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Dear All, I just wanted to make you all aware, (to my detriment) , some recent experiences I've has with purchasing Megalodon Teeth from Indonesia. This is not a name and shame post, simply my experiences with a 'grey area'. I've purchased many teeth recently and most are 100% A ok. However, the dealers are fully aware of the value realized from 5.5 inch plus teeth and this has resulted in a swathe of monster teeth being offered to the market. Now, I'm an idiot and need no reminding, but I fell for this trick about a month ago. The seller seemed genuine enough and the transaction was carried out Via PayPal, so I had insurance. After purchasing 3 or 4 decent teeth she started to offer me massive 6.5 and sometimes 7 inch teeth that had a ''tiny bit of restoration' to the root. I looked long and hard at the photos and concluded that the blades look ok but the roots likely completely restored. I was happy with this and so took a punt. The 4 teeth arrived and I decided to let Mr. Acetone do his worse. I was interested to see if indeed it was just the roots that had been restored. It became obvious that all these teeth had been manipulated to look a lot bigger than they were - extending the blade length using donor parts. The quality of work is actually pretty impressive. I just wanted to make you all aware. Luckily PayPal had me covered but they begged me to do a "Friends and Family'' transaction. If the price is too good to be true...well... Be careful, they are faking a lot of other fossils, such as crabs too.
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Is this a real or fake rhino horn?
-Andy- posted a topic in Is It Real? How to Recognize Fossil Fabrications
Hi all, I was recently gifted a lovely fossil from a friend. He told me it comes from a reliable digger from Sangiran and it is a rhino horn. However, I have my doubts Rhino horns as I understand, are made of keratin which means they do not fossilize easily. Also, this fossil here is almost surely a bone. My friend tells me it is permineralized keratin but I am not sure if I agree with that. While there are indeed lines that flow from the base to the tip, I can't tell if they are carved or not My friend mentioned this is a river find, hence the dark coloration. I rubbed it with acetone and revealed a different color underneath. I am 95% sure this is not wood however as there are no wood grains and the weight is more consistent with bone What leads me to the conclusion that this is a real bone and not wood is the cross section. There is actual bone structure here So, what is this "horn" exactly? My guess right now is that it is an actual bone (judging from the base) that was carved into the shape of a horn. There is a honeycomb pattern which you can see on the base. Traces of this pattern can be seen exposed by acetone. Perhaps most of the honeycomb surface pattern was destroyed by carving? Anyway, I could be totally wrong. Maybe this is indeed a true fossil rhino horn and I am just over-paranoid. I would like your thoughts please, thank you -
Hi all, I bought this from a car boot sale, from a seller who sells fossil's. The seller said it is a spinosauraus tooth. I had a look online and saw that spinosauraus teeth are typically rounder, whilst this is very pointed and quite thin. The seller did sell larger round ones, as well as these smaller more narrow teeth. I chose this one as it was the least broken. I can't really identify what a fake tooth would look like. Could someone tell me if they think this is a real tooth or not?
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I am considering buying this stegodon jaw section. I am looking for a good one for quiet some time now. Came across this one, has one little repair (marked) but i don't know about the rest
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Spinosaurus tooth authenticity
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Hello there. I'm new to fossil collecting and just wanted some help with identifying if this is a real spinosaurus tooth or not. The seller advertised it as real and claims it comes from Morocco. I was recommended this seller, and they've got good reviews, but I think I'm just a bit paranoid after reading a lot of stories about fake fossils. Unfortunately I can't remove it from it's case so I can't show off all the angles. Any help is much appreciated. I'm also new to this site, so if I'm doing this wrong, I apologise! -
Basilosaurus lower jaw part
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I not too long ago bought this piece. The seller told me it was an authentic Juvenile Basilosaurus jaw. But I am a bit worried it's not real since a lot of jaw parts can be casted or faked. Can anybody help me? Size is about 15CM- 2 replies
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Fake or real brown meg tooth
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Came across this 6 inch Megalodon tooth on the internet. I have suspect this is a replica since the colors seem off to me but not sure. Its also stupid cheap or a clear replica.- 7 replies
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On reddit, i was told my Keichousaurus was called an "atrocious glue up" i cant see any issue, but i want to see if you guys can diagnose any issue the little critter has, and suggest ways to resolve them. This rlly concerns me, any help is appreciated.
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Is this Keichosaurus real?
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Came across this piece on the internet. While I doubt it's entirely fake. Something is not right with this one, I just don't know what
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Is this Megalodon tooth real?
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Hi, my brother got me a Megalodon tooth for me birthday. He said he bought it from a seller here in the netherlands. It supposed to be from S. Carolina We both are asking us ourselves if it's legit or not? -
Examples of Commonly Faked Dino Eggs
HamptonsDoc posted a topic in Is It Real? How to Recognize Fossil Fabrications
Every day I look through a collection of websites and online auctions for any good deals on dinosaur fossils. Occasionally a real steal of a deal is found, but when it comes to eggs most of what I see is fake. Counterfeit dinosaur eggs are continually found, mostly being sold by the same sellers from China and Malaysia. I personally fell for this trap last year and spent a lot of money on "eggs" that were man made. This is a topic that is brought up every few months on this thread to warn fellow collectors and I think its time again to repost what many others have posted before. There was a good short article that was written by Bill Merz and distributed at last year's Tucson Gem and Mineral Show in the EZ-Guide where he points out some of the most common examples of mass manufactured fake eggs.- 125 replies
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Fake root at this carcharodontosaur tooth
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Hello all, I think I wasted my money. Please try to check if the root of this tooth is completely fake? I see the top of the tooth was added with to the end of the tooth but the root is some king of stone? Thank you. Best regards.- 9 replies
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Carcharodontosaurus teeth - serrations
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Hey all, The serrations on this cacharodontosaurtooth seem to be fake. Am I correct? Thank you for helping out! -
Real or Fake Oviraptor Egg?
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Hi guys, I was considering buying the attached egg from a trusted dealer, but I’m aware that there is an awful lot of fakes out there and some can even fool the experienced dealer. Any input with regard to its authenticity would be much appreciated!- 4 replies
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Acadoparadoxides authenticity
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Hello All. I am curious as to the groups assessment as to the authenticity of this Acadoparadoxides specimen from Morocco. It measures roughly 13 inches in length (the fossil itself). I see restoration of the right eye (as in right side of the photo) and right portions of the glabella, but beyond that am fairly hopeful/comfortable that the specimen is authentic. It is interesting that an upper thoracic segment is missing, but I am thinking this could be taphonomic or that segment was lost when the rock split. Anyway, I value any thoughts and input. I'm happy to share more photos as well. Thank you.-
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Is this trilobite real?... NOT!
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Is this trilobite real? How often have we seen this question? Since folks are often asking I thought I'd toss in this obvious fake that I got in a bulk rock buy years ago. I'm no pro but I couldn't even find any real parts of this thing. I'll point out what I see and others can add their ideas Here is overall from top Here is closer shot of the front showing a few big problems. 1: the crack running around the side of the trilobite shows where the fake bug is separating from the base. They take a chunk of matrix, carve out a hole then glue on a molded fake. Then glue on powdered rock to cover the glue lines. 2: there are no details on this trilobite. They didn't even try to fake the eyes. The body is painted on. And here you can see the bubble holes from the resin / plaster used to mold the whole thing. And again, no detail what so ever. The fossil is very, very rough. No smooth lines, everything looks chisled in. Another thing to look at, when looking at the matrix overall, there is no repaired crack thru the matrix. These trilobites (like most Moroccan trilobites) are found by breaking chunks of rock looking for the black/brown lines of the trilobite shell. Then the rock is marked where the fossil is and glued back together. They then prep down to the trilobite. So, a repaired crack running thru the fossil is very common. Even though this is a bad fake I'm keeping it to use for showing what to look out for.- 18 replies
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I recently saw the pictured Keichousaurus for sale from China. Considering the sheer amount of fakes I very skeptical however, they, for the most part, are in uncommon positions and show good removal of the matrix. Are these authentic or have the dealers in China upped their game on fakes.
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I was browsing some of our favorite websites and I noticed a whole bunch of fossil fakes. Below are some fossil fabrications to be on the lookout for. While authentic looking, something bugged me when I saw this Carcharodontosaurid tooth. The overall shape near the tip is off. It is slightly too recurved and pointed. Upon closer examination, I noticed this tooth is a composite of multiple teeth. The glued section is the exact right color to match both the top and bottom tooth. It is scary how good some of the fakes are. Here is another Carcharodontosaurid tooth. This one has a really long fake root. A spino tooth with a similarly fabricated root.
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Spino tooth natural or restored/ repaired
carch_23 posted a topic in Is It Real? How to Recognize Fossil Fabrications
Hi TFF, Would like for your advice on this spino tooth I saw online. Ive been looking at some of your old threads on how spino teeth have famously been repaired or restored. Ive been, in a way, sort of been able to detect whether they have been fixed up. this one however is labelled 100% natural and messaged the seller, he also confirmed nothing has been done on the tooth and its condition is how it was found straight from the ground. Size is 4 inches so quite nice and wanted to double check as most of his listings of this size have been also labelled repaired or restored. price imo was also pretty good for its size and condition, though seller does seem reputable and many positive reviews, zero negatives. But I guess it doesnt hurt to ask for more opinions from you guys. Thanks in advance!- 5 replies
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I have just become aware of this barbaric practice! These beautiful creatures are being forced to "race" for the amusement of the onlookers! I would not be surprised, if illicit wagering were part of this opprobrious "entertainment." Contact you congressman now! This shameful, cruel practice must be stopped! Look at the poor condition of the exploited animals at the end of the video. Some of the lovely creatures appear to have broken their necks in their effort to please heartless humans! This senseless depravity must stop!
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A new "T-Rex" tooth just showed up on our favorite site. It is not a Tyrannosaurus rex tooth however but a more common and far cheaper Carch tooth. We know this because of its more blade-like morphology, its slender profile, its shape, its smaller denticles and the sand on the base I already notice multiple bids on it and I have no doubt the price would escalate as many hopeful collectors would try their hands on getting a cheap T-Rex tooth for themselves. For anyone looking to buy a true T. rex tooth, there are several factors to take note of: 1) Thickness - T. rex had crushing teeth, hence the teeth are thick. They are meant to crunch through bone 2) Locality - T. rex teeth in the market commonly comes from the Hell Creek Formation and Lance Formation. These two formations are found in Montana, Dakota and Wyoming. If a tooth originates from Africa or Morocco, it cannot be a T. rex tooth 3) Price - T. rex teeth command a premium price. Even a small tooth an inch long may cost 500 USD or more. A 2.5 inch tooth would easily be 2k USD. While exceptions do occur, if a deal seems too good to be true, then you should be extremely wary 4) Source - Make sure you get your T. rex tooth from a reputable source. By that, I don't mean a seller with a high feedback score or someone who prints you a "cert of authenticity". I mean a seller who has a history of collecting or selling Hell Creek/Lance Formation material. Better yet, get it from someone who digs there 5) Morphology - Educate yourself on the differences between T. rex, Carch, Spino, Daspletosaurus and other large theropod teeth. That way, you can immediately spot inconsistencies such as serrations or colors that does not match a T. rex tooth 6) Cross section - If all else fails, look at the cross section. If the tooth has red sandy matrix or sand, it is most likely not T. rex but is more likely from Morocco Here, I will show an example of a red T. rex tooth that superficially resembles the Carch tooth above. Take a look at the thickness and cross section though and you would quickly realize both teeth have very different morphologies Getting an authentic T. rex tooth isn't cheap, nor will it be easy. But it will be worth it in the end when you finally obtain one. Good luck in your hunt and always feel free to ask TFF if you are unsure of an upcoming purchase
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Hey hey, all fossil enthusiasts! I found these pictures of a fossil, and got curious about what kind of mammal it is. Have read about ancient camels recently and maybe thought that it is maybe a Poebrotherium skull? I don't have to much knowledge about these kinds of fossils. But would like to get some tips about how to identify these kinds of camel fossils. And maybe also how to tell the fake ones from the real ones. Since I like that kind of "investigation". //Kutembea
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Spinosaurus tooth: real or fake?
Dankenki posted a topic in Is It Real? How to Recognize Fossil Fabrications
Hello to everyone, I bought this small spinosaurus tooth some days ago and I'm now wondering if it's real or not. The seller told me that it's non reconstructed but after seeing some stuff on this forum I'm not too sure to trust him. It comes from Kem Kem. Thanks to everyone!- 5 replies
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