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  1. Shellseeker

    A Canine or Tusk

    One of the enjoyable things of this hobby is friends sending me photos of their finds. Usually I try to post my own fossils, because I have them in hand and take additional photos and measure, etc etc. This one arrived today, a land find from a pit in Bone Valley.. I asked for additional photos and measurements, but felt I could show you the photo I have and request input. To me, it looks to be 3-4 inches and has some distinctive markings. I have a guess, but will wait on yours.. Jack
  2. SawTooth

    Dredge IDs

    Today we took a trip down to a dredge and had probably our second best trip, we came out with quite a few fossils that we could not identify, I was wondering if anyone could help? Ones a vert from a large fish, probably a drum, but I was wondering if someone could clarify that. Another is a bone that looks nearly complete, probably from a whale, but I am not certain and it looks distinct, and I was hoping someone would know the specifics. Also we got a price of what I am pretty sure is turtle plastron and a gator vert. And the best find was some sort of canine. I'm not sure what it is, I do not believe its whale but the tooth looks to short to be canine or feline, but I could be wrong.
  3. Arizona Jon

    Tooth fossil in sandstone?

    Found in eastern AZ. Tooth in sedimentary sandstone? Any input appreciated. First and second pics look like top of tooth and 3rd & 4th pics are other side and look like bottom part ir fang tips? Thanks
  4. Fancy

    Second Skull ID Please

    This is the second of the two skull I cant ID. I am leaning toward canine of some sort. maybe? I assume this one is also from China considering the matrix still attached looks the same as the larger skull in my other topic. Any help is appreciated.
  5. Brad s.

    White canine tooth

    When I saw the white color I immediately thought it was modern, but an isurus retroflexus tooth found nearby was close to the same color.
  6. Stevoflinn

    Wyoming Molar and Canine

    Stumbled across these fossils on a hillside in the Badlands of the bighorn basin Wyoming I have looked at fossil records for identification of these teeth nothing I have come across so far has been comparable to this size besides ancient rhinoceros any information on this would be helpful all teeth were found together in a washout ditch only inches from one another
  7. Shellseeker

    Blancan fossils

    I know of a Blancan site where Blancan fauna represent more than 80 % of the finds. The rest of the finds seem to be early Equus. You never know what you might find. I went there recently with a good friend after the deep water levels had subsided. Some of these fossils he found and some are my finds. To be successful in identifying fossils, it is important to understand the scientific age of the fossil you find in the same location. There are no Megs at this site and layer, not even fragments. The consensus seems to be that Megs went extinct 3-4 MYAs. There is some mixture, but unlike the Peace River, it is almost insignificant.. The Blancan is divided into two subintervals: the Bl1 from 4.75 to 2.6 million years ago; and the Bl2 from 2.6 to 1.6 million years ago. The Bl1 does include the earliest known occurrences in Florida of Carcharodon carcharias and the last known occurrences of the sharks Carcharocles megalodon, Carcharodon hastalis, and Hemiprisitis serra, the baleen whale Balaenoptera cortesii (= Balaenoptera floridana), the walrus Ontocetus emmonsi, and the dugong Corystosiren varguezi. Why significant ? Well that is an antler tip up there and it almost certainly belonged to a an Artiodactyl, but which one? Might it be from Capromeryx as opposed to a white tail deer? Odocoilius virginianus. Index species for the Bl2 in Florida: Chelydra floridana, Phalacrocorax filyawi, Titanis walleri, Megalonyx leptostomus, Paramylodon garbanii, Sigmodon minor, Sigmodon medius, Sigmodon curtisi, Ondatra idahoensis, Castor californicus, Peromyscus hagermanensis, Erethizon poyeri, Erethizon kleini, Borophagus diversidens, Canis lepophagus, Trigonictis macrodon, Chasmaporthetes ossifragus, Platygonus bicalcaratus, Hemiauchenia blancoensis, Hemiauchenia gracilis, Capromeryx arizonensis, Nannippus peninsulatus, Tapirus lundeliusi, and Rhynchotherium praecursor . I am not trying to ID the antler, but I do have one fossil I am interested in a verification and 2 fossils for my hunting friend. Mine I believe to be Neohipparion eurystyle and would like to have confirmation. The 2nd is a small canine. I have great difficulty differentiating raccoon from possum from from skunk in the Pleistocene. He thought this was dolphin, I think it is land mammal. It is 27.5 mm in length and has a ridge in the enamel just above the root. Thoughts on Land versus marine mammal ? Finally, I have never seen a fossil like this one. and I have little hope of identifying.... I think it is marine and the reason you have all this background. I am trying to depend on those TFF members from up north... @MarcoSr @Al Dente@siteseer@Northern Sharks @sixgill pete That bottom photo makes it look like a Vertebra... could it be the crest of a fish ? 30 mm in length. Please help. I am out of my league. Jack
  8. Hello everyone, I got offered with this "fossil" from Java. The Selle says it's a carnivore canine. But I don't even think it's a fossil but a strange shaped rock, or if it's a fossil it's made of two pieces. What do you think of it?
  9. Shellseeker

    Mailbox Canine - STH

    When I first saw this tooth, I was thinking Allodesmus, maybe seal. But then I noted the hollow root. Certainly not croc/gator, so whale ? Do Dolphins have hollow roots? The ones I have found have closed roots. If whale or dolphin, which one? Tooth is about 2.6 inches long. Usual suspects: @Boesse, @ynot @siteseer Comments on open versus closed roots in marine mammals appreciated.
  10. LynH

    Canine tooth ID

    Found in the Peace River, Florida. Unfortunately root is missing. Fairly robust size, curved, one side appears to have a mesial ridge. I am hoping it is dire wolf. What do you think?
  11. Mtwombly

    Peace River Jaw

    Hi guys! I am new to the forum but am an avid 23 year old fossil hunter and artifact collector. I have been hunting for a good while now and have a large collection from all over Florida. I was recently doing an overnight camping paddle on the peace river to hunt now that the water is low, and I found many things (including some worked flint among the fossils, which was quite surprising) but this particular find I need some opinions on! I’m not convinced that it’s entirely fossilized, though what is confusing me is that it is much heavier than it should be and also did not react significantly to the burn test when compared with modern bone. It is similar to a coyote except in the hinge of the mandible area. I found this under a gravel deposit in a particularly limestone-y area of the river. I have other fossil jaws in my collection which are similar in weight, but not so much color. Any opinions would be appreciated!
  12. Shellseeker

    Tiny Canine Peace River

    I was out hunting the Peace River yesterday. It was a great day to be there. I did not find a special gem, but did pretty well on small shark teeth. (Some nice upper hemis, a nice Sand Tiger, and even a small Thresher). Additional mammal finds were far and few between. A couple of dolphin verts, a dolphin bulla, horse tooth, ball of a femur. What I am trying to ID is that little canine, dead center bottom in photo above. I am used to putting up photos of canines 1.25 inches and up. I have always made likely incorrect assumptions of what these very small canines come from. Since this is my 1st time discussing undersized canines, I would like suggestions on how many possibilities am I dealing with..... So , small predator, likely much smaller then Raccoon, possum, skunk.
  13. LynH

    Small carnivore tooth?

    Small, sharp curved point, groove along one side, cross section would be flattened, not round, tooth found in Peace River, Florida. Approximately 1 inch long, 5/16” wide at root, 3/16” thick at root. ID assistance appreciated.
  14. Harry Pristis

    Cave bear teeth

    From the album: TEETH & JAWS

    © copyright Harry Pristis 2021

  15. Fossil-Collecter

    Florida Pleistocene Canine Teeth

    Found these teeth recently along the Peace River in Florida. Was curious what species these may be from. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
  16. Since Platygonus Peccary is the topic, a specimen I've wondered about for many years. Found in a cave in Perry County, Missouri 16 January 1977, a specimen I'd ID'ed as Platygonus compressus and it was associated with other Ice Age fossils. However, I have a replica of a 9" Sabertooth canine I helped find in another nearby cave and there are similarities.... Please tell me what you think, Peccary canine or juvenile Sabertooth canine? The hollow portion has some wax inserted for reinforcement. The light blue grid is one inch.
  17. Opabinia Blues

    Fossil Tooth Tip Restoration?

    Hello, I have a large canine tooth (~14 cm with the root, ~6.5 cm with just the tooth) from the White River Formation that I collected this summer on privately held land in northeastern Colorado, and though the fossil in its natural state is fantastic as-is I’m thinking about doing a little bit of restoration on the fossil and am looking for some insights. The tooth itself is from either an entelodont or the rhino Metamynodon, with the shape of the tooth and root strongly suggesting the latter to me (feel free to speak out if you have an opinion one way or the other, though I’m not specifically asking for an ID in this thread). I found the tooth in several pieces and glued everything that I could find back together. I have most of the tooth, but only a small piece of the tip remains. Also, I have not glued the tooth back to its root, and instead simply display them together as if they were connected. I am thinking about restoring the rest of the tip by sculpting it in using paleosculp from Paleobond, using what piece of the tip there is as a guide. I am looking for any information anyone can give me on paleosculp and the process of restoring a fossil using this material. Would this be the correct product for the job? Is there anything I should know when working with the material? Is restoring the tip of this tooth even a good idea at all, or in the name of science should I leave it as I found it? I intend to leave the paleosculp unpainted for the purposes of not risking damage to the fossil and also making it obvious which pieces of the fossil are original (most of it) and which pieces are restoration (just a little section of the tip). I understand that dinosaur teeth are frequently restored in this way, but I want to make sure that I’m not committing blasphemy by doing such a restoration. Also, paleosculp is advertised as being sand-able and drill-able after it dries, and so I figure if the restoration ever needs to be removed for whatever reason it could be sanded away in a labor-intensive process, but do let me know if this is not the case. I also intend to clean the fossil up a bit more (ie get rid of some of the residual dirt still on it) and potentially glue the tooth onto the root. Thank you for any insights and information you may have! Picture of the fossil and of the tooth tip provided for context.
  18. Hi, I acquired this tooth a couple days ago and was wondering if anyone could confirm that it is fully authentic, I don’t really have reason to believe it’s faked, or restored, the root just looks odd... I’m thinking it’s just odd preservation, because 1. I’ve never seen a restored bear canine that’s not museum quality, and 2. I’d think it would be completely restored too museum or near museum quality. @Harry Pristis @Shellseeker @Bone Daddy@PODIGGER. TIA, I appreciate all thoughts!
  19. Caallison

    Canine Tooth?

    Here is a tooth that I unknowingly found while digging up possible Proboscidean fossils. From what I was able to research, I believe it belongs to a canine ancestry, but the root growth makes me lean towards there bear side of the canine ancestry. Overall the flattened ridges on top do not match any of my theories. What do you all think?
  20. PrehistoricWonders

    Coyote canine?

    Hi, i purchased this canine today as a coyote canine, but it’s 1 3/4 inches long which seems big to me, I’m torn between red wolf and coyote. @Shellseeker @Bone Daddy @PODIGGER @Harry Pristis. TIA
  21. Fossil_Adult

    Trip from corolla beach, NC

    Ok so to start off with this, I’m going to post my finds from a recent trip to the outer banks of North Carolina. I was very disappointed to be going to this location at first, because I had no idea of its fossil significance. I wanted to go further down south where the sharks teeth get huge, but the cases further down for Covid 19 were very high and I didn’t want to risk catching the virus so the whole group (who were all my neighbors) decided to head here instead. The first day on the beach, I found a lot of fish fossils (including those vertebrae’s) but it was the second day that was the best. I came across a canine jaw! With the teeth still inside it. It was just sitting in the gravel where I searched for shark teeth and I was so happy of my find because I knew it was something good. As the days went on, I kept finding more evidence of land mammal fossils here, including an astragalus, a scute for a mammal of some sort, crab fragments, fish bone, and a lot more! I have to say, in my years of collecting North Carolina I’ve never come across such an abundance of land mammal fossils in one week. The one question I have, however, is if there is any way you guys could help me identify the species of the jaw? I tried to look for fossil formations off shore but I can’t find any links leading to what this came from. I tried looking at land mammal fauna’s of N.C. but it pulled up nothing. Is there any way to get a specific ID on this jaw?
  22. Hi everyone, some time ago I got this fossil tooth from a European collector, the only thing the seller was able to tell me is that it was a canine of a carnivore (quite evident) and that it had been found in the most recent sediments of the Linxia basin in the HeZheng area (corresponding to late Pliocene-early Pleistocene age). Intrigued by the fossil, I decided to buy it and find out what animal it was. The first thing to do (in addition to hoping that the seller has given you correct information) is to search for articles regarding the fossil fauna and the ecology of the area where the fossil was found. In my case I found a very interesting article by paleontologist Deng Tao (Character, Age and Ecology of the Hezheng Biota, 2005) who gave me an overall view of the variety of carnivorous mammals that characterize the fossil association. Then we move on to carefully observe the fossil, based on the curvature of the tooth this would seem to be a left upper canine. Another important detail is the presence of evident grooves on the crown of the tooth, this feature suggests that the tooth belongs to a feline. Which felines were present in the fossil fauna of the area? -Panthera palaeosinensis = one of the oldest known species of Panthera, but its relationship to other Pantherinae is still debated -Felis teilhardi = an enigmatic lynx like cat -Lynx shansius (Lynx issiodorensis) = an ancestor of the current lynxes, generally it had larger size and with a more elongated snout -Sivapanthera linxaensis (Acinonyx pardinensis) = ancestor of today's cheetahs, it could reach much larger dimensions. Then we proceed by exclusion, the tooth is too slender to be a tooth from Pantherinae and also too big (62+ mm) to be Felis teilhardi's. There are therefore two options, Lynx shansius and Sivapanthera linxaensis, here the analysis becomes more complex because it is necessary to obtain precise measurements of the tooth. Therefore, the length and width of the tooth (mediolateral breadth and anteroposterior length) are obtained. The height is not important because it can be compromised by wearing or possible fractures. Using a digital caliber, I obtained a length of 12.2 mm and a width of 10.1 mm (the measurements are probably inferior than the real dimensions because the presence of the matrix and the skull did not allow a correct estimation. Probably the tooth is larger by 1-2 mm). Comparing the measurements obtained with those reported in numerous articles, we can observed that the dimensions of the tooth are slightly greater than those of a large specimen of Lynx shansius while they fall within the size range (very close to the lower limit, see graph) of Sivapanthera linxaensis. To conclude, considering the underestimation of the measures, either it is a large lynx (unlikely hypothesis due to the lack of wear on the tooth) or it is a young specimen of Sivapanthera linxaensis. Thanks for making it this far, I hope this little recognition exercise of mine can serve as a little guide on how to go about trying to identify a fossil. Clearly, if someone has a different hypothesis or a different theory, they can explain it.
  23. Roby

    Oligocene Canine Lower Jaws

    This June I went hunting the Oligocene White River formation in Wyoming and found two lower Canine jaws. I could us a little help in identifying them. I was thing the second one could be a bear dog. Its a juvenile with new eye teeth starting to erupt but the front of the jaw is missing.
  24. Real or not? 15 inches long. "Expertly prepared"
  25. Shellseeker

    Predator Canine

    64 mm Canine. I keep flip_flopping. Wolf, Bear, Jaguar are the likely candidates.
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