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  1. Michael1

    Florida mammal ID

    Found this tooth on my last trip in a creek super small find but still curious on what it is. Found it near the peace river. My thoughts are that its mammal maybe tapir or deer.
  2. Shellseeker

    Knowns and unknowns

    Went hunting yesterday, Still not the Peace River. That remains too deep but I expect to go there next week. Heavy rains coming on Saturday and Sunday. We will see. This is a location where I have found in the past Miocene age fossils, which is a huge attraction. One thing I noted this time is that most were heavily worn. I was digging in a location I had dug many times previously and I broke thru a sand/mud layer and the gravel started to fill more of my shovel. Broken small shark teeth made up 80 % on my shark tooth finds. It was unusual that I found no Makos and no Hemis, but I did find a single small Meg and 10 Sand tigers , half unbroken. There are some Sting ray dermals, broken barbs, a single Baracuda tooth, a couple of Anoxypristis .sp rostral tooth. I found the 1st Equus tooth I have ever found in this location.. Almost 4 inches barely erupted means 4-5 year old horse and the process from a Baleen Whale petrosal. Few Finds ... lots of variety.. Here are some knowns... and now for the fossil identifications: A Tridactly horse , but not the one (Nannippus aztecus) I usually find here. A deer antler. The length is obviously broken but the circumference seems to be all there. I am wondering if you can distinguish Miocene versus Pleistocene deer just by an antler. Those look like articulation facets, I will try to find some bone that looks like it.... Trying to figure out these last 3 will keep me going this weekend. Unidentified finds are like crossword puzzles for me. All assistance greatly appreciated. Jack
  3. Shellseeker

    Florida Baculum

    I found a fossil bone on January 9th, 2024 at a location that produces majority Blancan fauna fossils. I decided to give this fossil its own thread because 1) In 15 years hunting Peace River and Bone Valley, I have not seen a bone remotely like it, 2) I want to leave some "bread crumbs" detailing what I have learned since finding it. What can I determine by examining the find? At first glance I thought it was the broken tip of a rib. It is not. It does have a "bone" texture which is rather unique. There is a horizontal crisp ridge line running the 80 mm length of the fossil. There is a knob like feature on the proximal end. Width 20 mm, broken (thankfully) on the underside . About 3-4 mm in from the outer edge there is a longitudinal canal running the length of the find ending just to the right of the knob. If you look closely, there is an parallel canal 2-3 mm from the opposite edge running to the left side of the knob. Lets take a closer look at the left side of the knob. An exit hole for the canal near the tip, and 3 foramina holes which sometimes are seen on the outside of a jaw to transport fluids/veins/nerves. However , this is not a jaw , its shape is wrong. So this is where I start searching the internet for a bone representing fauna in my search area that is 20 mm in diameter and likely 100-150 mm in length with a knob at the end... After a while.... Once I start finding Baculum, my searches get better... I need something around 20 mm diameter... I have to figure out which end is proximal, and what about that knob.. Armand_de_Montlezun(1841_1914)_Baculum_Melursus_ursinus Polar Bear Baculum study == Length 190 mm average, width 18.7 mm average.... I realize that I need a Large bear to match the diameter on my fossil find... From the UF Paleonlology Database... Amphicyon longiramus Baculum.. Note the groves on each side leading to the proximal end of this Baculum, also the ridge along the top.. "Amphicyon is an extinct genus of large carnivorans belonging to the family Amphicyonidae, subfamily Amphicyoninae, from the Miocene epoch. Members of this family received their vernacular name for possessing bear-like and dog-like features. " Amphicyonids encompass a wide variety of carnivorous mammal ecomorphologies that are today filled by canids and ursids (Figuerido et al., 2011). Like modern carnivores, many species of bear-dogs (including Amphicyon longiramus) were highly sexually dimorphic (Hunt, 1998; Figs. 2-3), with males being much larger than females. Another quote from UFMNH: Characteristic species for the Blancan in Florida: Trachemys platymarginata, Anabernicula gracilenta, Melagris anza or M. leopoldi, Dasypus bellus, Holmesina floridanus, Pachyarmatherium leiseyi, Paramylodon harlani, Eremotheirum eomigrans, Phugatherium dichroplax, Canis edwardii, Arctodus pristinus, Smilodon gracilis, Xenosmilus hodsonae, Hemiauchenia macrocephala, Equus (Plesippus) sp., Tapirus haysii, Cuvieronius tropicus, and Mammut americanum. Note that Arctodus pristinus, Lesser short face Bear, Arctodus in Wikipedia. "There is much variation in adult size among specimens- the lack of finds, sexual dimorphism, individual variation and potentially ecomorphs could be augmenting the average size of both species of Arctodus.[2][7][49] Size differences between specimens of Arctodus simus (such as skull and long bone dimensions) led Kurtén to suggest a larger northern/central subspecies (A. s. yukonensis) and a southern subspecies (A. s. simus).[43][7][35] evolving in the Irvingtonian and Rancholabrean respectively.[35][7] However, the discovery of a very large southern Arctodus simus in Florida and New Mexico (deep within the supposed range of A. s. simus),[19][50] & possibly Rancho La Brea,[7] and notably small specimens from the Yukon and Vancouver Island,[16][17] put doubt on this designation.[51] Perceived ecomorphologies are possibly due to the low number of specimens, and sex-biased sampling.[19] For example, only one baculum ( bone) has been recovered from over 100 giant short-faced bear sites in North America (Potter Cave). I tracked down Potter Creek Cave in Shasta county and got this photo of human tools found within the cave... Item #1 seems very similar to a large Bear Baculum. I have come to the end of the search without an Identification of a unusual find. That sometimes happens. I can always wait and hope that another fossil hunter finds a similar unusual bone.
  4. Found this hastalis shark tooth in a florida creek was just wanting to share, but also wanting to ask whats the biggest lesser great white tooth people have found or personal found. Ive only been fossil hunting for two years but this is my personal best hastalis tooth its about 2.7 inches.
  5. Shellseeker

    Hunting in the cold

    Yesterday was going to dip into the high 40s F in the early morning and top off at low 70s. I know it is not the same as being up north, but deciding to step into water when the air temps are 50 degrees always generates a gasp even with a 5 mm wetsuit on . However, opportunities are few in December for me. We are hunting a location that used to produce Miocene fossils , but has been heavily worked. Mostly it produces small shark teeth today. However, like @Balance, I have learned something about layers.. and I know that I may be able to dig thru mud and sand clay, and even gravel and discover an un_dug pocket. We had found a spot where small teeth had rolled in so we could get 10-12 in a sieve and spent about 90 minutes digging. There were also a few broken Ray teeth and barbs, but I hoped for something more for this day beyond the small shark teeth. I was about to pack up, move downstream probing for gravel. For whatever reason, last sieve at this location was going to be a little upstream. There is quite a bit of gravel from old discard piles.. and a pretty deep hole. I like digging in deep holes because I favor deep water. So I stuck my shovel in the bottom of the hole and the tip hit gravel below sand and leaves. Not too much in that 1st sieve, except a couple of small rostral teeth from the knife toothed sawfish and I have hunted here quite a bit previously. This is likely from a mid_miocene Tridactyl horse named Nannippus aztecus. and that find just made my day. I was no longer thinking about what laid downstream. In subsequent sieves, we broke thru the gravel into clay... This was the only Meg I found and that was enough. I like Miocene horses a lot better than Megs . This is a pretty good Meg .. root, serrations, color, a little tip damage. My friend found 3 Megs , none quite as good as this one. We stayed the rest of the day.. Another nicer horse tooth. Multiple teeth from the same animal always get the juices flowing but this one is right lower rather than left. Too quickly the fossils in the sieves got fewer and fewer... We ran out of the pocket. The other thing that ran out was time. There are other pockets, but those will have to wait for another day.
  6. Shellseeker

    Horses

    Out hunting Monday. The days of the year are passing quickly. Here is a place that is more likely early Pleistocene, where it is possible to collect the transition of horse teeth. I found many small shark teeth including Hemipristis, Mako, Bull , Dusky, and large G cuvier Tigers.. It is always enjoyable to pick up 5 or 6 from a sieve when other fossils are less frequent. Here are those other fossils. It is a mixture of some bones ( Calcaneum, long leg bone) I would like to identify, some broken fossils (Glyptodont, Armadillo, Mammoth) , even some curious looking rocks (toss in the sieve, investigate later).. some fossils from the seas that used to cover Florida.... Just sharing what falls into my sieve... My last 5 times out, I have been finding 1 really nice upper Hemi. Here is Monday's entry (above).... but I gave this thread the title of Horses A wolf tooth (Canine present in Stallions, helpful for fighting other Stallions for a female)... These are pretty rare find for me, maybe once a year and this one is kind of distinctive, narrow, longer than normal A broken tridactly horse upper tooth, probably Nannippus peninsulatus. I really love finding these... Takes me back to great fossil hunting memories. Then a very small Non tridactyl tooth... I wonder if this is the transitional horse that @fossillarry occasionally references. They all look like Equus, but it is the small size that is grabbing my attention. and then a couple of more normal sized Equus Teeth... that are 26 and 27 APL respectively Enjoy....
  7. Shellseeker

    Hemiauchenia M3

    I decided to separate the 2 finds here from my finds from Saturday. One is pretty enough to have its own thread.. This is a upper jaw section of Hemiauchenia macrocephala from the University of Florida Vertebrate Paleontology Database. M3, M2, M1 upper right maxilla Here is almost my best find Saturday... As I picked it out of the sieve, I knew it was an upper jaw camelid, most likely Hemiauchenia. I took it over to my kayak and snapped a couple of photos. I have been educated , mostly by Harry in other threads to recognize 100 % enamel teeth (no dentine or cementum) and what that means... In this case, an young adult camel has a barely erupted tooth, still in the process of growing roots, when it was likely killed by a predator a couple of million years ago. (I like to imagine stories). Look at the 2nd last tooth ... all enamel, a bare hint of root... Initially I thought this might be the M2, but looking at this last photo, comparing to the UF 271830 jaw, I switched to the M3.. Can you see why? I sent it to Richard Hulbert last night asking insight on the filigree pattern. I said "almost" above... There is a broken fragment of a tooth that I almost tossed (NEVER toss anything you do not recognize as a rock). Serrations on a 50 mm fragment !!!! That gets my imagination going. While Megs are all over Florida, there has never been a fragment found at this location.. It is not impossible that a Meg might have wandered in to an unlikely location.. Another possibility is Great White.. We have found some small GWs, but none over 2 inches.. This would be from a max sized GW... So , shark experts could tell me what they know about serrations from larger sharks. these look uniform . exact same size... and if someone does not recognize this as Meg or GW there is yet another possibility of large teeth with serrations...
  8. Shellseeker

    Sloth and Camelid

    Years ago I frequently hunted an isolated productive site with a good friend on Saturday because he was consumed with a day job. I returned to that site today and had one of my more successful recent hunts. He just happened to decide to return to the same general vicinity today and we met and hunted together for the 1st time in 20 months. It was fun .. As fossil hunters sometimes do, we talked about those Glory days years ago, when the finds were numerous and hunting was easy.. I do not have time today, tomorrow to photo and discuss finds. But I'll show a photo confirming the finds and ask for an ID on 2 of them. 1st the Camelid tooth possibly with a pathology. I believe it to be a lower left m3. and there are only 2 choices in Florida. Palaeolama mirafica or Hemiauchenia macrocephala. 2nd is also a tooth, and I am thinking Sloth... I have seen a lot of Sloth teeth and pushed I would say Harlans. Is this tooth pathological ? Which end is the chewing surface? What is the semi_pointed thing sticking out the right side ? I always feel blessed finding unusual fossils... Jack
  9. Shellseeker

    Florida Miocene Horses

    I went out on Saturday, hunting the Peace River. Did not find very much. It was one of those days when my hunting partner, digging 5 feet from me was finding excellent fossils and me , not so much. I was also feeling out of sorts most of the day, and that turned into a stomach virus that I am now mostly over. Add about 150 somewhat bruised small shark teeth, and the hunt was not up to par. There are always gifts from the river... I hardly ever find connected ray teeth in the Peace, This is about 50% of an noncommon find. The big lift for the day is that my friend worked in the Phosphate mines in the 1980s and still connects with old friends who did the same. One has some interesting items and traded some small horse fossils including 20 plus teeth that I got before I started hunting Saturday. I am truly blessed. A few toe fossils A Medial phalanx L 25 x 22 mm Another Medial, L 20 x 16 Both are too large to be a good fit for this L 29 x 15 mm Proximal phalanx.. Big thrill ,, these are my 1st Horse Phalanx at this size... and the quality is crisp because they were never eroded by water... Naturally 3 lower right molars, possibly /likely Nannippus This one has no protostylid , thus N. aztecus APL 14 x width 8 x crown height 27 mm This one has a protostylid and very small APL 15 x width 10 x crown height 25 mm, possibly N. westoni and then this one APL 18 x Width 10 x Crown Height 34 mm. I can not tell if it has a protostylid or not...and will leave to experts to ID tooth positions... I have another 17 teeth needing photos..
  10. Shellseeker

    Hunting in the cold

    It was pretty cool yesterday. As a youth, I used to swim in Vermont quarries. But having been in Florida for 20+ years, I define cool differently. As I stepped out of my truck at 6:45 am, it was 57 degrees Fahrenheit and I was about to go swimming. I am not completely crazy. I had my 5mm shorty wetsuit on. Very successful day, Slow to start, moved twice and then consistent finds. A couple of Notes: There is a row or 2 of Tigers and 3-4 rows of Bull _ Dusky teeth those species dominate here. I pick up a some interesting bones to Identify later.... The Makos (55 and 41 mm) and lower Hemi (45 mm) were definitely appreciated. Tiger shark teeth are as large as I find anywhere. This might be P. contortus. Then this Osteoderm on the right, compared to Alligator... I almost tossed it away... but then I thought it could be Crocodile.... There is a cluster of 5 mostly whole or partial Horse teeth... They are the primary request for Identification or comments.. #1 #2 #3 Really beaten up Tridactyl,, Pretty.. need to stare at it to see if I can find the protocone. High Majority of Tridactyl Horses here are N peninsulatus #4 Almost all there... I think an Id is possible... #5 Lots missing... may be Equus.. lower partial All comments and suggestions appreciated... Jack @fossillarry
  11. Shellseeker

    Horses and Whales

    Went out Hunting both Wednesday and Thursday. Already posted Thursday finds. This was a trip back to my happy place, not huntable during the summer rains. To me this hunting trip challenges the conventional wisdom about going home again. Although I have sorted out most broken shark teeth, this is a fair representation of types of teeth 60% Bull or Dusky, 25% Tiger cuvier, 10 % Lemons. There are lots of broken bones, I collected some that I think I might want to identify. There is a lot of whale jaw... here is an example with some bite marks. I make an assumption that these are shark bites, but possibly someone with more knowledge can confirm. Land predators might leave different scars. I used to not recognize these but then Bobby identified them for me in a thread years ago ... and they are rare enough so I always keep them... Staying in the marine mammal finds, an overly worn tooth Some infrequent finds here... There are a couple of Alligator teeth and a nice scute in the photo, but Crocodile is rare... Likely a Glyptodont edge osteoderm Not sure what this one of a kind is... Reminds me of one of Harry's shrimp burrows in miniature. 2 Complete bones. The longer , thinner one is a Proximal Phalanx from Hemiauchenia gracilis, a Blancan fauna that helped me age this location years ago. Below is a research paper photo of 3 Proximal Phalanx of H. gracilis. The top 2 was within the range of 80-85 mm in length. and the caption that the muscle attachments on the proximal end resemble a "W".... The 2nd bone is an Equus Proximal Phalanx.. I found 6 Horse teeth... 4 Equus and 2 Tridactly , one lower , one upper.. The lower I recognize.. it is Nannippus peninsulatus, one of the smallest and most recent Florida Tridactyl Horse that existed in the late Pliocene (Florida Blancan Land mammal age) The other small horse tooth is a badly damaged upper. It does seems to be Nannippus, and that is why I'll try to Identify it . @fossillarry Measurements of the find are APL 11 mm, TRW 10 mm, Crown Height 30 mm. Since this find is missing about 20 % of the tooth, the APL is more likely 13-14 mm Here is an Upper Nannippus Molar to compare APL 11 x 15 x 49 mm. Enjoy, As always suggestions and comments are always appreciated.
  12. Shellseeker

    A nice mako

    I try to keep hunting year round. Sometimes it is difficult. The Zolfo Springs USGA gauge was at 8 feet today. Although I have occasionally tried, I can not breathe river water. Our temperatures were cold starting out. My car thermometer had readings as low as 53 degrees Fahrenheit. I have not been out for a week, which means muscles and joints are hurting more now. It is always nice to get rewarded. Only time for a few photos.. I generally average 6 or 7 sieves an hour and I hunted for 6 hours. Whatever I find, I am always pleased. For the 1st 5 hours, mostly small shark and ray teeth, a few ray dermals, a broken shark vert. Going into the last hour, a nice Bovid tooth, Bison or modern cow. The APL is 30 mm. I'll figure it out. The above tooth came off of clay and so I stay there trying for a Meg.. I was at the point where I should have left 2 sieves earlier in order to get home for dinner. So, I told myself that this next sieve was absolutely the LAST sieve. and... It was not a Meg A tad broke , size 55 mm. Hastalis. I'll figure out a tooth position... It always somehow feels better when the best comes last.
  13. Shellseeker

    Exceeding Expectations

    The Peace River is coming down, but not fast enough. I went out thinking about deep water, possible rain, and hopes to find some really nice small Shark teeth, Tigers, Lemons, Hemis, etc,,, I found all of those, but other goodies also... Here is a "group" photo.. and some of the goodies... The 65 mm Meg came out of the clay like this.. 15 minutes later, we had a color change Silver and yellow to Steal Grey and a light brown then a 53 mm tip of a Ray barb A couple of what I think are dolphin teeth,, here is a photo of the smaller one... I will be trying to ID this tooth. Is this just a juvenile version of Goniodelphis hudsoni ?? This fish vert is only 23 mm, and I do not have high hopes of Identification but sometimes TFF magic just happens... Finally , a Mako... Is this hastalis? Great day, lots of finds,,, some interesting... Comments Welcome Jack
  14. Shellseeker

    Heartbreakers

    Out hunting today, and that's a good thing. My primary exercise is Fossil Hunting and it is strenuous for me. I need to hunt twice a week to stay in reasonable shape but for the month of September, I was out hunting 5 times. The "special" finds are always more exciting but today there were not many combined with finding fewer small shark teeth than previous outings.. In the last 90 minutes, we decided to visit previously fruitful locations, each filling a sieve and moving on if nothing special was showing up. With 30 minutes to go, along with 7 small shark teeth, 2 dermal denticles, and a couple of sawfish rostral teeth, out pops a pretty nice Meg. At first I thought unbroken, but definitely a heartbreaker.. Great fat root, nice serrations. Even broken , this is special... 2nd last sieve, a tridactyl horse upper molar, slightly distressed and possibly identifiable. I think it is likely Nannippus, but I will be trying to ID species. Great day. No rain, slightly cooler and found a couple of specials and Zolfo USGS gauge coming down. I hope to get back to Peace River hunting late next week.
  15. Shellseeker

    Lower cow shark

    I went out yesterday. The rains had paused, a cool front came thru, on the way home, smoke from Canadian fires was blocking out the sun in Southwest Florida... Hard to believe. I needed the exercise and hunting is always rewarding.. I realize that this is a worn fragment of a cow shark tooth. Possibly the worst looking fossil I have ever asked for an Identification. Over 15 years, I have found exactly 3 upper Cow shark teeth and no lowers. This is a location with mostly Miocene land fauna. I am hoping for some possible IDs on Genus, and even species. There just were not that many Cow sharks in the Miocene of Florida. As always, thanks for comments , discussion,
  16. Shellseeker

    Whale Bulla

    I am home today with NFL Redzone playing in background, wishing I could be out hunting. So time to look at recent finds. Here is one. This is about the best quality whale Bulla that I find.. The rough and tumble of the Peace River really wears them down. Having spent a lot of time looking at Bullas on the internet this morning, I believe this is a toothed whale. It is 85-90 mm in length and I am interested in what that "bump" upper right is named. Its a connector to the Petrosal. Found this in a research paper, If I am reading this correctly , this Bulla was on the left ear of a sperm whale sometime in the late Miocene. I know that @Boesse skills are required here, but if other TFF members have Baleen or Toothed whale Bullas that also have this bump, please post more examples. Comments and Suggestions always appreciated
  17. Shellseeker

    Small Predator Phalanx

    Out to a location that is 90% marine fossils and 10% mammal. Mammal finds tend to be Late Miocene_ early Pliocene. Most mammal finds are "distressed". Smaller survives better than bigger and I see many fragments like the one below. At this size, almost certainly Tridactyl horse, but species identification impossible. My find of the day is a Tridactyl Horse Incisor. This is actually in great condition although the root area is damaged. On previous hunts, I have found 5 mm incisors of Nannippus aztecus, a very small horse. This likely from a larger cousin. The fossil I am trying to identify looks like a medial phalanx, either raptor or predator. I hope some of our members can differentiate. I will be trying to find a Pleistocene phalanx that looks like this one, regardless of size. This one is 21 mm in length. As always, I appreciate any and all comments. Jack x
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    Odd broken Shell

    Hunting 10 days ago, I found a fossils at different spot and now have the time to show these: I believe it to be a Tapir right side mandible with no teeth. As time permits , I may try to ID which tapir. Upper right is an antler stub, then a barnacle cluster and a number of shells that I have not IDed. I think the coral on the right is Solenastrea hyades, which did exist in the Pliocene_Pleistocene of Florida But the fossil I want to identify is this: What is it ?... echinoid ? I have a sand dollar that is something like that... maybe gastropod worn down to an inner slice ? In this case, your guess is definitely as good as mine, because mine is not very good.
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    Seashells and a whale vert

    Went hunting yesterday. Initially found very little. One very nice G. cuvier tooth. SO , I started moving checking out places that had produced in the past. One place had whale vert eroding out of the bank into the stream a couple of years back. So, I went there and Lo and Behold, a whale vert laying in the water directly below that bank. Hunting for fossils is sometimes easy. The bank is hard, almost rock like clay and there are hundreds of shells on the face of the bank. Small oysters and pecten's dominate. I noticed a very large oyster that seemed to have become calcified or silicified that had also fell out of the bank. I have taken some photos... The Whale Vert The Oyster Here is a pecten from the same location.... I always search the Internet for possible matches, For the Pecten I found a paper written by Richard Hulbert and Roger Portell who lead their respective departments (Vert, InVert) at the University of Florida. It had this Picture of Florida Pliocene Pecten's I did a side by side of the pecten I found. I am now thinking I have found Carolinapecten murdockensis druidwilsoni , but think I need someone like @MikeR to validate. Continuing, I searched the Internet " giant oyster Florida Pliocene" and found... this newspaper article, I wonder if this very large oyster I found is Qstrea Coxi from the Pliocene of Florida. Maybe @Boesse can tell me. So, if the Pecten and Qyster turn out to be Pliocene species, is it reasonable to think that the Whale vert might be from a Pliocene whale ? and any this was just the 2nd spot I tried...
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    Marine Petrosal, Vertebra, partial jaw

    Gorgeous day. Sunshine through 1 pm, then Thunderstorms developed with rumbles and winds that cooled me kayaking back to my truck. Not a drop. This is my favorite location, MioPliocene with lots of variety: GWs, Clams and corals, mammal and fish jaws without teeth, No time to discuss it all, but enough to get photos and ask for help on three. 1st up a tiny (because it is the smallest I have found) Petrosal. I am thinking river dolphin based on size, but It is different that those I thought were river dolphin.. Any time I seek an ID , I always search the Internet for a matching image.. On my 1st page of images, this one pops up... Take a look at A1 and compare it to my find today... REALLY close .. Only issue is that mine is half the size of these that come from Globicephaline Whales from the Mio-Pliocene Purisima Formation of Central California, USA. For the uninitiated , Globicephaline is another name for Pilot Whale. How can mine be so small and come from a whale? @Boesse Next is a small section of a Fish Jaw.... Two rows... One large, one tiny running parrallel. Is Aligator Gar the ONLY Florida fossil fish that has this characteristic ? Finally, the Fish or Shark Vert.... This seems similar to the Tiger shark Vert I found back in 2018....but not sure.. Very rare find for me...
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    Second September Trip

    I went hunting today. With travel, commitments, but mostly rain, today was only my 2nd fossil hunt this month. I am addicted, and feeling withdrawal symptoms, taking any opportunity. This is one of my favorite locations but it takes a 2 hour drive and a 2 hour kayak paddle to reach it. So I put in 8 hours of travel for 4 hours of hunting. All my low water locations have deep water and are getting deeper.. rain scheduled for most of the next week, Did not find much because I was digging locations I had previously dug but today were in 4-5 feet of fast moving water. Took some quick group shots to give member a sense of what I was finding. Usually only the best shark teeth make the photos, but this 1st photo is every shark tooth I found. I think there is an Aduncus symphyseal in there. What do you think? Here are the non_shark I need to take better photos, but not tonight.. Note what I believe to be a Llama cannon bone , missing both distal and proximal ends.. @Harry Pristis just offered a Llama foot bones sampler that I believe has one of these. I kept it because of the size... it seems small. Some additional photos. One reason I love this spot is the variety of fauna that is possible, both marine and mammal. Enough for tonight, going to sleep..
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    2023Feb3rd_BoneValleyPristis

    From the album: Bone Valley Sawfish

    Longitudinal grove identifies Pristis genus. There are 2 species of Pristis genus: Pristis pristis and Pristis pectinata. AT 65 mm length, likely Pristis pristis. (Largetooth Sawfish)
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    Miocene Horse and a few other finds

    Out hunting today, feeling the burn. Primarily I am trying to get a specific ID on a very small lower horse tooth, It has a protostylid, so not Nannippus aztecus. This is about the smallest that I ever find and so I am hopeful @fossillarry will get a chance to comment. I love lots of comments on any thread, so feel free to pile on.. I was finding other nice stuff... a lot of pretty Sand Tigers, a button denticle, very small canines, it was a good day...lots of mosquitoes and horse flies. It started off with this un_erupted enamel "cap" in the 1st sieve.. I have my thoughts but wait for TFF to ID. And finally , I was REALLY estatic about this earbone attached to a good chunk of skull.. Size is 52 x 38 mm... I am thinking , as it dries that it is modern, but still would love to know which animal creates earbones like these. Two year ago in this same location, I was finding similar earbones...Add here just for reference...
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    Yesterday's Finds

    I went hunting yesterday realizing that I would not do it again for at least 10 days. I'll have to avoid withdrawal symptoms. Found many shark teeth , a lot broken. For the most part , they were blue bladed with white roots. The 2 upper Hemis are 34 mm. I am traveling to see my daughter, she likes these colors. After sorting out the teeth and the stuff I should have left, here is what's left. I sometimes find these distinctive Tilly bones in MioPliocene environments. A colorful Alligator tooth... and now the 2 that I'll put most of my identification efforts into... A tiny fish jaw, The tips of those teeth almost look to have enamel caps. It might be modern, I do not know. It will give me something to search for in the next 10 days.... In this morning's search, I found: He did not identify the fish that the Kingfisher ate, but those who hunt Bone Valley, know that there are Kingfishers up and down the rivers and streams.... I do not expect to Identify the fish but who knows, the dentition looks somewhat unique... The last one , I do have chances to identify. It is a small , approximately 1 inch square bone with many gorges and plateaus ( we call these facets for connecting with other small bones in the wrists and ankles of mammals). At a little over 1 inch square , this is between the size of a large tridactyl horse and a small Pleistocene llama. Here is a somewhat similar bone, found in 2019 The remaining views, I have 2 puzzles to solve , hopefully with help from TFF, Jack
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    A rock or an ungual

    Just trying to finish up finds from yesterday... Here are some knowns, A small Meg I love Sand Tigers with cusps like these!!!! A 7 mm Ray denticle A lower left jaw, p2 tooth from Nannippus aztecus, And now the unknown, As the day moved on, I had already found many nice fossils and sat down on the bank for a drink of water and some grapes. Next to me was a pile of gravel discards... I just can not help searching the discards for a few shark teeth the previous hunter might have missed... I saw an interesting 3-sided bone... Posterior view.. Bottom view... Note the "texture" of this bone.... and another view of the front... Measurements are Length 62 mm, width 38 mm, Height 31 mm. I think it is a hoof core and I hope for confirmation. Going out again in the morning. Leaving Tuesday for a week in Maryland... Thanks all comments/suggestions...
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