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I've been working through a number of Green River fish I caught from the split fish layer (now called the sandwich layer) at the Warfield Fossil Quarry about 10 years ago. They have been stored away and I'm just now cleaning them up for display. Here are two slabs that are the part and counterpart of a Knightia eocaena. I split it out at the quarry, brought both halves home, sawed them into two rectangular slabs, then wrapped them up individually in two sheets of bubble wrap and put them away for all those years. After pulling them out of storage today and running some water over them to wash off the dust, I noticed this strange purplish-blue band running diagonally through the fish. It has very sharply defined edges and runs all the way through both slabs (you can see it on the sides and backs of both slabs). I've never seen anything like this before. Does anyone have any ideas what might have caused it?
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Here's a good question. I do have several big fossil fish from the Green River Formation and already have a good idea how to hang those big monsters, but what about the smaller fossil fishes on smaller slabs of rock that are not framed? There has to be a way? @FossilDudeCO Fish like these in the picture and a whole lot more. RB
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From the album Vertebrates
Baenidae indet. Eocene Ypresian Green River Formation Kemmerer Wyoming USA Length 90mm Might be Chisternon undatum Leidy, 1872, but turtles that size are almost impossible to determine. -
On June 3rd and 4th I ditched my regular hunting grounds for the opportunity to meet up with a forum member @Seve78 at one of the Pay to Dig quarries in Kemmerer, Wyoming. Tom chose to spend Saturday at Warfield Quarry and Sunday with me at American Fossil (AKA Fish Dig) which is run by our very own TFF member @sseth Tom was an absolute pleasure to dig with and he filled his suitcase with literally tons of treasures to take home, I would meet up again in a heartbeat! I arrived at 9:30am on Saturday and spent about 4 hours helping to prep the site for Tom on Sunday. I split down some of the larger blocks that had been pulled from the wall to allow them to dry. For those of you that have not been to Kemmerer for fish yet, the rock has to be AS DRY AS POSSIBLE, or else it is just a mushy mess that WILL NOT split! Dry rocks are near impossible to achieve with just 1 day of digging! Upon Tom's arrival at around 8:00am of Sunday we got to work! Here is Tom starting his search through some of the rock that had been pulled! Here is a picture of the area I was working. I brought my long chisels and a couple of short ones for good measure. Along with 3 hammers and nippers for trimming down my finds. Both halves of a nice multi plate presented themselves for me about 3 hours in! Once all the rock had been pulled it was time to trim them up for transport. Trusty old table saw, the fastest way in the west to lose a finger! My haul after just 6 hours of total digging time was pretty impressive. All trimmed up and laid out on the table ready to go home, these finds were all delivered to the Morrison Museum of Natural History in Morrison, CO. I wanted them to have some fish for their collections and left everything as found so they could try their hands at prep! The big fish on the front of the table is a 90% complete Phareodus. This is a relatively small one, they could reach up to about 25 inches in length! I left this one with Patrick to give to Seth, maybe he can make something of it! My find of the day though was also my smallest...a Juvenile Amphiplaga brachyptera... This is the RAREST fish the Pay to Dig quarries will let you keep, and only my second one ever found in 4 years of digging Green River fishies. They do not present in the 18" layer I usually dig, only the split fish layers. I found a full grown adult measuring in at just over 5 inches and now this juvenile to add to my collection. I don't usually post much for FOTM, but this guy is headed that way! Whether he wins or not though, he has made me one happy digger! If anyone else is down for a meet-up shoot me a PM! I will be heading back to Seth's quarry on June 24-25 and always love to meet fellow TFF members! Hope you all enjoyed my trip report, see you soon! -Blake As I was leaving the quarry, we had some furry guests waiting in line for their turn to dig up some fishies!
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My kids were purty darn young when we, as a family, started going places to hunt for fossils. Back then, about 20 some years ago, I found that one could go fossil fish hunting with a company called Uricks Quarrys. Not sure of the spelling. It cost $65 for 3 hours of digging. For me, back then, that was a heck of alot of money. They told me that you get 3 hours of digging, then back to their shop for cutting and squaring up the rock. Well, I got there one morning and off we were. There must have been 10 or 12 people there and after a short bit of what to do, we all got to work. Like most everyone there, we were finding all the small stuff, the Knightia's the small Dyplo's and then all of a sudden, the guy tells us its time to pack up and go! NO, No, No I thougt to myself, we still have an hour to go. I simply kept on picking up rock and splittin. Almost everyone else was packed up and ready to go when this guy keeps telling me that its time to go. I kept on diggin. Just when the guy starts getting demanding of its 'time to go', I run into this big freakin beauty!!! This was my very first ever big fish!!! I was super happy and super excited!!! To say the least!!! Then, I was willing to go. Everyone else was ready to go, all packed up and sittin in the two vans. I didnt care, I wanted my 3 hours of digging for cryin out loud!!! After we got back home, the first thing I wanted to do was to start prepping. Mind you, I had never prepped fossil fish before and there was one piece of rock that came off that had a big piece of tail in it. This was my first ever 'bone transfer' and it came out perfect!!! I was absolutley amazed that I could do this!!!??? Learning sometimes is a bit scary! Once I had this fish all prepped out, I decided to build a frame for it. and of course, I cant do anything simple. I didnt have any money for materials, so I used common everyday fir 2X4's for the frame. I thinned them down and made a frame and stained it with cherry colored stain. Then I realised that I had some left over mohogany. so, with some thought, I added some of that and put some carvings into it adn also some burning into it too. The only thing I didnt do was to put the Genus and species of this fish onto a carved area on the bottom. I simply didnt know the name in those days and was too excited to get it done. But still, my most favorite and memerable fish still today. I love this fish. Brings back some very nice memories.
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Made my first trip up to Wyoming to visit the fish quarry this weekend. Everything went well, but the rocks are still a bit wet. We spent most of the time removing junk to get to our good productive layers! The main mission of the trip was not to dig, but to see how the winter had treated us! Below is a picture of the quarry Our digging platform for the split fish is right behind that truck and trailer. We moved the trailer up this year to house our finds and our gear! Of course....being such a gorgeous day and only about 16°C or 17°C we couldn't help but dig up some fish! After just a couple of hours of digging we had a pile of nice fish to bring back home and after trimming them up you can see our spoils! The real catch of the day though took us by surprise! It was a perfectly preserved bug!! Not uncommon in the Green River layers, but one like this has never been seen before! It is headed over to Fossil Butte to be examined by the Curator there and hopefully he has some fun news for us! If you look close you can see one wing spread out, all the legs preserved and even big, long, gorgeous antenna! This is one primo bug! Hope you guys enjoyed my report (I know it is short) but keep your eyes peeled for more Green River Adventures! -Blake
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I will be taking the family on our trip to Kemmerer the 2nd weekend of June. This is the trip sseth offered up to auction back in Nov/Dec. My 4th had to back out due to a family issue so I posted the open slot under the rolling auction if anyone is interested in joining us out there under sseth's guidance for 2 full days of eocene rock fishing the green river. I will also be hitting Big Cedar Ridge in WY for some cretaceous plant fossils on the 6th and U-dig in UT for some cambrian trilobites for a couple of hours on the 12th in case anyone's looking for digging company that week. I tried reaching out to both Black Cat Mountain and Thiessen Quarry in OK looking for a solo trip on 6/15, but I haven't heard back from either. If anyone has a lead they would be willing to share I would appreciate finding a way to connect with one of them before we go. It's shaping up to be one heck of a trip and I look forward to sharing pics of our adventures when we return. Let me know if anyone is interested in trying to coordinate times at any of the locations.
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For those interested in the Green River fauna and geology, here's the link to a detailed report by the Wyoming State Geological Survey. http://www.wsgs.wyo.gov/products/wsgs-1984-b-63.pdf It has probably been posted somewhere already on the forum but I didn't find it, so at least it will be here
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I just had to show this one off! I saved the Notogoneous from a terrible fate of never being prepped! My buddy thought he was missing part of his head after he roughed it out so he set it aside. Notogoneous is my favourite fish so I took a gamble and had it prepped out, to my surprise it was all there with a wide open mouth! Notogoneous: 24 1/8 inches (61.28cm) Diplomystus: 15 inches (38.10cm) Knightia: 7 inches (17.78cm) Cockerellites (Priscacara): 5 3/4 inches (14.60cm) Entire panel measures 63 1/2 inches (156.21cm) wide by 22 inches (55.88cm) tall.
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My youngest son goes fossil hunting without me these days and a few years ago he went to the parachute member of the Green River Formation and found some fossil leafs. He asked me the other day if I would do a prep job on a leaf he had found. I said "sure". So, he brought it over and I did some 'prep majic on it. It didn't look too good when I first took a gander at it, but I figured I could get some tips out of it and expose the stem. The more work I did on it the better it got. The bad thing was the leaf itself was not in very good preservation with the rock very discolored around the leaf making it hard to see. So, the mind got to thinkin and then I decided to do a bit of artwork around it. I have to say that was a good idea. Still have a ways to go but its coming along quite nice!!! One of those fossils where the more you do the better it gets. RB
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I picked up this treasure in Tucson, because I have always wanted one, and had never been able to afford on till then. Species: Mioplosus and Knightia Location: Green River, Wyoming continued....
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Here it is, the show booth layout! What do yah think? did we get enough fish this year? I am kind of fond of the table, it is fully lit all the way around the inside with LED lights!
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Hello TFF! I just wanted to take a minute to share with everyone some of our finds from 2016. I do most of my digging up in Kemmerer, WY trying my hand at fossil fishes. 2016 was a pretty exceptional year in that along with our standard hundreds of 18" fish and thousands of split fish we pulled 2 VERY LARGE specimens. quite rare really. it averages out to about 1 every 2 or 3 years normally, so 2 in one summer is AMAZING! These panels have all been finished and are ready to hit the market along with the large gar and the croc! Fingers crossed that they sell so we can open up next year! I hope you all enjoy coming along. ALL of these panels feature 100% natural fish with 0% restoration. NO PAINT, a few have been inlaid though. In the last picture, the branch does have around 2% restoration because it was in multiple pieces needing to be glued.
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I have some fossils from the Green River that I collected several years ago. One of them had a nice full Knightia on it but the matrix was so thick that I decided to split it. When I did, I found these two small lumps on the newly split surface. The one on the right looks like it has bony fragments in it, I was wondering if these were some sort of fish poop. Nothing else shows up on this layer.
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From the album Green River Formation. Parachute Creek Member. Douglas Pass, Colorado
Horsetail. Collected from the Green River Formation. Parachute Creek Member. Douglas Pass, Colorado. Radar Dome location. -
From the album Green River Formation. Parachute Creek Member. Douglas Pass, Colorado
Unidentified insect from the Green River Formation. Parachute Creek Member. Douglas Pass, Colorado. Radar Dome location. 5/8" across. -
Hi all, I would like to know if these are scale imprints. Initially I thought they are scales, but after examination under a macro lens, some of the lines lead from the central vertebrate to the dorsal edge, resembling neural spines and are therefore not scales. The specimen is a Knightia, about 3 inches in length. Thanks for any information.
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Thanks to Blake(FossilDudeCo), I was able to purchase an unprepped plate back in March to try my hand at my first green river fish. It's been a busy year so it's just been been sitting on my prep table mocking me for the past 8 months. This weekend I finally spent some time working on it. Learned a lot, what works, what really doesn't, and mostly that I now want to get out to the green river formation and go 'fishing' for myself. It's certainly far from perfect and I need to get some carbide needle chisels to clean up details for any I do in the future, but overall I was pretty excited with it. It's a Pricacara Liops and the fish measures out at 5 1/8"
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Green River Leaf
FossilDudeCO posted a topic in Partners in Paleontology - Member Contributions to Science
Hello all! I am very pleased to announce that I am sending my first piece of Green River plant material over to Fossil Butte National Monument for them to add to their collections! It has the structure of the leaf down to the third set of veins and should be able to be recognized by genus. This came out of a strange layer between the split fish and the 18 inch at the Lewis Ranch. The layer it comes from consists of mostly Phareodus and Gar. Plant material is fairly uncommon within it, but shows extremely nice preservation. While it is not a complete leaf, it can be identified and used for research!- 9 replies
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I got these at the Denver Show, but wasn't provided with any information on them. I know the seller had a numeric species ID list, these were labeled 46, 8 and 9. But that won't help much. I assume these are from the Eocene Green River formation
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Collected South of the Radar Dome near the cliff face.
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I'm recently retired and finally getting around to sorting through an assortment of fossils I collected on a trip to the Green River in Wyoming about 10 years ago. I dug in the split fish layer at the quarry at Warfield's Fossils. Along with the usual assortment of Knightia, etc., I just came across this fossil that I can't identify. Can someone help?
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Collected South of the Radar Dome near the cliff face.
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