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  1. Ellie.ridgeway

    Peace River Fossil ID

    Hi! I recently found a lot of various items in Peace River in Florida. There are a few of them that I wanted to find help with, so I attached them below and numbered each of them so the pictures would be less confusing. I wasn’t sure if this would be easier than creating separate threads, but if it would be better to split them up I can do so. The first specimen is the main item I would like help identifying. I believe it’s a body of vertebrae but I was hoping to find out what animal it could be from. If there are too many in one, I am content in receiving the identification for the first item alone. All measurements are in centimeters but inches is on the bottom of the ruler. I’m very new to all of this so your help and kindness is greatly appreciated!
  2. Michael1

    Tooth ID

    I found this tooth in the peace river it seems to just be the Crown since the majority of the root is broken off. Wondering if anyone knows what it is. Looks like some type of cetacean tooth, but im hoping for mammal. If anyone needs additional photos please just ask. Thanks
  3. Shellseeker

    Two teeth 100% Enamel

    Went Hunting today , 3rd time in 5 days. I am aching but heading North and my next opportunity will be April 11th. Clear water, lots of gravel, some fossils... Got a couple of more Turtle "Peace Signs", but 2 of these finds are excellent: No roots, no dentin, no cementum... just enamel... @Balance Well Jp, you know something about horses. What can you tell me about the horse that owned this tooth? and here is a 2nd tooth, same thing No roots, No dentin, No Cementum.... just enamel. and found in my 2nd last sieve.. I love late finds... keeping me digging. and this is a Big tooth.... Note that the chewing surface is barely touched and look at the detail that remains... You never see this kind of detail except when the animal died shortly after the tooth emerged.. I am not sure this one is deciduous but it is clearly unusual and close to perfect... Enjoy.
  4. KatRansom-Strong

    Skull ID

    We found this skull in the Peace River in south central FL. Can anyone help to ID? Many of the people I was with who are FL natives, and frequent fossil hunters, seemed to believe it is alligator. But I’m not convinced. It doesn’t resemble any of the crocodilia species. It lacks all teeth (and tooth cavities) and the overall shape is completely different. Based on the fused vertebrae at the base of the skull and the dental formation, I would have suggested either a bird or, more likely, of a marine species? On a not so serious note, I also would have been more inclined to believe it was of Jar Jar Binx. 😅
  5. Shellseeker

    Easter 2024

    Out yesterday hunting in an area that has taken a lot of hunting pressure.. Why? because it is easier to get there which is why there has been hunting pressure. During the day a couple of groups came by. The 1st question by the first group was "Did we know that there were Alligators sometimes spotted in this section of the river?". The 1st question by the 2nd group was " Were we afraid of the Alligators?" I recognized that they were trying to warn us and just smiled. There is a movie in which Anthony Hopkins asks a question " Why is the rabbit unafraid ?" Here were my finds of the day. We recently had the water depth go down so the bottom of the river is more accessible. Still we moved 2-3 times before finding some gravel that contains fossils. The depth there was about 5 feet, slightly above my chest. As @Balance said in a recent post, I believe in hunting the deep spots. Not a lot for digging 5 or 6 hours, but more than enough to satisfy me. The ones I know... 1) Holmesina osteoderms.. I like finding these , especially when in good shape. Here is an artist rendition of what Holmesina looked like. The largest ones weighed 500-600 pounds. 2) Fish Articular ... I would not have recognized this , except 2 weeks ago I found what I thought was an ear bone , but turned out to be a fish Articular... Looking at the picture, I would guess this articular was from the right side jaw... 3) Turtle Osteoderm... We used to call these the "Peace Sign" . I guess vendors still do and sell on the Internet under that name... No Genus, no species, just turtle. They also do not identify the specific location in the carapace. I am hopeful that @Plantguy or @digit might have some insights here. 4) Barnacle. I just saw an identification by @Al Dente on Goose barnacle. I wonder if this is also a goose barnacle 60 miles from Salt water. 5) Deer tines.. I found these 2 in the same sieve and for a while was thinking that might be my best find of the day... I have found numerous deer tines, mostly they look like the top one which I think is from a yearling. What is it with the bumps on the 2nd tine ? Is this just a tip broken off a much fuller rack of an adult male ? OR Does it indicate a different species of deer ? or can these bumps appear on a yearling tine ? 6th) My find of the day Maybe 4-5 years ago , I became interested in the Symphyseals of Sharks and attempted to find photos of symphyseals of sharks I might find in Florida !!. In my searches, I ran across this photo from Fossilguy.. Correction: Hemipristis does not have Symphyseals, just Parasymphyseals It turned out that I has lots of those Parasymphyseals from the lower jaw and (maybe) ?? a very few broken and worn versions of the Parasymphyseals from the upper jaw. Nothing improved over the last 5 years, On Easter Sunday, I got a present !!!!. This one will get its own Riker... just so I do not lose it... I had a great day... Lots of exercise, lots of sunshine with a couple of friends, excellent finds. I hope you had a nice day also. Jack
  6. Michael1

    Peace river claw?

    I found these two teeth in a creek near the peace river pretty close to eachother. Not really sure what they are was hoping someone could ID them. They are listed as find 1 and 2 respectively.
  7. Shellseeker

    Small Claw Core

    Out hunting today, not many finds but a claw core is always exciting, even a small one. Pictures of the find. That last photo dried... I would have Identified this as Dasypus Bellus if only the last two photos did not show a different proximal shape.. Similar size/shape but very different attachment point. Could it be a different Armadillo ?? Working on it tomorrow.
  8. Shellseeker

    Peace River 03/21/2024

    Out hunting yesterday, Sun shining with friends and my friends were finding lots more than I.. it happens. However, I always find somethings interesting. An Equus tooth showing traverse HSBs Posterior end of a dolphin jaw Some Galeocerdo mayumbensis, which I guess ages the site as Miocene... and just before it fell thru my sieve.. captured this Bull ? or Dusky tooth... So, now for the Fossil ID requests.. First, a very small Osteoderm... I found at least 2 Holmesina osteoderms in the group photo above, but this one seems to me not to be armadillo. This is about an inch !!! but screams Glyptodont to me.. I would like to hear from those who have found glyptodon osteoderms, what they think about this one. If consensus is Glyptodont, where on the carapace does this small osteoderm appear ? and the 2nd ID request.. Many know that I like to find ear bones, periotics, petrosals, bulla, whatever.. Is the white blob on the left edge of the photo an ear bone or just a blob of mud concretion... I will provide some additional photos to help evaluation. To me, it seems like skull material around a periotic/petrosal... I was thinking 1/2 of a dugong periotic, but I imagine that @Harry Pristis or @Plantguy have actually found those and may be able to bring some light on the topic.
  9. Shellseeker

    Hunting Peace River 03/26/2024

    I usually attempt this mixture of Trip report (finds) and a couple of Fossil_id. Sunday I was out hunting the 1st time with Jp @Balance, Today with 2 Octogenarians that have been hunting partners for over 10 years, Just that fact made the days different... Truly a unique mixture of finds... Knowns... A couple of very nifty Alligator Osteoderms.. Neither seems broken in any way.... A partial silicified seashell... I love these ... It might be Fulguropsis spiratuma, from Florida's Pliocene. Let's see if @MikeR has a suggestion... An Armadillo Osteoderm... A Tympanic Bulla that I think I recognize ... s Bobby says an Oceanic Dolphin, something like Delphinus or Stenella. Note that silica is taking hold here also 1/2 a Tapir tooth , some Hemipristis and a few tigers. Then what seems to be a bullet... One of my hunting companions thinks it is old.. really old ... like possibly the Seminole wars.. That would be exciting.. It is certainly nondescript but seems to be made of lead.. Any insight appreciated. Finally, a fossil tusk to Identify. Think found by my other hunting companion.
  10. Michael1

    Peace river fossil IDS

    Found these two fossils while hunting the peace river wondering if anyone could ID them? If anyone needs additional photos please ask.
  11. Shellseeker

    Mostly Bones

    I was out hunting yesterday on the Peace River. I returned to a spot I had hunted last Thursday, Feb 28th, It rained over the weekend. Many /most locations were too deep to dig. I LIKE deep water because it is aerobic exercise for my lower back but I prefer not to be holding my breadth as I did. I did not find a large volume of fossils, many were bones, especially Dugong ribs which I tossed back. Small Shark teeth, Turtle Osteoderms, an Alligator Osteoderms, Deer tine, Broken Equus tooth, One question is that Bovid tooth... It is really nice... I would certainly like it to be Bison.. I like this Medial Phalanx... I do not think it is Horse, Might be Tapir... It is definitely small I found a Carpal that is smaller than I am used to finding for Camelids. I may indeed check the Tapir carpals. Same thing with this Ear Bone, too small to be Equus but similar to Equus . Both Horse and Tapir are Perissodactyla. I have never identified a Tapir ear bone. Then there were more unusual bones... unusual in the sense that I have no clue.. This bone has articular facets...like a carpal or tarpal, but the following 2 Photos of the same bone does not look like any carpal I have seen.. Time for me to do a lot of looking All assistance and suggestions gratefully appreciated... Jack
  12. Michael1

    Florida porpoise teeth ID

    These are some dophin like teeth ive found and just wondering if anyone of them was something different like a bear or something completely different? All of these teeth except one were found in florida. Most of them in the peace river one of them in gainesville and the other in georgia. The second to last photo was the one from gainesville and the last photo is the one from georgia.
  13. A great day in the sunshine. Few finds but all interesting... Abertella dengleri echinoid, @Sacha Transformed to Silica, I am hopeful of finding a whole one.. Pachyarmatherium leiseyi... these are rare and Tiny, found my 1st one in 2014. Pristis lathami Rostral tooth... A Tortoise footpad, more likely than Glyptodon tail osteoderm A piece of pretty Bark Ivory A Steinkern... of a Gastropod that I do not know the name... The silicified core of a different gastropod.... Really a fun day... finding many favorites... AND An unknown Caudal Vertebra to identify. This should be identifiable.. How many of the Peace River fauna have tail vertebrae this wide. I believe it not to be Marine Mammal, .. I am hopeful another TFF member Identifies this before I track it down in a more difficult way...
  14. Shellseeker

    Carpals

    Was out hunting yesterday, previous post https://www.thefossilforum.com/topic/139901-interesting-finds-peace-river-02282024/ I did not have time last night to go thru everything , and I found 2 Carpals, one known and other needs identification... The known is a camelid (Palaeolama or Hemiauchenia) Carpal , specifically a Scaphoid.. I know because I have found this carpal previously. In the very next sieve , another carpal, but this one I did not recognize. To some extant, it resembles an Equus Magnum, but definitely is not.... It is very high quality, much better than the Scaphoid, but I have checked with camelid Magnum and it seems very different... So with that, here is a Carpal from the Peace River for Identification. This is usually a sweet spot for @Harry Pristis
  15. MuckyBottles

    Always a crier..

    Peace river is kind of high 🤣..next best thing is to hit the tribs.. it breaks my heart when you think you found a real nice hemi, but.. turns into a broken heart..a day out is still better than home.
  16. Shellseeker

    Raptor Claw

    Peace River find. I think it is a Raptor claw. Would appreciate any other possibilities. Some questions: Can we tell left or right foot ? Which digit (Obviously not hooked)? What Raptor? and finally.. Is it modern? @Auspex
  17. Michael1

    Florida mammal ID

    Found this tooth on my last trip in a creek super small find but still curious on what it is. Found it near the peace river. My thoughts are that its mammal maybe tapir or deer.
  18. Balance

    Peace River tooth?

    Working on a trip report from the past trip and I have a couple mysteries… Any leads or suggestions welcome. It’s probably my turn for “it’s a rock “. 😂 Thanks, Jp Looked like a cusp or crown of some kind of tooth. Has an outer, very thin surface layer with hairline cracks in it. Hourglass shaped defined “top”. daytime natural light Toadstool mud rock or fused bones? Already have a reputable vote for mud rock but I’m not ready to accept the truth. 😊 Daytime natural light
  19. Shellseeker

    Peace River, 2/11/24

    Had a great day hunting Friday and decided to hunt the Peace River before the Super bowl yesterday with my friend Steve. I love grabbing a shovel and sieve and just walk into the River. Perfect depth, about 2 inches above my waist. I had another good day as you check my finds below. Steve had a great day! In his 1st sieve, 3 shovel of gravel he found one of those pointy rocks we hear about, followed by a copper button, and then a Meg. He found a Giant Tortoise hoof core and a Tail Buckler. I did not get photos of the rest, but at the end he found a small jaw with 2 teeth I did not recognize. Here are my prizes.. A few flecks of Druzy scattered here and there... A miniture Armadillo Osteoderm.. This is the smallest I have ever seen and look at the patina... I love this one... Followed by a real rarity for me.... an Armadillo front tooth... There is a lot of variety. Here is some of it. I hope that @Harry Pristis can provide an ID on this small premolar.. The size would indicate a small animal. To me, there are always surprises in hunting the Peace.
  20. 2 different mouthplates location: Peace river, Florida, USA Era:Mioceen My question to the field Are the plates from the same fishes? Greetings from the Netherlands Vincent
  21. Hello, All 🙂 Found this sitting on the riverbed while crossing a shallow section a month ago or so. Same spot I found a bovid cervical vert trip Before. Tossed it in the boat as a modern cow thoracic to identify “which one”. Saved it for a day when the temps cold and the water is up. That’s today, only problem is I can’t find a vertebra with a fork in it to save my life. Cow, horse, camel , oxen… no forked thoracic. Can bovids of different breeds have different vertebrae characteristics? Is this not a thoracic vert? Where too next?? its 7.5” long and 3” wide with the broken piece added back into the measurement. That’s 187mm ish long… Peace River , Florida modern thru Miocene Thanks for any insight or suggestions. Appreciate the feedback Jp
  22. I’ve been round and around with this one. Even messaged UF’s invertebrate paleontologist but no word, yet. Probably should have thought about colleges on breaks… Any suggestions?? Found: Peace River , Florida , US mixed with other positively identified Miocene echinoids, shell hashes and botryoidal covered shells and limestone composite rocks. Drusy coverings on most everything in this group. Including this fossil. Size: 35mm narrowest 45-50mm widest. Depending on if you stop at the fine rings or the outer flat perimeter. Could this be a jellyfish? Can others see the symmetry and outer rings? Thanks and fingers crossed! Jp Here are photos. Fossil in question- fossil side with close up in upper panels. Flip/bottom side in lower. It lightens when dry as shown in upper left. Sprayed with denatured alcohol to show the color when wet in the upper right. Close up details of the four quadrants of the oval. Drusy frost.
  23. Shellseeker

    EQUUS Identifications

    I was out hunting yesterday. One of my frequent finds in the Peace River is horse teeth , usually Equus .sp. I found one yesterday. Typical Equus upper molar. EquusExample#1 I am very interested in horse fossil teeth but have focused on pre-Equus. To tell the truth I just do not know a lot or can tell differences between Equus variations like Equus Simplicidens or Equus Complicatus, etc but I am about to learn!! My education should focus on Florida because that is what I tend to find, but I am interested in but I am interested in any publications that can effectively differentiate Equus .sp. I will start by searching TFF and checking out Harry's gallary. A week ago a hunting friend gave me a box of horse teeth he had found all of which he believed to be Equus. Actually he wants the teeth back . I am just doing the identification & analysis. Lots of teeth!!!! My 1st separation was 1) large uppers 2) lowers, 3) not fully erupted 4) m3 lowers, 5) M3 uppers, and a few odd ones. While many teeth are worn or chipped, there are some fantastic teeth like this one below. EquusExample#2 Note what I refer to as the "squiggles". I generally have used these to differentiate pre-Equus horse species and I am wondering what variations I might see in equus.
  24. Balance

    Bone or rock?

    Hello and hope everyone is having a great day. Going through the “I’ll look that stuff up later” bin and wanted to follow up on this piece. Not expecting any ID. Would just like to know: if this is in fact bone or rock? If bone, which I’m thinking it is, why has this specimen mineralized so much more completely that the other bones I find in the river. The second photo has this specimen next to a typical tannin stained bone from the river. (The carpal, tarsal, (short) long bone or whatever it is, as the example of river bone is my mystery to solve for the week so don’t give that one away if you know it ) Jp
  25. Found this hastalis shark tooth in a florida creek was just wanting to share, but also wanting to ask whats the biggest lesser great white tooth people have found or personal found. Ive only been fossil hunting for two years but this is my personal best hastalis tooth its about 2.7 inches.
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