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Pleistocene-Holocene distribution of large Eagles and Hawks (Accipitridae) on island environments
Joseph Fossil posted a topic in General Fossil Discussion
After doing some research a few weeks back on the distribution of the extinct Haast's eagle (Hieraaetus moorei), I discovered there was a much larger array of large Accipitridae on island environments than I previously realized (the result of island gigantism) during the Pleistocene-Early Holocene. Sadly, many of these animals are now extinct asa result of direct human hunting or hunting of their food sources by the early-late Holocene. I've decided to make a quick list of all those I've identified, which hopefully can demonstrate the diversity these magnificent animals had during the Pleistocene-Early Holocene. Let me know if I forget any examples. New Zealand - Haast's eagle (Hieraaetus moorei) (Pleistocene-late Holocene (At least 1450 A.D.)) Eyles's Harrier (Circus teauteensis) (Pleistocene-Holocene) Crete - Cretan subspecies of the Golden Eagle (Aquila chrysaetos simurgh) (late Pleistocene) Cuba - Gigantohierax suarezi (Holocene) (0.012-0.005 years ago) Gigantohierax itchei (Holocene) (0.012-0.005 years ago) Borras's eagle-hawk (Buteogallus borrasi) (Pleistocene-early Holocene) Bahamas - Bahamian Titan Hawk (Titanohierax gloveralleni) (Pleistocene-Holocene) Hispaniolan Titan Hawk (Titanohierax sp.) (Pleistocene-Holocene) New Caledonia - Powerful goshawk (Accipiter efficax) Madagascar - Malagasy crowned eagle (Stephanoaetus mahery) (Pleistocene-late Holocene (at least 1500 A.D.)) Hawaii - Haliaeetus sp. (either new Haliaeetus species or a subspecies of the extant White-tailed Eagle (Haliaeetus albicilla)) (Pleistocene-Holocene) What do you guys think?- 1 reply
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The Pleistocene-Holocene distribution of Unique Crocodilians (Crocodilia) Worldwide
Joseph Fossil posted a topic in General Fossil Discussion
The Crocodilians (Crocodilia) are a resilient group of reptiles, with the order originating around the Late Cretaceous 95 million years ago and still very prevalent globally in many aquatic ecosystems. But it was not too long ago that this group was even more diverse. Though way more diverse between the Paleocene-Pilocene eras between 64-2 Million years ago, the Crocodylomorpha (mainly Crocodillians) were still fairly diverse during the Pleistocene-Early Holocene eras - more diverse than they are today. This lack of diversity today is mainly due to the climate change that occurred between the Pleistocene and Holocene and (Unfortunately) overexploitation by Humans. Human induced Climate change since the Industrial Revolution and direct overexploitation by people still plagues many crocodilians today. It is only because of global Conservation efforts that some of the most endangered crocodilians today have a fighting chance at survival. I've decided to make a quick list of the unique crocodilians of the Pleistocene-Early(to part late) Holocene which can hopefully demonstrate the diversity of these magnificent animals during this time. Let me know if I forgot any examples. Australia - Quinkana fortirostrum (Pliocene-Pleistocene) Possible Unnamed Quinkana sp. (Possibly Q.fortirostrum) (Queensland Museum Specimen QM F57032) (Note: Quinkana could have grown to between 10-20 feet in length) Paludirex vincenti (Pliocene-Pleistocene 5.3-0.012 years ago) (Note: Plaudirex species could grow up to 4 meters (13 feet) in length) Paludirex gracilis (Pliocene-Pleistocene 5.3-0.012 years ago) (Note: Plaudirex species could grow up to 4 meters (13 feet) in length) Gunggamarandu manunala (Pliocene-Pleistocene 5-2 Million years ago) (Note: Gunggamarandu manunala could have grown up to 7 meters (23 feet) in length) Japan - Toyotamaphimeia machikanensis (Pleistocene 0.8-0.1 years ago) (Note: Toyotamaphimeia machikanensis could have grown up to 7.7 meters (25 feet) in length) Taiwan - Unnamed Toyotamaphimeia sp. (Pleistocene 0.8-0.1 years ago) China - Hanyusuchus sinensis (Early-Late Holocene (up to the 1400s A.D. around 600 years ago)) (Note: Hanyusuchus sinensis could grow up to 6 meters (19 feet) in length) Africa - Euthecodon brumpti (Pilocene-Early Pleistocene 3.5-0.781 Thousand years ago) (Note: Euthecodon brumpti could grow up to 10 meters (33 feet) in length) Crocodylus thorbjarnarsoni (Pliocene to Pleistocene 5.3-1.8 Million years ago) (Note: Crocodylus thorbjarnarsoni could grow up to 7.6 meters (25 feet) in length) Crocodylus anthropophagus (Pleistocene 1.845-1.839 Million years ago) (Note: Crocodylus anthropophagus could grow up to 7.5 meters (25 feet) in length) Madagascar - Voay robustus (Late Pleistocene-Holocene 0.1-0.01 years ago) (Note: Voay robust could grow up to 5 meters (16.4 feet) in length) Thailand - Gavialis bengawanicus (Early-Middle Pleistocene) Indonesia - Gavialis bengawanicus (Early-Middle Pleistocene) New Caleodonia - Mekosuchus inexpectatus (Holocene 0.012-0.004 years ago) (Note: Mekosuchus species could grow up to 2 meters (6 feet) in length) Fiji - Volia athollandersoni (Late Pleistocene-Early Holocene) (Note: Volia athollandersoni could grow up to 3 meters (10 feet) in length) Vanuatu - Mekosuchus kalpokasi (Holocene 0.012-0.003 years ago) (Note: Mekosuchus species could grow up to 2 meters (6 feet) in length) New Guinea - Murua gharial (Ikanogavialis papuensis) (Late Pleistocene-Early Holocene) What do you guys think?-
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Hi Guys! Hopefully someone can help. I found what I assume to be fossils of SOMETHING while snorkeling in Cuba this summer . I’ve asked around and nobody seems to be able to identify them. The curiosity is killing me lol they look almost like teeth or beak parts but I really have no clue
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While reading a book about Mesozoic reptiles by Dougal Dixon, I was dumbstruck to read to Jurassic deposits in western Cuba have yielded pterosaur fossils, including the rhamphorhynchids Cacibupteryx and Nesodactylus. Years later, however, I also found out that ground sloths, ammonites, flightless owls, rodents, plesiosaurs, thalattosuchians, and ichthyosaurs have also been found in Mesozoic and Pleistocene deposits in Cuba. Did you ask any paleontology and fossil fans when they first learned that Cuba has yielded fossil tetrapods from marine and Pleistocene deposits?
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Very rare find a Cuban Necronectes collinsi. This is only the third example I have seen come out of the limestone of the Canimar formation in the last 12 years.
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I’m looking into this wonderful 5.59” Cuban tooth, but I’m having a hard time figuring out if it’s a meg or chub. It has cusps, but they’re minimal and not very obvious. Seller says it dates from early to middle Miocene, though that’s not very helpful in identifying this tooth. I’m thinking chub due to the cusps existing, but I’d like to gather more opinions on the matter.
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It has been awhile since I have been on FF and decided I would post this beautiful Cuban Megalodon Tooth I finished cleaning up last week.
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Fossils of New Vulture Species Found in Cubaby Enrico de Lazaro, Previous, Sci News, Jan 13, 2021 "A new species of small vulture that lived during the Quaternary period in the Greater Antilles has been identified from fossils found in western Cuba." The paper is: Suárez, W. and Olson, S.L., 2020. A new fossil vulture (Cathartidae: Cathartes) from Quaternary asphalt and cave deposits in Cuba. Bulletin of the British Ornithologists’ Club, 140(3), pp.335-343. Yours, Paul H.
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Hello everyone, I'd like to share my extreme budget collection of exotic megs/shark teeth so far, I've have been collecting shark teeth and other for a little over a year and a half now on an extremely tight budget and have been surprised by what I was able to get a hold of so far. Condition doesn't bother me hence the budget but I have been able to find some megs from from interesting locations over the short period of time I've been collecting with a little bit of luck. Locations include Puerto Rico, Cuba, Japan, Hawaii, Morocco, Mexico, Peru, and The Phillipines. Anyone else out there with extreme budget rare finds especially shark teeth (or from generally exotic locations), feel free to share and I'd love to see! In order of pictures: 1) Two megs and a hemi from Isabella, Puerto Rico 2) meg from Hawaii (Restored) 3) great white from Japan 4) meg from Morocco 5) meg from Cuba (unfortunately stuck on a wood plate but still a lovely display piece) 6) meg from the Phillipines 7) cubutensis from Peru 8) 2 Makos from Mexico 9 & 10) Heavily and horribly restored 5.9 inch Chilean meg (funny story with this one had an even worse restoration on it with made it look no different from a replica, was suspicious and bought it and when attempting a horrible derestoration process and a few slight touch ups of my own a large chilean meg was hiding under the mess, still needs a tad bit of work but I still love I was able to snag a large one cheap in this day and age ) @WhodamanHD Here we go uploaded !
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Hi in February i will be going to Cuba for a week, and am wondering is there any fossils in Varadero cuba? thanks!
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Sorry for picture quality, but can anyone help identify this fish found in Matanzas, Cuba? The last picture with fish sitting on top of limestone block has lines drawn on it approximately 3” apart for some type of scale.
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Hi I was just at my aunts house and in her house I found a ammonite I asked her where it was from and she said she got it in Cuba which made me wonder what creatures lived in Cuba in the Mesozoic I found out In the Jurassic there where Pliesiosaurs, Ichthyosaurs and ammonites and lots of pterosaurs also there has been some dinosaurs too which surprised me because I thought Cuba was under water there’s a few remains of sauropods a Camarasaur and a Diplodocus like sauropod some more fragmented Sauropod bones and some bones of a unknown Saurischian also some unknown reptile bones have been found too I hope this helps with the Mesozoic creatures of Cuba this is my first informational post Thanks!!
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I found this fossil in Guantanamo, Bay, Cuba. It was in the wall of a road cutout. I’ve looked online and been unable to find any as large. If anyone can tell me more information about it, that would be great. The hinges are intact and working. Thank you
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Hello all, I'm going to Cuba in a few weeks and, if possible, would like to acquire some Cuban megalodon teeth while over there. I've done a little research but have only turned up what the formation is called that they are generally found in. Considering that I'll only have about 3 days there, I'm not against just buying them from locals if they're available. Does anyone have any knowledge of where I should go outside of the formation itself (not even sure if I'd have access to it)? Anyone know if its possible to dig there?
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This tooth is the biggest tooth I have seen come out of Cuba, it is a huge primary tooth. I will have to get Matty Swilp to restore the tooth when it arrives.
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No, I din't find megaladon or anything valuble, sorry. One item (was founded in the rocks) that looks definetely like fossil is: My questions are about the other things I found in the ocean: 1. I hope these teeth didn't belong to goat or pig, but i am not sure that there are fossils. 2. I found some nice pieces, but again, not sure that these fossils. For me it looks mostly like construction material. Kind of concrete with shells and corals. 3. Whats that? 4. Are there "modern" corals or fossils? I will really appreciate your help. Thank you! P.S. I have the other item, but can download just 10 picts
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Just the last question. Could it be piece of fossil (wood)? It was whole piece. I thought its a metal. My friend tryed to prove that its not .... and now its 2 pieces :-)