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Okay so I found this specimen at the Taughannock Falls in Ithaca New York. I found it at the edge of the gorge which consists of shale, composed of slit and clay that fell onto lime mud and hardened into rock. I've done some research and it appears to be a Brittle star trace fossil formed by their arm grazing the sand floor. Although, these Brittle Star fish traces are known as "Pteridichnites biseriatus" and they have only been discovered so far in upper Devonian shales out in western and eastern Virginia. I'm not an expert but to my knowledge the Ithaca geological formation is Devonian and was slowly covered by sand. Is it possible that the Brittle Star fish once roamed in the ancient sea now known as "Taughannock falls" today? Because a research team is trying to find this specimen and they are wondering if anyone has discovered it. Edit: Im referring to the dotted trackway. check this link out for more information. http://www.wvgs.wvnet.edu/www/news/Pteridichnites.htm
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Hi guys got these for a steal on our favourite auction site, I’m fairly sure they’re from Eype, (English town on the West Dorset Coast) as they match the preservation and are from an old British collection. Any idea on species? Central part is about 6mm on the first and 10 on the second
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Can I have some help in ID for the 4 brittle star fossils I have? Do you think they belong to same sub species or different ? They are all from Morocco. Thank you so much!
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Brittle star fossil or carving?
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Hi all, I saw this cool looking piece in a rock store in a small US country town. There were many other fossils in the store but this one stood out to me with the contrast in the colors and reminded me of an alien creature. The store owner claimed it was real but I’m not entirely convinced. I loved the look of it so bought it anyway but thought I’d get your opinions on whether this was a real fossil in any way or just a pretty bit of art? It appears to be a part of the slab of rock and if it is carved they’ve done a very good job at getting all the details into this solid rock. Thanks!- 3 replies
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Invert fossils from Devonian of Bundenbach
Shelley newbie collector posted a topic in Is It Real? How to Recognize Fossil Fabrications
Any feedback on the authenticity and quality of these 2 fossils? I'm assuming the quality of the brittle star is not top notch, as the seller didnt provide close up photos but fir the right price, I might still buy it if it is authentic. Any advice will be much appreciated as I learned a lot from my recent post of a similar nature!- 10 replies
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Hello! This is an apparent “fossil” brittle star, looking much like those that come from the Ordovician of Morocco. However, these particular fossils are very often faked, and I have a strong gut feeling that this particular one has been carved into the matrix. What does everyone else think? For whatever reason that I can’t quantify this piece *looks* like a fake to me, especially due to the fact that it has a very distinctive obvious outline from an air tool, which often is a sign of carving, though that I’ve also often seen that done with genuine Knightia and such. There are a few things that may help indicate that it’s genuine, however, notably that fine details that would be difficult/too labor intensive to carve like “ribbing” on the arms and a “star” (like that on a sand dollar) in the middle of the body are visible. I’ve also already run a cotton swab with acetone over the body, which has not removed any color, so that may help rule out painting. But yes, my gut says it’s a carved forgery (or I guess to be nice you could say “replica”), interested in what everyone else thinks because I’m not 100% sure. Thanks!
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Geocoma Carinata (brittle starfish) real or carved?
Rvald005 posted a topic in Is It Real? How to Recognize Fossil Fabrications
Hello everyone! first time poster here. I wanted to gather some opinions on whether this is a genuine or carved brittle starfish. I found it for sale online and wanted to purchase it for my collector wife (as a surprise). However, I heard/read there are many fake fossils and I don’t have enough confidence to make a call on its authenticity. What do you all think? thanks a lot for the help and advice. -Robert- 8 replies
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Crab? Shrimp? Brittle Star Arms? or just rocks? Canyon Lake Central Texas
JamieLynn posted a topic in Fossil ID
Was out near Canyon Lake today and found these oddities. I think my expectations are overreaching my reality, but I sure would like these to be something other than just something boring, like worm burrows.....sorry worm burrows, no disrespect. Any help is appreciated! Crab Claws? Shrimp? Brittle Star Arms? Seriously...I know these are probably worm burrows, but hey, a girl can hope..... t- 6 replies
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Brittle star fossil, genuine or carved?
MarielleK posted a topic in Is It Real? How to Recognize Fossil Fabrications
Hello all. I saw this brittle star fossil up for sale, and wanted to check if it was genuine. It says it is from Morocco, and from the Ordovician period. I know a lot of sea stars and brittle stars coming out of Morocco are carved. I am not as educated on echinoderm fossils as much as others. I've included pictures. What do you all think? Thank you!- 5 replies
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Loriolaster mirabilis Stuertz, 1886 Early Devonian Early Emsian Bundenbach Quarry Eschenbach Germany Diameter 8cm- 1 comment
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Euzonosoma tischbeinianum F.A.Roemer Lower Devonian Emsian Bundenbach Hunsrück Germany Length 8cm-
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Asteriacites lumbricalis are five-rayed trace fossils found in marine sedimentary rocks. They record the burrows of ophiuroid and asteroid sea stars on the sea floor. Here in this particular case it can be assumed that these traces originate from Palaeocoma escheri Herr, 1865 (or Ophioderma escheri), a brittle star, whose remains were found to hundreds in situ in the same layers.
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Villier, L., Charbonnier, S. and Riou, B. (2009). Sea stars from Middle Jurassic lagerstätte of La Voulte-sur-Rhône (Ardèche, France). Journal of Paleontology, 83(3), pp.389-398.
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As often the case with brittle stars and other starfish, this shows the oral surface and is on the underside of the sandstone bed. The bed below it is a shale and the base of the sandstone represents a sudden influx of sediment which preserved the brittle star nearly intact. This was Invertebrate/Plant Fossil of the Month Sept 2014 and Fossil of the Year 2014.
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Geocoma carinata (v. Münster in Goldfuss, 1833)
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Geocoma carinata (v. Münster in Goldfuss, 1833) Upper Jurassic Tithonian (Malm zeta) Zandt Germany Diameter 8cm / 3 inch-
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Palaeocoma escheri (Herr, 1865) Early Jurassic Hettangian Blumenrod Coburg Germany Ophiuroid trace fossil-
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Euzonosoma was a brittlestar genus that existed during the Devonian period. This E. tischbeinianum is from the Bundenbach slate of Germany. The slate was quarried for use in the roofing industry for many years and, at least in some parts of Germany, you can still see houses covered by Bundenbach slates. Unfortunately, roof-slate mining in Bundenbach came to an end in 1999. The fossil has been replaced by iron pyrite or ''fool's gold''. The brittlestar already started to become decomposed at the tip of the arms. Taxonomy from Fossilworks.org. Alternative combinations: Aspidosoma tischbeinianum, Encrinaster tischbeinianus. Description from Südkamp 2017, p. 132: " The quite large disc is composed of large and irregularly polygonal plates. The disc has a concave margin and is bound by blocky rounded marginals. They have in the middle part their largest size. The mouth-angle plates are small and stumpy and have a broad proximalgroove. The five elongate arms are the broadest just outside of the disc edge, taper strongly and end whip-like. The ambulacrals alternate over the midline and are rectangular dorsally. They form transverse ridges that are groove-like and, especially within the disc, deeply sunken. Orally the ambulacrals are boot-shaped. The tall laterals are blocky, rectangular and bear short groove spines." Identified by oilshale. References: Roemer, C. F. (1864) Neue Asteriden und Crinoiden aus devonischem Dachschiefer von Bundenbach bei Birkenfeld. Palaeontographica 9:143-152. Südkamp, W. (2017): Life in the Devonian. Identification book Hunsrück Slate fossils. Verlag Dr. Friedrich Pfeil. München 2017. ISBN978-3-89937-221-2.
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Geocoma carinata (v. Münster in Goldfuss, 1833)
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Taxonomy from Fossilworks.org. Description from Südkamp 2017, p. 139: " Furcaster is a very abundant ophiuroid with opposing fused ambulacrals. These vertebrae are elongate and wing-like. The five narrow arms are high and taper to whip-like extremities. Each ambulacral pair has a pronounced median dorsal oval cleft. The ambulacral plates are essentially flat and plastron-like orally (plastron is the lower shell of a turtle). The round small disc is granulated. The mouth frame is petaloid and the mouth-angle plates are sub-triangular in outline. The ambulacral groove is open. The laterals are blocky to barette-shaped. They bear a tuft of vertical needle-like spines, and leaf-like groove spines." Lehmann (1957) listed three species: Furcaster palaeozoicus, F. decheni and F. zitteli. F. decheni is the largest and more robust than F. palaeozoicus. The disc incorporates about seven arm segments. Identified by oilshale. References: Stürtz, B. (1886) Beitrag zur Kenntnis paläozoische Seesterne. Palaeontographica 32:75-98. Lehmann, W.M. (1957) Die Asterozoen in den Dachschifern des rheinischen Unterdevons. Abhandlungen des Hessischen Landeshamtes für Bodenforchung 21:1-160. Südkamp, W. (2017): Life in the Devonian. Identification book Hunsrück Slate fossils. Verlag Dr. Friedrich Pfeil. München 2017. ISBN978-3-89937-221-2.
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