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  1. Too lazy to translate it myself, I just put the finished pdf through the google translator : Fossilien_2023_21052023_E.pdf Some, but not all, formating is lost, though. And its just one page of text besides three pages of pics. No worries about the detailed site map, as we already know, nobody cares about rudists . Here is the link to the original, German version, for our German speaking members : Fossilien_2023_21052023 (pdf, 3.4 MB, personal homepage) Here are the original pics: Have fun ! Franz Bernhard
  2. FranzBernhard

    Plant fossil - please help

    Hello, I have found this plant fossil today in the shoulder of a forest road (Hasibach, Geistthal, Styria, Austria). Its freshly split, last pic is photographed under water. Its from the Campanian Afling-Formation, Gosau-Group of Kainach. Any hint to ID is highly welcome! Note: I can not see any venation with a hand lens. I have also the counterpiece, but its worse. Thank you very much for your help! Franz Bernhard
  3. Hello, again a day-off with hiking, mushrooms and some fossils . Its the same area as about 3 months ago, Upper Cretaceous Kainach Gosau, Afling-formation: A field day with blueberries, some mushrooms and - fossils! - Fossil Hunting Trips - The Fossil Forum (With geological map) Same hike, same fossil zone, but different mushrooms. Because now its time for Boletus edulis! Catch the Boletus! First an easy one: Second not so easy: Total yield of the day: The last four weeks, each Sunday or Saturday, I not only carried home some fossils, but also a good amount of Boletus, a total of about 30 in 4 trips. Note: These trips are not specifically designed for mushroom hunting. Just hiking, prospecting and fossiling at known sites. I just stumble over them, more or less, mostly on or near older tractor trails, as can be seen in the pics above. Can´t get enough of the lovely landscape. The area is about 900 m asl, the mountains in the background are about 2000 m asl. Fossils? Of course! Did a little detailed prospecting in the forest above the fossil outcrops at the forest road below and found this Vaccinites. Incomplete, but quite educative: As found: "Good" side: From above, with two pillars pillars, not good pic: Already very happy with this find, I scratched a little bit with a screwdriver at site 63 (see link above) and found a few more fossils (Trochactaeon). Time was ripe to leave, during walking on the forest road about 100 meters away from sites 63 and 64, I found a small Vaccinites in the driveway. Looked at the cut slope of the road - another one. And a big Plagioptychus nearby. Nearly as found: Best of all, I walked by this spot already at least a dozen times... Summing up, another nice day out with hiking, Boletus and fossils! Franz Bernhard
  4. Hello, what do you thing about this fragmentary specimen? Its from the Upper Cretaceous Afling-Formation of the Gosau-Group of Kainach, Eastern Alps. It was found in an about 1 m thick conglomerate bed with Trochactaeon and hippuritid rudists. It consists of about 1 1/4 whorls, the whorls do not touch, hence "scalariform"(?). The upper "end" of the "tube" has an outer diameter of about 9.5 mm, the lower "end" an outer diameter of about 12 mm. The outer surface appears the be smooth, the shell is about 1 mm thick. Sorry, these are the best pics possible. Here is a link to a pic showing a part of the outcrop in October 2021: Outcrop Reinprechtskogel-63 Many thanks! Franz Bernhard
  5. I would like to share a typical "day off & out" during summer. During summer, I don´t do serious prospecting. Too hot, too green, too much distraction, like blueberries and mushrooms. So, last Sunday (07/03/2022), I mainly explored an area for "fruits" and visited two fossil sites discovered in October 2021. It was hiking-only, no driving between the various "stops". I found lots of blueberries (not fully ripe yet at 900 m asl), but it was much too dry for mushrooms. Nevertheless, I found a few places with a few Cantharellus cibarius: Some of them were even growing on extremely dry tractor paths. In the same general area, I have found two big Boletus edulis in May 31st by pure chance on a tractor path, which was very early in the year, hence my detailed prospecting for mushrooms in this area . Anyways, the goal were the sites 63 and 64, two about 10 years old forest road outcrops north of Reinprechtskogel (977 m asl) in the "Mixed Zone" of the lower Afling-formation in the Santonian-Campanian Gosau-group of Kainach of the Eastern Alps, squares are 2x2 km: Some landscape between the mushrooms and the fossils. That hill in the foreground a little bit right off the center in the first pic is Römaskogel hill (1006 m), the highest hill of the Kainach Gosau, with the rudist zones on its southwestern to northern slopes: Despite being quite densely* populated by dairy farmers, I find the area incredibly lovely and appealing**. Highest mountain in the very background to the right is about 2000 m high. Pics taken at about 900 m asl. *About 200 years ago, there was much less forest and much more (dairy) farm land in this area! **Ten years ago, I didn´t know the area yet and found it most boring geologically, judging from the literature... Site 63 exposes an about 1 m thick conglomerate bed with sparsely distributed Trochactaeon, rudists and some other molluscs, about 3 fossils per square meter are visible. The following pictured fossils were uncovered at 05/31/2022 and are somewhat clean now, scale is 1x1 m: Detail A, two weathered Trochactaeon: Detail B, a Vaccinites, a part of it still sticking in the outcrop: Here are some pics from October 2021, site 63 as found: I worked in slightly loosened parts of the exposure with a screwdriver and found some very "ugly" fossils. The following four pics all show the same specimen. The Trochactaeon is slightly flattened parallel to the bedding plane, the red object is about 11 cm high. Nearly in-situ, note the two already pictured snails at the upper right: Nearly in situ: Recovered and still in the field: Cleaned and at home: Other fossil found, upper valve of a Plagioptychus rudist: And a new one for the site, I don´t know what it is. I am fascinated by these ugly fossils in this coarse-grained conglomerate. Very probably a mix-up of various habitats, transported and deposited in a quite coarse-grained sediment. I would like to share also a polished section from this site again, specimens become a little bit better that way : I dug also a little bit at site 64, just a few tens of meters away from 63, and found again some rudists. Here, they are in a layer of sandstone, and no Trochactaeon have been observed yet. There are no outcrops between sites 63 and 64. The fossil beds could be in continuity, but it could also be a small fault in the small creek between the two sites. The fossil layer is at the red item: I took one specimen, its also not really a beauty . Freshly exposed and still in-situ: Cleaned at home: My recently bought pressure washer made cleaning of all these very dirty specimens easy. Not good, now I might take also big, very dirty specimens... Thanks for reading and looking! Franz Bernhard
  6. Hello, sure I can not beat the lovely pics, scenery and fossils posted recently by @RuMert, but I also had a nice fossil encounter two days ago (10/02/2021). After prospecting for Pb-Zn-Ba with friends from Lower Austria in the area of Peggau, I decided to visit Römaskogel in Kainach again (just 20 km away), especially to take home a big rudist specimen still waiting there. Arriving there, I decided to check out the surroundings of two recently (some weeks ago) found Vaccinites (quite a distance away from the already known occurrences), on the way to that specimen. Just 50 m away from the car, still far above of the two earlier found specimens, I encountered the first rudist, freely lying on the forest floor. And the next near it, and the next and so on. In total, about 20 specimens were just lying around in the forest in an area of a few 100 m2. And I did not search hard, because most time I tried to find the exposure with these rudists. A step ledge was promising, showing some overgrown exposures of conglomerate. Well, at the northern edge of this ledge, I really found an "outcrop" with rudists, but it could also be a block. I don´t know yet. Anyways, further detailed prospecting is urgently needed ("The Never Ending Story" ). This is the first rudist site in the northern Kainach Gosau with scattered and freely visible rudists not related to forest road construction. The fossil site shown here belongs to the "Upper Rudist Zone" with conglomeratic host rock of the lower Afling-formation (upper Santonian - lower Campanian). All rudists found so far are Vaccinites sp. Map showing fossiliferous zones of the northern Kainach Gosau. The site presented here is the northeastern extension of the dark blue "Hangende Rudisten-Zone". First rudist encounter of that day, near the home of a badger. The pen has a total length of 13.7 cm, the red part is 3.9 cm long, and all rudists are photographed in-situ, unless mentioned otherwise: Just a meter or so away, the second rudist near a root (pen!): And the next one, a slender, nearly complete one, some shell is missing, though: And the next one nearby, not very obvious (below the red x), but its a short fragment of a Vaccinites: The next one near a big root. Not well visible on the larger pics, but this was a real surprise, see last pic... Ups, turned out to be a large, nearly complete Vaccinites, nearly 20 cm long. The opposite site is a little bit crushed, but that´s ok, nobody is perfect . And so on and so on... This is the supposed outcrop as found (below the red x), very tiny (as everything in Austria ), and a loose rudist specimen near the pen. You can imagine something like a ledge in that area, if you like : "Outcrop" a little bit cleaned: Loose specimen in detail, a fragment of a big Vaccinites: "Outcrop" in detail: "Outcrop" after excavation. Its a pseudocolony of several Vaccinites, already broken into 4 pieces. Haven´t explored the "scenery" behind that pieces yet. Maybe its part of a larger outcrop, probably not: And last, something geological. Here and there you can find quite big boulders mostly made of fossil-free limestone or dolostone in the northern Kainach Gosau. This is a dolostone boulder of at least one cubic meter in size. Its a giant clast within the conglomerates and probably of paleozoic age: Hope you enjoyed a litte bit, thanks for looking. I am still very surprised and somewhat excited by that find, the first area with naturally free lying rudists of the northern Kainach Gosau. You never know whats behind the next tree, even in such a supposed fossil-poor area like the Kainach Gosau. Prospecting is everything ! Franz Bernhard
  7. Hello! Having discovered some new rudist occurrences in the lower part of the upper Santonian - lower Campanian clastic-marine Afling-formation at Römaskogel hill near Kainach, western Styria, Austria, about 6 weeks ago. Here I would like to present a very specific visit to one of these sites at 05/15/2021. It was aimed to recover some more parts of already known rudists from the outcrop at site #30. Here we go! Approaching Römaskogel, the hill in the middle. Its 1006 m high, the snowy mountain in the background is the Gleinalpe mountain, nearly 2000 m high: Already near Römaskogel hill, again the hill in the middle. These meadows are much steeper than they appear in the pic: Location of the rudist outcrop along a forest road: Rudist outcrop, scale is 1x1 m. The rudist-bearing zone is about 80 cm thick and tips gently towards south to southeast. Individual conglomeratic rudist-bearing beds are separated by layers of siltstone. The whole extensions of the rudist-bearing zone seems to be at least about 300 m, with about 5 outcrops and indications known until now. This is the best outcrop discovered so far. Right part of the rudist outcrop. At the lower end of the scale, the next pic. The digging spot of this day is to the left of the pen: Rudists ("Vaccinites Rö1") in conglomerate in the outcrop, diameter is about 5 cm: The digging site as left at 05/06/2021 and found again a week later at 05/15/2021. I had already recovered two parts of #4901 and one part of #4910. The soft siltstone in the footwall of the rudist bed clearly facilitated the recovery of the remaining parts from the relatively hard conglomerate. The pen is 13.7 cm long: Intermediate stage of recovery. The rudists are orientated parallel to the bedding plane. They are flattened, the two big ones lying with the flat side on the bedding plane. The smaller one is orientated "on edge" to the bedding plane: Here is a primitive, highly schematic and out-of-scale sketch of the situation. #4901 and #4910 are also oriented antiparallel: Dig site after removing all the rudists. #4901 yielded two more fragment (total of 4), with the very last tip still remaining in the outcrop. #4910 yielded also two more fragments (total of 3, completely recovered). #4914 recovered in two fragments: Right part of the rudist outcrop after recovery of these three rudists. Notice the difference to the start of the recovery : Here is the complete specimen #4910. It consists of 4 fragments, that were already naturally broken. Uppermost part was found 05/01/2021, next part was found 05/08/2021, lower most parts are from 05/15/2021. The rudist is strongly flattened (about 1:2), as most of the specimens from this bed, and about 21 cm long. I don´t know the species yet, working name is "Vaccinites Rö2". (Remember, nothing was known in that area until about 6 weeks ago.) The shell has a flame-like structure, which can be nicely seen in the naturally weathered transverse section. These structure corresponds to the fine longitudinal striation of the shell. Otherwise, the rudist is smooth without any ribs. In the cross section, the P-pillars are barely visible to the right, the L-pillar is not visible: Not much time was put into this recovery, most of the day was spent prospecting an area nearby. "Discovered" a freshly widened forest road (actually as wide as a good highway!) which perfectly exposes the mostly alluvial and reddish Geistthal-formation and the following clastic-marine Afling-formation for some 100 m thickness. Not much was found, but its a very, very impressive section. Here is my prospecting area (Römaskogel is in the lower left corner) and route (in blue) of that day. Red R indicate the last (highest) reddish beds: Still a lot to walk and observe during my next trip, especially to the east of the already explored area.... You never know what you will find. For example, #45 and #46 are small Trochactaeon indications. But these will be followed up next spring, when the green has gone again. Or not at all . I only made one pic during prospecting, that of a thin (1-2 cm) seam of subbituminous coal withing silt-claystone, located between conglomerate beds (#47). Such occurrences are well-known in that area: So, that was quite a typical day in the field for me: Some collecting at known sites, but more prospecting for new sites! Thanks for looking and your interest! Franz Bernhard
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