to hunting so really have no idea other than possibly coprolite. I found this in the peace river near wauchula.
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I am looking for help identifying this fossil I found in the Peace River in Florida. Our guide thought it might be an alligator claw core (he was uncertain) but the shape or curve of it just isn’t right. The best I could find online is a camel canine. There is enamel and it looks like the tip broke off. What I am assuming is the root is very “wavy” and textured.
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Today, I went to the Peace River with frequent hunting partner Steve and , as a treat, my son Jack. My son is at Florida's Atlantic coast for another 4 days and we scheduled today to meet at the Peace River. This is only the 7th time we have hunted together and usually we find interesting and impressive fossils. Beyond the numerous small shark teeth that are available in many sections of the Peace River, the 3 of us found few other species. All of us found a couple of small megs in the 36 to 40 mm range. That was pleasant.. Here was my set of interesting finds. Megs, Dugong, Stingray, Seashells, Dolphin bulla. This was just icing on the cake...My birthday is Tomorrow. Got to celebrate with my son in the sunshine hunting fossils. How sweet it is...
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A day with interesting finds. The water level has dropped from Friday, but the current is faster. Still Pea Soup. The Peace river is noted for being a mix of Miocene to Modern...on some days more then others. Out primary shark tooth finds were Hemipristis and G. mayumbrensis, both Miocene species. Have found Dugong verts, Rhino teeth fragments, small horse fragments, but also these... A silicified shell.. I frequently guess wrong... Oyster ? Thi 2nd set of photos is the UF MNH Ostrea_compressirostra-UF120412, a much larger Pliocene shell. Also found what is likely a deer tine. Look at those bite marks...must have been hungry. Finally, a fossil that looks like an Equus Navicular,, but slightly different. Note the fine grained detail.. Did not face much water erosion... Enjoy, Jack
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Usually when I hunt, I stay in the same location as long as I am finding enough to justify my efforts. There were lots of larger rocks and digging was strenuous. After 2 hours, I started "prospecting" downstream looking for easier and more productive places to dig, About the 3rd place I tried, BINGO.. I was finding some almost perfect small Hemis and Tigers..easy on the eyes. Then some interesting ear bones showed up.. The 1st could be horse although it has some extra features. The 2nd is almost certainly Dolphin. Not sure if it is broken or not. Then a number of fossils , I could use help on.... A tiny 20mm black fish with curious scales... Broken Echinoids A mud rock with some Boytriodal on it.... Daniel, can to ID the fauna from its tooth enamel.. This 30 mm enamel is new to me.. There were lots of flakes but no artifacts.. meaning that this was not a manufacturing site, just a source of materials, silicified barnacles, shell, urchin spines, sections of dugong rib etc. All in all, just the type of place that could keep a fossil hunter on the edge of anticipation... Enjoy. Jack
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Went out yesterday.. Peace river is still the color of Pea Soup, and is at least a foot higher. I had some finds that I did not recognize, and decided to break these 2 out.. On Monday, partner tossed me a broken bone.I can find no break except leading down from 1st and 2nd photos. My partner called it a Dugong Vert process. I have searched both Dugong and Manatee Vertebrae without finding a match. We returned to this location yesterday. I found another bone, which my partner referred to as a "Topknot" for a Dugong Vertebra. Comparative bone is from the UFMNH website. Note that nothing quite matched the May 22nd find.. Thanks for the help , Jack
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Went out yesterday for an unusual weekend trip.. I had a week long trip to Northeast Florida, and thus missed some of this precious hunting time, before the summer storms arrive and fill the river to its banks. Since my hunting partner had missed hunting for the week, he wanted to go out yesterday and tomorrow. Just being accommodating plus I love being in the river. Here are my finds for the day, sorting out the vast majority of small shark teeth. I showed the Mastodon and small Meg in an earlier post, so here I plan to focus on the rest... I was picking up a lot of broken teeth and bone and decided to keep more than I usually do. SO if I saw enamel , I kept it . The with the bone I found a piece of fossilized wood Lower left, and I thought about its texture compared to bone (ribs). Then I started keeping any fossil with "strange" texture.... A close up of the wood... Why is this wood instead of bone, I asked myself... and started picking out random bones for comparison purposes. Another interesting find...was some mud_rock with a little silicified layer attached...It was not until I was taking photos that I noted the blue druzy orbs... nice surprise Here is one I almost tossed.... just too small and fragmented. I do not know enough about fish jaws because they are very hard to find... but I did find one that I had identified. They looked to be very similar.. I had found a tooth for the 2021 Jaw, Then we identified the 2021 jaw as Alligator gar, and compared to this jaw from Nate, SO I am wondering if this new find is also Alligator gar.. A bit small... Note the enamel on the left side of the photo... There are lots of other broken fossils in the group shot that triggered my curiosity and demonstrates the diversity of fossils in the Peace River... Let me know if you would like to discuss / comment on any....
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Another find from the Peace River last week that I have been trying to identify and could use some help with. When I first pulled this up out of the water I thought of some kind of broken limb bone. I then noticed the groove and socket that made it look like a piece of a jaw. I tried searches for alligator and various land mammals and ruled out most of what I found. The search did point me toward this being a maxilla, the upper jaw. More searching led me to a picture of a dolphin skull that looked to support the maxilla idea but appeared a bit too small. So, input from the group would be appreciated. Measurements: 7 1/4" x 1 1/8" x 2 7/8" or 175mm x 26mm x 88mm My search led to this example of a Dolphin skull with what I think drives the idea that this is a maxilla. The labeled areas that are underlined seem to correspond to the areas I have numbered on my specimen shown below So, while I am leaning toward this being a maxilla I am wondering, if it is, could it be dolphin or something similar?
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I am spending a week in Florida with my son in Ormond by the sea. It is attempt to get some time to just relax, with little to do. On Friday, I went hunting for fossils. We hit two locations, one downstream , one upstream. Went downstream first...fewer small shark teeth than normal, a few large tigers, armadillo osteoderm, a antler stub, a couple of worked flakes, apple snail, fishing weight, turtle foot pads and 4 plus plates of a Capybara. I like to hunt in deep water because it helps my back. A significantly large gator was taking too much interest and so we left. The Capybara tooth So, we went to the Upstream location (at the end of the day we wanted a downstream ride). A few white rooted teeth from the Peace River... I am wondering if these are dated to the phosphate mines where other white rooted teeth are found.. I like the colors here, Love the Tilly bone, IF only I could date a layer from what we found.... There was a post about Dugong in Washington State, but it could not be... no dugong in Washington, but this one seems similar, and it is dugong.Provenance counts.. do not lose it.. So , you are asking Where is the fossils to be IDed ? I am willing to settle for... Is it rock?, Is it bone ?
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I need some help with this little guy I found in the Peace River (FL). I have the darnedest time with ear bones - they all look alike to me. Has anyone seen one like this before? Is it marine or land critter? It seems well mineralized and measures about 30mm x 20mm. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Small Partial Jawbone with Remnant Dentition, Peace River, FL
Bone Daddy posted a topic in Fossil ID
I found this little piece of jawbone that has some curvature to it that initially caught my eye and upon closer examination it appears to have a tooth root in one of the sockets. My first guess is cetacean of some kind. Is that right, or am I way off? I'm not sure if it's marine or not. Thanks in advance!
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I posted a thread discussing finding barnacles and seashells in the Peace River on Monday. I did have a few other finds and decided to post these separately... 1st -- a very small tooth that looks like deer but I do not think it is, and if it is not deer and in the Peace river it is very rare. Back in February, @Harry Pristis identified another small tooth I had found that was from a Pliocene deer, Eocolieus gentryorum... and it looks very similar, just a little smaller, but I need one more photo, I do not think this is Deer, I think it is Llama, and the only llama I can think of at this size is Hemiauchenia gracilis... Let's see what Harry says... 2nd up is a pretty small Dolphin tooth... I was digging in pea gravel,, small gravel generally leads to small fossils. A marine mammal periotic. Usually these are 30 mm, not 20 . I will be curious what @Boesse identifies it as.... When not hunting, I have been working most of the days, cleaning up and cleaning out my collection... NOT ENOUGH ROOM... While sorting the ones to keep, I found this in a ziplok bag from years ago.. It is about the same size and looks a little similar but did not come from the Peace River.. curious that I should come across these two 24 hours apart...
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I know that I went hunting yesterday. My neck and back muscles are screaming at me. We go to places we have visited before... In this case, some sort of coral reef or shell bed that was laid down , most likely in the Pliocene. Steve, who worked in the Phosphate mines said that there were 3 layers of shell beds in Bone Valley mines where he worked. Land mammal remains between the shell layers. In some locations, the Peace River has brought those layers close to the surface. I call this location wonderland. When ever I go there ... I wonder.. I wonder what layer I am finding.. Pliocene ? Miocene, whatever the 1st layer is... I wonder what process created what I see.... I went back in TFF to find that I have not revisited this location in more than 2 years. Back to the yesterday, A Barnacle.... This is solid rock... or blended silica with sand , mud , shell ..I wonder if the Barnacle "shell" filled with sand or mud and the silica transformed the whole thing to rock, sand mud , everything.. and I always wonder about the process details... Shells..... ..I wonder if we can identify the shells because that might tells us if there were Pliocene or Miocene.... I wonder about the process details... This is not hard fossilized rock like the barnacle... This is like mud rock,, that would break or crumble pretty easily So the shells existed on the bottom of the ocean, the ocean receded, Peace River brings in fresh water, somehow it is making mud-rock (which is common in many forms)... the shell sticks to the mud rock, then the silicification comes along changing the shells ,not the mud-rock., and the whole thing gets worn down until I pick it up.... Shell # 1 2nd Shell ..The rock weighs 40-50 pounds... a heavy item on the trip back in my kayak..Is this whole bivalve there ? Was this one transformed to Silica.... I wonder ... I also find botryoidal chalcedony, some bigger... some smaller. I think this formed in a "cave" in a echinoid sand dollar... Finally for those who appreciate more traditional Florida fossils, I found some of these also. Really like this tooth, it exihibits serrations with feeding damage and those CUSPS !!!... I wonder if if cusps on Megs is only true of Pliocene Megs. I am sad to say that it looks like the chipped the root on recovery. I guess what it comes down to is I am a wondering kind of guy....Enjoy
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This one has to be a coral or sponge, right? Big weird thing. Peace River, FL.
Bone Daddy posted a topic in Fossil ID
This oddball looks like a sponge, coral, tubeworm, or something. I think. Maybe. Texture on the rounded parts is suggestive of sponge. I found it in the Peace River, Florida. I've never seen another one like it. Does anyone know what it is? Thanks in advance! MikeG
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Here are some small weirdos I have found in my sifter in the Peace River. I tried using Google Image Search to find something similar, but no luck on this scale. They are covered in little protuberances. Are they fossil or geological? Shape suggests little corals or something. Thanks!
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Here some oddballs I found in the Peace River, FL. These were found on different trips in different spots. Their shape suggests some kind of coral or tube worm. But I can't find anything identifiable that looks like it. Has anyone else seen these in the Peace, or what are they? Any help would be appreciated.
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Partial Tooth? Is it enough to be identified? Peace River, FL.
Bone Daddy posted a topic in Fossil ID
I found this in the Peace River and I think it is a partial tooth. I am not sure. It appears to have black "enamel", but it's broken and it might just be a suggestive shape of detritus. Does this look like something specific? It looks like a mammal tooth to me. Thanks in advance!
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So went out with @Done Drillin yesterday to a spot on the Peace, near to where I had last found some tiny C. Hastalis and a single tiny Great White tooth recently, hoping for a larger Hastalis, or Great White, or even a Meg. Instead I walked away with an even better find! My first ever Cow Shark (Notorynchus, I believe?) - made even better by the fact that this past Monday I had commented on @Rowboater’s post saying how much I’d love to have one… and this one is only missing a bit of its root, too! @Done Drillin Also found one actually too. For some of my other finds: More tiny Hastalis: Tigers, a big Hemi lower, and 2 pathological Carcharhinus teeth: Sand Tigers, including one with a double cusp on one side: A bunch of pretty Carcharhinus teeth: And finally, 2 almost complete sand dollars, and 2 Glyptodon osteoderms, including one which is 1.5” thick, far thicker than any of my others:
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Usually, I go with 2 other fossil hunters. One was sick , so just the two today. well, just 2 humans. We have a gator at this location, not unusual on the Peace. I (and most people) tend to over estimate the size of gators, but he/she is big enough to cause concern. I normally take an 8 foot surveyors pole to the river, so that I can stake out my kayak where ever I dig. It has a steel point and could be used for other purposes. On this day, I also chose to strap a 6 inch titanium dive knife to my right leg. Make me feel better, like I'm prepared for eventualities. Today we arrived at 7:30 am in the pouring rain. Rain does not make all that much difference. After all, we are hunting in a river, we get wet even if it does not rain. The forecast accurately predicted it would stop at 10 am. Arrived home late. and do not have time to sort and photo all my finds, but I selected 3 For my fossil Q&A. A Meg... this was my only one close to whole... I like cusps. Also feeding damage , I think, on the tip. It is a little hard to tell, but this meg (root tip to tip and slant length are both 10.5 mm).. had a brown root , green blade with a yellow band on the blade closest to the root. The Peace is a black water river. Q1. What does that tell you about this Meg? Next up ... a 19.5 mm canine. I think it is likely raccoon.. The Peace is a black water river. Q2) Can I tell the difference between a fossilized canine form 20000 years ago , or a modern one that has been in the river for the last year ? A 3rd find that really made me want to ask questions... Mostly because I do not know much about fossilized wood I find in the river. Q3. The Peace is a black water river. Why is this fossil not black. Q4. I think I have found this pattern previously. It might be a Liana vine. @Harry Pristis has a GREAT picture and might know.... What ever it is, I only find small pieces... Is it more likely to be broken pre_fossilization or post_fossilization into these smaller chunks ? Q5 is about the more likely process. Lots of wood falls into the river and stays there. Some of that wood rots but things like ceder and cypress do not. Does a likely process involve a vine falling into the water, settling to the bottom, covered by sand and mud, and having heavily mineralized water seep thru for 10000 years? or something else ? All comments appreciated, Jack
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So was our last weekend a couple times, and while I didn’t find anything truly spectacular, I did find some fossils I wanted to share! So starting off with some tiny C. Hastalis and my second ever (And equally tiny!) Great White teeth, all of which are in amazing shape: Some nice Carcharhinus, sand tigers, and a nice tiger: Pathos - 3 of em. Double-tipped Bull, bent/warped blade lower Carcharhinus, and… whatever the 3rd one is ( @Al Dente, @hemipristis - either of you have any ideas?): This third one is quite interesting - the blade seems to come out from the right of the nutrient groove, it’s got a cusp on one side, and the blade is all warped. And finally a nice Holmesina osteoderm and an Equus M3:
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Hello all! Thanks to you guys I am posting less in the ID forum. This one has me stumped. I'm sure it will be easy for you. I found it near our property in Nocatee this weekend. Side question how big do hemi teeth get? What would be considered a "big" one? Thanks again!
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Another great day in the sunshine with friends. Kayaking in a slow current, finding chest deep water, sun shining, a few drops of rain. The deep water is aerobic exercise for me, really helps my back both during and after. We were in 2 locations. One was chest deep , finding mostly small shark teeth. I think there are a couple of Tiger shark parasymphyseals/symphyseals there, some nice Hemis/Tigers...and one of my friends found the beat_up Horse tooth and asked if I thought it was pre_Equus. I said I was not sure but I would give someone on TFF an opportunity to answer. @Meganeura Have you looked at enough fossettes and plications to hazard a guess on Equus or not? Slight variation on angle for 2nd photo We hunting the morning at the 1st spot, and after eating lunch, I headed downstream to a place we had hunted extensively and friends avoided because it was "hunted" out. But I had some great memories there of black enamel, black rooted megs, and I could bask in the memories hunting old locations... My 1st sieve had the 2.5 inch Meg !!! Nothing better than Luck. There was a top layer of 4-6 inches of gravel.. I quickly picked up a piece of fossilized, a large dolphin vert, the process of a dugong Vert to join the Meg. The detail on all of these is excellent, meaning no water erosion for a couple of million years. Tells me a lot about where they came from.....A photo of the Meg taken on the river... I am trying to identify that toe bone or hoof core.....it only has 3 sides to photo.... 1st photo has an articulation, last photo is concave, middle photo convex. @PODIGGER Jim, I am hoping that you can help me here. Seems like you see a lot of bones... Which way is down ? Which way is up? Thanks Jack
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Need some help with these, but I think I know the answer already
Bone Daddy posted a topic in Fossil ID
I had two oddballs here. I don't think either can be authoritatively identified due to their incomplete nature and my chronically-subpar photos. But, I figured if anyone could ID them, that person is in this forum somewhere. So please have a look and let me know what you think. One appears to be part of a skull and the other is a tiny piece of jawbone. I thought the jaw was a shark tooth at first and then I noticed the teeth sockets. Maybe it's something small like a rat or pocket gopher? Any help would be appreciated.
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I found this big bone chunk, but I am afraid it may lack sufficient diagnostic features to identify it. I thought I would let the forum look at it before I throw it into my garden. Any ideas about what this might be? It looks like a partial "end" piece of a larger bone. Judging from the size, the critter had to be pretty big. Any help would be appreciated.
