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Saurichthys Triassic China
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Thinking about purchasing this specimen Saurichthys, Triassic China, but want to make sure it checks out.- 11 replies
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Hello, I just joined this forum. Back in the early 2000s I bought a few dino eggs, they came from China. Since then, as I understand, China has cracked down on export of fossils/eggs, it's illegal to export them. Eggs are now more expensive and harder do get. Of course there are a lot of fakes on online so one needs to be careful. I read prior posts here about eggs with pics of fakes and genuine ones. Below are two Hadrosaur eggs I saw online, and wanted opinions if they are genuine or not. They look legit to me but I'm no expert. I assume it's not illegal to sell/buy these eggs within the USA, at least the ones already here.
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Hi! I wanna know about species of this chinese trilobite. it from guizhou Province, China. Could you kindly provide information on the specific species of Chinese trilobite?
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It’s from Hubei, China and no age is given other than Ordovician. Apologies for the blurry images, it’s been shipped to somewhere else for a bit.
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Real and bad preserved, or carved and paint Keichousaurus ?
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Hello, i saw this Keichousaurus from Gouizhou, China, on auction today and think theres something wrong about it. The bones look like If they're carved from one piece, the toes look paint. But im not sure If its a complete fake. Because many of the structures seem to be real, but badly preserved. Also, i dont know how common it was in the 1980/90's to fake Keichous. Thats when it was found. So what do you think about it, is it a real and bad preserved one, a 50/50, or a complete fake ? Thanks for any advise ! (The seller didnt made that many close up pictures from different angles, sadly) -
Yangchuanosaurus Theropod Tooth From Shaximiao Formation, Zigong, Sichuan Province, China?
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Hello, I would like to know if this tooth may possibly be from Yangchuanosaurus species. It is from the Shaximiao Formation, Zigong, Sichuan Province, China Formation is Jurassic age and relatively very little material is known from this formation and particularly in China although seems like Yangchuanosaurus has been described from this location et al. (1978) named Yangchuanosaurus shangyouensis on the basis of CV 00215, a complete skull and skeleton which was collected from the Shangshaximiao Formation, near Yongchuan, Yongchuan District, Sichuan. Tooth measures less than 2 inches and the serrations appears too worn to make an ideal identification, although looking at teeth from skulls of Yangchuanosaurus, they do seem very similar , in shape and size Any help would be appreciated! Thanks! -
Hi everyone! I saw these for sale listed as "Sabretooth cat upper molars from the gansu province of china", which is really cool since I've always wanted sabre cat material but I have no experience with these fossils (since they are unreasonably difficult to find/ get a hold of) so I'm hoping the forum can give a second opinion on the ID and point out any potential funny business (besides the obvious repaired break on one, which I'm okay with). Size isn't listed, but I have contacted the seller asking about that and am awaiting a response. Any insight is appreciated as always!
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There's tons of images of all kind of Keichousaurus specimens online, but I couldn't find a single image/video of where do they find them or how are they extracted. Does anybody know where this kind of material can be found? Disclaimer: It is common knowledge that most (?) Keichousaurus are found in China, the question doesn't go in that direction.
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Howdy! I read over the thread on dinosaur eggs and I'm still not sure if these are real. These two eggs supposedly come from the nanxiong formation of ganzhou China. They are being sold from South Korea.The texture of the egg shell looks like it could be Oviraptor. Is it suspicious that both eggs are listed as being the same size 18 x13 cm? Thanks.
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Taxonomy from Fossilworks.org. From Wen et. al. 2019, p. 4: "Emended diagnosis (Bürgin, 1992, 1996; Neuman & Mutter, 2005). – Small to large-sized (52–600 mm in total length) actinopterygians. Elongate fusiform body with a deeply forked, equilobate and hemi-heterocercal caudal fin. Dorsal and anal fins segmented entirely. Head characterized by a large and broad preoperculum and a maxilla with a long and narrow posterior plate. Dermohyal present. The terminal axial scale lobe reaches over half of the upper caudal fin lobe length. No epaxial rays. Fin rays branch distally. Fringing fulcra on the surfaces of marginal fin rays. Scales with smooth surfaces and serrated posterior border." Line drawing from Wen et al. 2019, p. 9: References: Bürgin, T. (1992). Basal ray-finned fishes (Osteichthyes; Actinopterygii) from the Middle Triassic of Monte San Giorgio (Canton Tessin, Switzerland). Schweizerische Paläontologische Abhandlungen 114, 1–164. Bürgin, T. (1996). Diversity in the feeding apparatus of perleidid fishes (Actinopterygii) from the Middle Triassic of Monte San Giorgio (Switzerland). In Mesozoic Fishes – Systematics and Paleoecology (eds G. Arratia & G. Viohl), pp. 555–65. Munich: Pfeil. Mutter, R. J. (2005). Re-assessment of the genus Helmolepis Stensiö 1932 (Actinopterygii: Platysiagidae) and the evolution of platysiagids in the Early-Middle Triassic. Eclogae Geologicae Helvetiae 98, 271–80. WEN W, HU SX, ZHANG QY, et al. (2019). A new species of Platysiagum from the Luoping Biota (Anisian, Middle Triassic, Yunnan, South China) reveals the relationship between Platysiagidae and Neopterygii. Geological Magazine. 156(4):669-682.
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From the album: Invertebrates
Jiania crebra Wang, Szwedo & Zhang, 2012 Hemiptera Froghopper Middle Jurassic Daohugou Inner Mongolia PRC-
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A remarkable marine archosauromorph from the Middle Triassic of southwestern China
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Fossil reveals 240 million year-old dragon' By Victoria Gill, BBC News, February 22, 2024 The open access paper is: Spiekman, N.S.F., Wang, w., Zhao. L., Rieppell, O., Fraser, N.C, and Li, C., 2024, Dinocephalosaurus orientalis Li, 2003: a remarkable marine archosauromorph from the Middle Triassic of southwestern China. Earth and Environmental Science Journal Transactions of The Royal Society of Edinburgh , First View Published online by Cambridge University Press: 23 February 2024, pp. 1-33. A related paper is: Lu, Y.T. and Liu, J., 2023. A new tanystropheid (Diapsida: Archosauromorpha) from the Middle Triassic of SW China and the biogeographical origin of Tanystropheidae. Journal of Systematic Palaeontology, 21(1), p.2250778. More related papers Yours, Paul H.- 3 replies
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A Cretaceous frog with eggs found in northwestern China
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Ancient frog had a belly full of eggs in oldest fossil discovery of its kind. This unusual frog fossil seems to be an amphibian that died in the process of mating by Matthew Rozsa, Salon February 9, 2024 The open access paper is: Baoxia Du, Jing Zhang, Raúl Orencio Gómez, Liping , Mingzhen Zhang, Xiangtong Lei , Aijing Li, and Shuang Dai, 2024, A cretaceous frog with egg from northwestern China provides fossil evidence for sexual maturity preceding skeletal maturity in anurans. Proceedings of the Royal Society B, Biological Sciences, https://doi.org/10.1098/rspb.2023.2320 Yours, Paul -
Lycoptera fossil plate
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The Growing Collection of Polybranchiaspidida
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Hello to everyone! I'm new here, but I really love this forum! It has really great vibes and you instantly can tell that this is a good and friendly community! My English is not good,I hope everyone can be more tolerant. I am Polybranchiaspidida, I live in China.So I many of my fossils are from China. In this topic I will show my collection of fossils(and maybe some other interesting things)- 136 replies
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Shellfish, ... but what kind? Guizhou Province, China. Ordovician period. They are from Suiyang County, Zunyi City, Guizhou Province, China I think they should be some shellfish, but I would like to get more information about them. Thanks!
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Keicho - no shoulder blades, no pelvis...?
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No shoulder blades or pelvis are visible. Just a matter of presentation/preparation, or someone sort of forgot such annoying details while carving/painting a fake?- 10 replies
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Fossilied musculature of an early Cambrian cycloneuralian animal
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Early Cambrian microfossils preserve introvert musculature of cycloneuralians The open access paper is: Zhang, H., Xiao, S., Eriksson, M.E., Duan, B. and Maas, A., 2023. Musculature of an Early Cambrian cycloneuralian animal. Proceedings of the Royal Society B, 290(2008), p.20231803. Yours, Paul H. -
Wudinolepis weni, tiny Microbrachiid placoderms from the early Devonian Jiucheng Fm. In Yunnan China. Specimens measure just over 1 cm in length, 2 are present on this piece, one exposed dorsally and the other ventrally. Preparation done by Paul Freitag
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I recently acquired three tooth fossils from southwestern China initially labeled as a "Plesiosaurus indet." tooth. The specific locality of the tooth fossils is the Lower Shaximiao Formation, Zigong, Sichuan, China. The age of the Lower Shaximiao formation ranges from Early to Middle Jurassic. The only known plesiosaur species from the Shaximiao formation is Bishanopliosaurus zigongensis, a rhomaleosaurus. If these three tooth are indeed identified as a plesiosaur tooth, they probably belong to Bishanopliosaurus sp. Can anyone help me to identify whether these teeth are plesiosaur teeth?
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Hello! I asked this question in the Facebook group so I apologize if any of you are seeing it for a second time, but it was buried in a comment chain so I’m hoping to get a few more expert eyes on it. I received this beautifully prepared Keichousaurus today and it’s truly awesome to see it in person, but now that I’m able to inspect it more closely I’m thinking it may be a composite. There are a few things making me lean that direction: 1) There is an obvious mismatch in the patterns on the matrix, both front and back, when comparing the chunk that the body is on to the chunk that the skull is on. For example, the partial fish fossil on the righthand side just abruptly stops at the seam (last photo, blue arrow) … but it’s maybe possible that this is due to variable flaking/weathering and reattachment 2) The head is dorsal while the body is ventral … but I know it’s possible for this to happen naturally if the neck is twisted 3) The white “veins” that appear to run across both plates (skull and body) are, I think, true calcite veins in one plate and scratches intentionally placed to match on the other. For example, the red arrow in the last photo points to a junction where a true calcite vein from the body plate should cross the skull, but no vein is visible in the skull. A “vein” reappears above the skull but I believe this is just a surface scratch. On the other hand, the skull is perfectly sized and aligned to the “horns” (retroarticular processes) present on the body plate. This seems incredibly difficult to achieve in a fossil of this size. This specimen was prepared in the US and I have no reason to believe the skull is fake, but the uniform spacing and shape of the teeth also looks off to me. That may just be due to incomplete preparation of the area, I can’t tell even under 10x magnification. In any case it’s beautiful to look at, I was just a little disappointed to see that it may be a composite. What are your thoughts?
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Hello, I’m looking for Zhuchengtyrannus tooth. does anyone know anything? If you don’t mind, please let me know. Thank you! I am using translation.
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A newly described archosauromorph specimen from the lower Middle Triassic from Luoping, Yunnan in southwestern China was found and described as a new species Austronaga minuta. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austronaga The type specimen is like this: Another look-alike skull is found at the same locality, is it also an Austronaga minuta?
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