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  1. LeytonJFReid

    Camelid? tooth from Florida

    Camelid? tooth from Pleistocene Florida (As good as the location gets). On college ruled paper, each line is 7.1 mm
  2. johnnyvaldez7.jv

    20231015_000829.jpg

    From the album: MY SE TEXAS FINDS

  3. Hi all! I’m looking for some help identifying the specific animal this tooth came from. I know it’s camelid but that’s about it. Measurements are in last images. Let me know if you need more. Thanks!
  4. NevadaHunter

    Help consolidating a pelvis

    Hi all, I have a mostly intact pelvic bone of a large camel species. Unfortunately, it was found just and inch or two below the surface in a quite soft sandstone that was mostly sand. As a result the side closest to the surface is in quite poor shape, especially near the obturator foramina. I have used paraloid B-72 throughout the prep to give some strength to the bone and some superglue in the larger cracks, but as I have removed most the matrix, this is quite the fragile piece. Any suggestions on how best I can proceed? I know paraloid isn’t best for heavy weight and I don’t want to paint superglue all over it-unless that’s what’s needed.
  5. garyc

    Artiodactyl jaw

    Despite the 100 plus degree temps, the low level of the Brazos River drew me from comfortable air conditioning. I hit a stretch of the river that I frequent and know that it’s been picked over, but it’s almost a foot lower than my last visit so I hoped there would be more to find. I didn’t come home with the haul I’d hoped for, but I was not disappointed either. The find of the day was this partial mandible. When I initially picked it up I was thinking bison. After getting home and cleaning it up a bit and comparing to another bison jaw I have I’m now leaning toward camelid. I also think that these are two broken teeth….m2 and m3. Please take a look and weigh in.
  6. Done Drillin

    Camel or llama - or both?

    Found this beautiful incisor ( upper left ? ) and 2 posterior camelid teeth last week in the peace river near Bowling Green. Wanting to know if they are camel or llama and what occlusal characteristics separate the two. I have read the threads put forth by shellseeker and viewed the UF paleo pictures comparing the two discussing the cementum level as 1 distinguishing characteristic and the presence of crenulations as an additional identifying feature but still have trouble distinguishing the two. Another feature they discuss is the shape of the cusps being either U or V shaped - I assume this is in reference to the shape of the lingual cusps ?
  7. PODIGGER

    Peace River ID help

    Finally made it back to the Peace River ,Fl for my first hunt of the season. It was a good day overall. Along with numerous and varied small shark teeth I came up with these two finds that I am hoping for some input on for a positive ID. First up is a piece of ivory that I believe must be Gomphotherium due to the black banding. I considered it might be staining from the river but it looks to uniform and seems to be layered. Next is what I believe to be Artiodactyl in nature. Maybe camel or llama. My hesitation with this ID is the size. I believe it is a partial molar 2 7/8” tall x 1” thick x 3/4” wide. This seems quite large for either camel or llama. I looked at bison but didn’t think the bite surface was a match. Any insights or opinions would be appreciated, Thanks.
  8. PODIGGER

    Peace River ID help

    Got out to the Peace River, FL yesterday for another hunt. The water level finally seemed low enough that I would be able to get to my target spot and have a productive day. The only problem was the fact that the sun never came out and I had to quit early due to getting wet and cold with no way to warm up. Luckily I had my emergency dry shirt to change into before I started shivering! I always keep one on board the kayak sealed in a plastic bag. Came up with several of the usual items, horse tooth, partial megs, couple of hemis, turtle and a nice gator tooth. Then I pulled up what I believe are an armadillo scute, camelid incisor and a tiny dolphin tooth. The last three I am posting below for some help and/or confirmation on the ID. First a picture of the best of the day finds - Here is what I believe is the camelid incisor. From prior posts by @digit and @Shellseeker along with comparable pictures from @Harry Pristis I believe this is a large headed llama tooth, Hemiauchenia macrocephala. Both digit and Shellseeker found prior examples that they posted here on the forum along with Harry's pictures - One of @Harry Pristis examples: Next up is a small tooth I believe is dolphin. It is only 20mm long so is dolphin possible? Finally, what I have id'd as an armadillo dermal scute - Any help with confirmation or other possible id's would be appreciated, Thanks!
  9. Harry Pristis

    camel astragalus

    From the album: BONES

    This is a Pleistocene camelid ankle bone, the astragalus. These bones may preserve when other postcranial bones are lost because they are dense, with minimum vascularization. Based on size, I think this astagalus is from either Hemiauchenia sp. or from Palaeolama mirifica. There may be a way to distinguish between the astragali of these two taxa, but I don't know what those characteristics are. Help me out if you can. Infraorder TYLOPODA . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Superfamily CAMELOIDEA . . . . . . . . . . . . Family CAMELIDAE [camels, llamas] . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Subfamily AEPYCAMELINAE [giraffe camels] . . . . . . . . . . . . (several gen. and sp.) . . . . . . . . Subfamily FLORIDATRAGULINAE . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Floridatragulus sp. [two species] Subfamily CAMELINAE . . . . . . . . . . . . .Tribe LAMINI [llamas] . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Hemiauchenia sp. [five species] . . . . . . . . . . . . . Palaeolama mirifica . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Tribe CAMELINI [camels] . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Procamelus sp. [two species] . . . . . . . . . . . . . Megatylopus sp.

    © Harry Pristis 2014

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