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This is an unprepped ichthyosaur from Luoping, Yunnnan Province of China. It measures 70cm in length. Any idea which species is that? And the completeness of the fossil?
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Fossil Fish from China - Real, Altered or Fake?
protosauropod posted a topic in Is It Real? How to Recognize Fossil Fabrications
My mom purchased this fish when she was in Taiwan. She's a little suspicious that it has at very least been embellished. I've also attached the label it had. Thank you for any help!
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This Adcrocuta skull is from Hezheng of China. Is it genuine? And note the ‘mark’ on the left canine, is it cracks or marking?
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This is an incomplete specimen of marine reptile from Luoping, Yunnan Province of China. Triassic. Any idea what is the species? It looks like Diandongosaurus.
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I recently saw the pictured Keichousaurus for sale from China. Considering the sheer amount of fakes I very skeptical however, they, for the most part, are in uncommon positions and show good removal of the matrix. Are these authentic or have the dealers in China upped their game on fakes.
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Two headed Hyphalosaurus
Crazyhen posted a topic in Is It Real? How to Recognize Fossil Fabrications
Do you think this two-headed Hyphalosaurus is a composite or that it is in fact two individuals with overlapped body (I see quite a lot of bones in abdomen)?
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Fungi might have lived on land earlier than thought. Tiny pyritized fossils over 600 million years old http://www.sci-news.com/paleontology/ediacaran-fungi-09298.html
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Keichousaurus good or bad
Fotsirk posted a topic in Is It Real? How to Recognize Fossil Fabrications
Hello does this looks good or bad. I know these are not rare but good quality is pretty hard to find. So i hope this is real deal Thanks
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Is this a genuine dinosaur limb? It is found from Ganzhou of Jiangxi, China. Late Cretaceous formation. The matrix is about 50cm in length.
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This piece was found at Quqing, Yunnan of China. It’s Devonian formation. I’d it a segment of pterygotus?
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Is this a genuine egg? Of a small dinosaur or reptile? It was found in Ganzhou of China, Cretaceous Formation.
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This is a specimen from Luoping, Yunnan Province of China. Triassic. It looks like a conifer. Is it a plant fossil ? Plant fossils are rarely found in the Triassic formation there.
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Caudipteryx from Liaoning, China
Crazyhen posted a topic in Is It Real? How to Recognize Fossil Fabrications
The specimen below is said to be a Caudipteryx, not sure if it's a C. zoui or C. dongi. Is it a genuine one? Or a very good replica?
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This bone is about 70cm in length. It is from Ganzhou, Jiangxi Province of China in which a lot of dinosaur eggs were found. Cretaceous Formation. Is it a dinosaur bone?
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I got a this fossil piece that is supposedly "Melodon major". with the knowledge that local people would always try to put the broken and/or deformed pieces together, just to make it look more appealing in the market. It seems to me that the occlusion of the front teeth looks "original", and so does the skull, as the cervical vertebra was not visible until I removed the clays (I assume people would not fake something that is not visible). The cheekbone looks kind of unnatural and was probably "assembled", as it is protruding and tends to break off. However, the lower jaw bones, or at least one side of it, looks too big to fit the upper one. I removed the clays beneath it to reveal the plaster in it, so I know at least the clays is not original. People had to stuff in a lot plaster (maybe just to provide the strength). My question is, could the lower jaw bone (or one side if it, as the two sides look quite different) is from another individual melodon, or even some other species (like some dog)? Is the occlusion really convincingly "natural". I am uploading a few pics here first. I could do more "trimming" and take more photos if needed for ID.
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Stunningly preserved ‘Cretaceous Pompeii’ fossils may not be what they seem By Mindy Weisberger, Live science https://www.livescience.com/agu-dinosaurs-3d-cretaceous-pompeii.html The talk is: Chen, E., MacLennan, S., Kinney, S., Chang, C., Olsen, P., Sha, J., Fang, Y., Liu, J. and Shoene, B., 2020, December. A New Look at the Lujiatun: Dinosaur Attrition in Burrows, Not a Cretaceous Pompeii and Not a Shoreline to the Jianshangou Lake. In AGU Fall Meeting 2020. AGU. https://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/sites/default/files/u1748/Chen_Abstract.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20201219230210/https://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/sites/default/files/u1748/Chen_Abstract.pdf Related paper: Rogers, C.S., Hone, D.W., McNamara, M.E., Zhao, Q., Orr, P.J., Kearns, S.L. and Benton, M.J., 2015. The Chinese Pompeii? Death and destruction of dinosaurs in the Early Cretaceous of Lujiatun, NE China. Palaeogeography, Palaeoclimatology, Palaeoecology, 427, pp.89-99. https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/82369398.pdf https://www.researchgate.net/publication/274902952_The_Chinese_Pompeii_Death_and_destruction_of_dinosaurs_in_the_Early_Cretaceous_of_Lujiatun_NE_China https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Christopher_Rogers2 Yours, Paul H.
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Can you suffer yet another keichousaurus-related question, and a twin one as that? These two are being offered on an auction site by different and continents-apart sellers. Both sellers are located outside China, so unless they both rely on triangulation operations it would appear that the problems related to the Chinese fossil export ban have already been solved one way or another. Item #1 is 24cm long, item #2 16 cm. Bidding on both is currently very low. Do you see reasons to regard any of these two critters (or both) as suspicious or anyway to be avoided? If noth, which one should I try and go for? Thanks in advance
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Haven't had time to post here lately, but I carved out a slot so here we go. In April of last year (2019), I had a chance to visit China. When I was in Beijing, one of my goals was to see the feathered dinos. I visited two museums that had them. One was the Geological Museum of China. The other (The Beijing Museum of Natural History) will be the subject of another post. I took hundreds of pictures there, but I can't post them all here. I have selected some of the better ones, focusing on the feathered critters. You'll have to excuse the lighting and quality of some of them. The light was low in parts of the museum and I had to shoot through glass most of the time. An Iphone was my camera and I've had to shrink them to fit on here. It was a great museum and they had so much to see besides the fossils. This greets you when you walk in along with some other fossils and minerals. The verts are from a Shantungosaurus giganteus Hu, (a hadrosaurid) found in Shandong Province in 1973.The other guy is a Lufengosaurus magnus (Young). Don't know the rest of the details other than 1957 year. Representing The Fossil Forum with my t-shirt. First up is Caudipteryx zoui Ji et al, Early Cretaceous, Beipiao, Liaoning Province. Next is Enantionithes gen et sp indet, Early Cretaceous, Lingyuan, Liaoning. Liaoxiornis delicatus Hou et Chen, Early Cretaceous, Lingyuan, Liaoning. Next are several specimens of Confusiosornis sanctus Hou et al, Early Cretaceous, Beipiao, Liaoning. The darker shaded area is the shadow of my phone, sorry. continued....
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Unidentified plant from Jiufotang Formation of Sihedang, Lingyuan, Liaoning
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Hello, I have an unidentified plant from the Jiufotang Formation of Sihedang, Lingyuan, Liaoning Province I acquired this plant as a Baiera sp. However, due to the way it was preserved, I cannot tell if it has the characteristic "split-vein" lobes of Ginkgoales. Also problematic is that Baiera sp. from Jiufotang seem to come in a wide variety of shapes Here are two pics of Baiera sp. from China. There is also a paywalled article A new species of Baiera from the Early Cretaceous Jehol Biota of southeastern Jilin, China so I'd appreciate if anyone can share info from it Anyway, there is also Liaoningocladus boii from the Jehol Biota which is a close match for my plant What do you guys think? If you suspect it's another plant genus, please feel free to tell me. Thank you
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Good evening folks. I have an ammonite that I've had for many years and until today I didn't mess with it. I semi prepped it an in the process I noticed (what appears to be) a "bite" mark on the outer shell. Can anyone confirm this for me?
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Is this Keichousaurus authentic?
Dendrocursor posted a topic in Is It Real? How to Recognize Fossil Fabrications
Hello everyone, I´m new to the forum and I would like to thank you for allowing me to enter. You see, I am fond of paleontology and to tell the truth something of a novice, I have a small collection of fossils that still continues to grow today, I´m very interested in Mesozoic fossils, but even more so in creatures that are not dinosaurs. One of the specimens that I dream of having in my collection to study and enjoy is Keichousaurus. As well we should all know (And I hope not to bother you, because I notice that the topic is quite frequent in the forum) Keichousaurus is one of the most falsified fossils, but I still have the hope of obtaining an authentic specimen. Today in the morning I was looking between pages and I found this specimen that has not yet been cleaned or prepared (supposedly) and the truth is that I have doubts as to whether or not it is an authentic piece. I hope that with your wisdom you can guide me, thank you very much for your attention
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I am thinking of buying these 2 frog specimens from “Jiamusi” in China, do they look real or are they fake?
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Oviraptor (elongatoolithid) eggs from Henan, China (an old collection). 65-72 mya. Eggs are 5.75 and 3.75 inches long, 1 and a half eggs. Have been prepared and stabilized. Thoughts on the veracity?
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Feline skull from Miocene of Gansu (China), Composite?
ziggycardon posted a topic in Is It Real? How to Recognize Fossil Fabrications
Hi everyone, I just recieved this skull which I bought as an impulse buy. I normally do some research before I buy anything and I usually try to stay clear from fossils from China, but this skull got the better of me and without thinking it through I purchased it. I bought the skull as a Felis sp. skull found in the Gianhe Beds, Gansu Province, China (Miocene, 10 mya). I've been wanting some feline or mustelid material for quite some time and I bought this specimen without keeping a clear head, knowing all to well in the back of my head that many of these fossils are composites, not to mention the legality of most vertebrate fossils from China. Kinda feel like an idiot right now And besides all that I am not entirely convinced of it being Feline after all, could be a Mustelid as well, or just a Frankenstein monster. Here are some photo's of the skull, it is all by all a relatively nice skull, but I believe there composite elements to it. Here are the area's that I suspect where there might have been repears or composition. These teeth seem off to me, they look quite big for the skull, and Felis sp. jaws normally don't have this many teeth in the lower jaw. This type of dentition looks more alligned with those of Mustelids (of which a number where present duing the Miocene of this area). I'll probably try to prep the teeth a little bit more in the coming days to see if I can expose some roots of sort. There is an area that has some strange coloration and texture, I believe some repairs or composition that they have tried to hide. This area has quite a strange texture and color, I am quite positive that this was added in. (Maybe with some modern bone of plaster), I'll probably have a look with the microscope tomorrow. For the rest, some good points of the skulls: Each lower jaw looks okay, both side of the lower jaw have imperfections and fractures that run from one end to the other. (Only the front area that is circled looks like it is composite) Some goes for the front part of the skull, all seems natural and okay untill it hits the bit in the middle of the skull that I circled. One of the canine teeth looks to be original as well, with the root that goes into the skull as it should be, some goes for on of the first 2 premolars in the right lower jaw and the first one in the left jaw. It are the rest of the teeth of which I have doubts if they are natural and not placed in, as well as the front jaw piece with the incisors and some area's of the backside of the skull. I hope some here might give me some clarity how much of this specimen is a composite and whether it is Feline of Mustelid. I just hope I didn't bumb my toes to hard on this skull, at least it will be lesson for the future..jpg.f40ead49dce7c9bd22f13ceac7ec0d39.jpg)
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Is this trilobite genuine? Any idea which species it is?
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