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Chinese Dinosaur Skeletons in Burrow Buried by Volcanic Eruption
DPS Ammonite posted a topic in Fossil News
Two skeletons of the newly described Early Cretaceous ornithopod dinosaur Changmiania liaoningensis were found in a burrow that was buried by a volcanic eruption about 150 million years ago in China. There is a great photo from the Peerj article of gastroliths found clustered inside the skeleton. We should show this photo to all members that show us purported gastroliths as an example of the level of proof need to prove that their stone is a gastrolith. Yang Y, Wu W, Dieudonné P, Godefroit P.2020. A new basal ornithopod dinosaur from the Lower Cretaceous of China. PeerJ8:e9832 https://doi.org/10.7717/peerj.9832-
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So I bought these tooth-fragments at a fossil show back in December in Hamburg, Germany. The seller had a lot of different fossils, including a huge ilium bone of a sauropod from the Kem Kem beds, as well as a tibia from a large indet. theropod (Which according to the seller was Spinosaurus). Other than that, he sold large tooth fragments from the Montana, Hell Creek formation, probably Rex, but no complete Rex teeth. Some dromaeosaurid teeth from the Hell Creek formation, and various herbivorous dinosaur teeth from the same formation too. A lot of ichthyosaur bones from Dotternhausen, Germany. Some fossil amphibian skulls, can't remember where from or what species exact, some of them were still in a matrix, the bones were almost red and looked a bit similar to that of Eryops. He also sold small plastic containers of tooth fragments from China/Mongolia, labelled "Tarbosaurus". I bought one of these containers. The seller told me they were collected near the border between China and Mongolia. I was never truly sure if they were 100% Tarbosaurus, could literally be any other theropod. And considering there was no specific location or formation, it's really hard to tell what I've actually bought. I've had some people write to me, wanting to buy the fragments, and have each and every time told them, that I really can't know for sure what these fragments belonged to. Just recently I bumped into this tooth (as seen below here) online for sale: It is described as a Carcharodontosaurus indet. tooth from the Kem Kem beds of Morocco. And the coloration looked oddly similar to one of the fragments I bought at the fossil show. Now, before you say anything, I know that coloration varies a lot within every location, and some locations may yield fossils that look identical in coloration to other locations' fossils, but I just thought the reddish tone underneath the enamel seemed very familiar in regards to especially 1 of the fragments, which is a partial tooth, and also the most complete one from the little container I bought. (See the partial tooth below): The tooth on the above pictures has the following serration counts: Mesial carinae: ~18 serrations per cm, roughly 2 per mm. Distal carinae: ~20 serrations per cm, roughly 2 per mm. It measures: 2,5 cm at its longest dimension. 1,4 cm wide. About 0,9 cm thick at the thickest point. After seeing the picture of the Carcharodontosaurus indet. tooth for sale, I thought maybe this could be a Kem Kem tooth too. Anyone who's got a guess or a hunch?
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Hello fellow enthusiasts. I just came across two items from a friend who’s parents came to Europe from China in the 80s. Apparently they gave away a bunch more as random gifts to friends and colleagues :). The first one seems to be dentures of some sort and the other one a vertebrae but I have no clue from which species. Do you have any ideas what these might be?
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Keichousaurus - real, fake, altered?
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Came across this one and wondered if it was fake or doctored. I have my suspicions - for one, the legs look disproportionate, but I wouldn't know. I wouldn't mind having one of these if it's real and the price is right. This is the only pic available... maybe not big enough to tell anything for sure? but I know some of you have a pretty good eye!- 10 replies
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This specimen is from Quqing of Yunnan Province, China. Devonian period. Any idea if it is a placodermi?
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A huge Hungaiidae trilobite from Hunan Fenxiang Formation, Lower Ordovician. Part of gut is preserved due to infilled sediment.
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Some eggs for identification
Fotsirk posted a topic in Is It Real? How to Recognize Fossil Fabrications
Hello guys . I can i get some opinions on these two eggs They came from an old collection. So they say The first was labelled as a protoceratops 14.5cm The second one is labelled tabosaurus 17.5 cm Thanks -
Hi everyone, I just received this tooth, it is clearly an upper carnassial of a carnivore, it should come from Gansu, China. Can anyone help me with the identification? Based on it's appearance and what the seller said to me I think it's from the huge mustelid Eomellivora
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Can anyone help me to identify this skull?? It came from China 30 years ago and appears to be a young cave bear but I am not 100% positive. I thought it may be a bear-dog or Hyaenodon type of canid but the snout is too short. A percrocuta was also a thought, but they seem extremely rare. Any information would be gladly appreciated! Thanks in advance!
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Concave convex Keichousaur
FF7_Yuffie posted a topic in Is It Real? How to Recognize Fossil Fabrications
I know these are often suspect, but this being both concave and convrx seems hopeful. Bit of a botch on neck and head, since that is on the other side. On most I see for sale, the bones are usyally darker. Is that down to a poor prep or are tge darker ones often colored/highlighted. Thanks. Getting a Keich never appealed to me, but if price stays low... -
My Birthday is coming up in a few days and I am looking to knock something off of my bucket list. This insect has caught my eye. It is within my budget and from a reputable seller, but unfortunately, I know little about fossilized insects, and less about ones from China. I have done some research and it seems that Dragonflies (and many other insects) are common in the given formation. From what I can tell, there is nothing suspicious about this one, but I thought I would poll the audience just in case. Dragonfly Larvae (Roughly 2in or 5cm long) Yixian Formation (Cretaceous) Huangbangi Valley from Liaoning Province of China
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Jinanichthys longicephalus Ma & Sun, 1988 Early Cretaceous ZhenDong Liaoning China.
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Jinanichthys longicephalus Ma & Sun, 1988 Early Cretaceous ZhenDong Liaoning China.-
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Jinyupelta is the oldest confirmed ankylosaurid with a tail club, and I'm speculating that ankylosaurids evolved tail clubs to counter the emerging threat of giant theropods like carcharodontosaurs and tyrannosaurs. Since the Albian-Turonian of China boasts a number of giant carcharodontosaurs (Chilantaisaurus, Shaochilong), is it possible that Jinyunpelta could effectively take down a Chilantaisaurus/Shaochilong-type carcharodontosaur or Suskityrannus-type tyrannosaur with its tail club?
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This specimen is about 16cm in length from Guizhou in Triassic formation. Any idea if it's a primitive agnathan?
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I like geology better, so I like to run around my city On this mountain is a Taoist temple. Taoism is the traditional religion of China. But you see, the slope is very steep. This is the Taoist gate, but I'm not here to see it. On the mountain, have two Chinese characters:"道魂". It means the soul of Taois(Of course there are fossils in this big rock, haha). Running to the side of the mountain without temples, I found some mollusks, of course, many of whom I didn't know. I don't know what they are, and I don't know who to ask.- - Of course, I was about 30 meters away from the top of the mountain, and I found something that I didn't know whether it was fossil trees or sedimentary rocks, which confused me-v-. The sun wants to go home, well, I'll go home, too - V -
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Well, not oldest but earliest. Parasite attached to brachiopods https://www.livescience.com/cambrian-parasites.html
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At first glance it looks real to me--mainly because it's not in the best condition. I figure if someone was gonna fake it, they'd do more than partially cover the egg 17.9cm x 7.8cm x 7.6 cm Described as an Elongatoolithidae egg. Thanks. I know it's not the best, but it's affordable enough so I don't have to dip into the budget I've set aside to get some verts and teeth.
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Hello, I'm not much of a fish fossil person, but I like the look of this and might throw it in with another order I'm making. It doesn't have much specific details though. It's just described as Liaoning Pipe Fish" and 150 million years old Jurassic. The fish itself is about 3 inches long. There's not much showing up on google images for chinese pipe fish to compare too, so maybe the species has a different name? If anyone can confirm it's as described or knows a more specific species for it, that would be great. Thanks
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Call for help to ID, a piece of Dino Bone with special marks on the bone surface. It's roughly 15 cm long, and was dug out from Southern China, near Myanmar. It's with very little surrounding rocks. Gut feeling it's part of woodstone or tree fossil, then figured out there is layer of bone shell, and the marks on the surface seems very distinctive for bone fossils, maybe from dinosaur skin. Look forward to your comments, a new memeber of the forum, thanks.
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Hello guys . I need some help. I just bought some eggs (i think) they were not to expensive so i had to take the risk before someone else got them I will try to post them one at a time Thanks in advance
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Iffy about this because China fossils are often fake, but it's being sold from a collection outside of China (exported in 80s). Described as "restored and glued and protected with B72" 17cm x 15 by 13. Vague location beyond "Cretaceous China" What's the consensus? Fake, composite or the real deal? Edit. Just realised I put in wrong forum. Should be in the is it fake section.