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Not sure if the identification section is the right place to post this because I know it is a Pleistocene Horse tooth from the Brazos river in southeast Texas. However I’m wondering if this is a pathological tooth or a cavity. I’ve found well over 100 horse teeth and none of them have this feature. I appreciate any insights
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This may be the best preserved Horse tooth I’ve ever found. It has very little wear and even still has the roots! I’ve looked through all the reference material that I have available and really haven’t found anything close. Even if I don’t get an ID I knew Jack would love to see this one! L=20.5mm W=13mm H=29mm. @Shellseeker
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I've been dragging my feet on posting trip reports on two excursions out to a river in SE Texas simply because I hate having to convert image file formats but I've finally bit the bullet and am ready to report! First up is a trip a month ago. The weather has been brutally hot so I have to head to and leave the site earlier than id like but I've recently found a way out to a gravel bar that's actually an island in the river and had pretty good luck on both occasions I've been there hunting. Drought conditions have exposed large areas of the gravel bars and might be the reason why this spot is accessible on foot lately rather than requiring a boat of some description. I should mention that I've still got a lot of learning to do so I'll admit all my ID's are tentative and would welcome any corrections or assistance. Also if anyone wants individual shots of different angles of any of this material with scale or measurements I'd be happy to do so. One last thing worth mentioning is my collection bias, I tend to leave behind any invertebrate material (mostly Cretaceous Texigryphaea) and an absolute ton of petrified wood. First is a shot of the gravel bar from the bank. Second photo is highly fragmented turtle/tortoise shell in situ that I took so I could vinac the pieces back together once I got home. Third shot is the sum total of the fossils recovered once they'd been cleaned and reassembled in the case of that turtle/tortoise shell. Fourth shot is a close up of the two proximal horse phalanx and three horse teeth. Fifth photo is all turtle/tortoise shell including the reassembled fragment. Sixth is a bunch of unidentified tooth enamel, a couple possible tusk fragments up top, and mastodon and mammoth enamel on the right hand side. Seventh is a group shot of the unidentifiable material. Eighth and final photo is of three pieces from the unidentifiable group that I can at least hazard a guess as to which element/family they might have come from-specifically part of a phalanx I believe, a large rib fragment and a small hollow long bone I assume is from a bird but one epiphysis is totally gone and the other is so damaged I doubt its possible to say any more about. All in all I'd call it a pretty successful outing! (for some reason the order I uploaded the photo's isn't the order they posted in so the 4th photo was moved up to the first position, whoops!)
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I found this broken end of a long bone several months ago near Houston in the late Pleistocene gravel deposits of the Beaumont and Lissie Formations. Here are some pictures (with each grid on the graphing paper being 1/4 of an inch): I know that it's the end of a tibia because the grooves on the end are shaped to match an astragalus (ankle bone), and that their slanted angle indicates a perissodactyl like a horse, tapir, or rhino rather than an artiodactyl like a bison, pig, deer, or camel. Based on the size of the bone, I think I can pretty easily rule out rhino, which leaves only horse or tapir as a possibility. Now, I've never found a single tapir bone in all the time I've spent hunting in this area, whereas it seems like there's such an overabundance of horse material that I'm literally tripping over their teeth and bones any time I take a step (that and turtle shell fragments)! Needless to say the odds are definitely in favor of horse. What's stumped me is that it seems just too small to be a horse bone - at the very least, not one from an adult anyway. I know that three-toed horses were often smaller than their one-toed cousins, and I've found their teeth before as it's not too uncommon for them to wash down from the older formations north of where I'm hunting, so that's also a possibility. My main problem is that I can't find any reliable measurements online for the distal end of a tapir tibia to compare mine to. So if anyone has any old literature with some helpful information or (even better) pictures, I'd love to see them. Any help is appreciated! @Shellseeker @Harry Pristis @garyc
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Would love some help IDing this. Found on manasota key in Florida USA. I'm leaning towards horse. But I've gotten bison ans kangaroo in another group.
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So went out on the peace today to a new spot. Which I will absolutely be returning to. This weekend actually, cause it won’t rain till Monday, so the water is just gonna keep dropping! Anyway, had some awesome finds today, even though my cursed Meg luck continues. So to start off with the coolest finds: We’ve got a m2? or m1 Equus horse tooth in incredible condition, there’s only slight damage to the very bottom of the root on one side: A piece of dolphin jaw sans teeth: A massive glyptodont scute: 2 Tilly bones! I was complaining about not finding any of these before, and found my first 2: My only complete Meg from today, a tiny baby: This absolutely massive 1.25” Tiger shark tooth: Large gator tooth: Gator/Croc osteoderm bits: 4 Ray dermal denticles, one of which is the biggest I’ve ever found: a Tortoise spur, I think? A dolphin periotic ear bone: A worn/broken Dolphin vert: A dugong vert process: And finally, turtle shell and Meg frags: And cause I wanted to showcase sizing, here’s a Nannippus P2 vs the Equus m2/m1, and then my old glyptodont scute vs the one I found today:
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Hello, I found some fossil teeth on a friends ranch in Eastern Oregon and was hoping for some help with ID. The area has been described as Mascall Formation (16 Ma) from the Miocene, however there aren't any detailed geologic maps of the region and I suspect some areas may be closer to the Pliocene. The teeth were found as float material from several places. I think #1 or #2 may be Merychippus or Pliohippus (horses) and #4 may be Equus (horse). #1-3 were all found in the same general area and I am fairly confident it is Mascall Fm (Miocene). However, #4 was found in another area and appears to be Equus. Since Equus is from the Pliocene, I am thinking it could be from the younger (Pliocene) Rattlesnake Fm or an undescribed strata. I am a little more unsure about #3 and think I could be a rhino or similar large mammal. Thank you for your help,
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Howdy! Found a bone and tooth the other day in a stream in Allegheny County. I tried burning the bone, but couldn't smell anything.
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Most of the fossil hunting in Jacksonville is limited to dredge spoil sites from the St. John’s River. The majority are off limits or severely overgrown by vegetation so when I saw bulldozers turning over one of my favorite sites along the river I knew it was only going to take a few showers to wash it down and the tropical rains from last week did the trick ! Made it out there 2 days in a row and was quickly reminded how good it can be here with my first find a beautiful great white tooth partially encased in matrix. You find alot of fossils here with matrix on them and found several sharks teeth, a partial horse tooth, and a piece of capybara molar all with matrix still on them. Found a box full of broken sharks teeth including some heartbreaker megs but managed a number of nice great white and I.hastalis teeth but the best find was a decent Eremotherium tooth split vertically down the middle - ugh ! Need some help with a partial horse tooth that appears to be pre -equus. What’s left of the tooth is almost 2cm in mesio- distal length and slightly more than 1cm in the bucco- lingual dimension. Hopefully it can be further identified. Many thanks !
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Could use a little help with this one. I think I have it narrowed down to Nannippus but haven’t found a close match with the info I have available. Thanks. APL=24mm. TRW=23mm. MSCH=37mm. Thanks @Shellseeker @Harry Pristis
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Hi Found in the peace river in Florida. Can someone tell me if this is a three toed horse or it’s descendant? It is fossilized. To me it looks three toed based on the shape and curvature? Any ideas? Thanks
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Some Messel Pit specimens: real or not?
Kim sung hyun posted a topic in Is It Real? How to Recognize Fossil Fabrications
Here are some messel fit specimens I recently got and saw. These are from German collector, old collection. I guess that bird and fish(amia) specimens is real, but not sure about the others. Is there anyone who can identify it?
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I was out again with a good friend. He has a huge garden and gifts me vegetables from time to time. Yesterday he gave a one of his earliest perfectly ripe Cantaloupes. We had some for breakfast... sweet and delicious. Once again, I saw @PODIGGER at the launch point. to discuss finds, but I left early. It was a day of few finds. Some broken Megs, a few Hemis, but I like tigers, and I did get a contortus. Some turtle, which I do not normally keep, in the center a chunk of a Capybara m3, an earbone which was my find of the day (I will separate to another fossil ID thread). A medial phalanx. Not a lot of finds but more than enough to keep me happy. Before I go to the fossil finds, what is this ? It feels like crumply rock,, but what is the source of the maze like pattern? Up close photo of the Capybara molar.. I believe that this is one end of a turtle humerus: Let's get an ID on this medial phalanx: It is L 35 x H 16 x W 15 mm. Almost seems to have the concave/convex end of a gator Vert, but I have never seen any vert that looks like this. Once again thinking sea turtle.. Thanks for the help.
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OK my fellow fossil hunters need your help with this one… What could it be?
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Hi all, I found this tooth that washed out of the Charleston Harbor in South Carolina that is ~3 inches long and ~2 inches wide. I was wondering if someone could help me with an ID on it? Thinking it may be horse, bison, or cow, but those are just guesses so any help would be appreciated!
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Finding the three-toed horse tooth from my first trip really inspired me, so I made the long drive back to a spot I found along the Brazos River. Despite the treacherous route down the bank and mile long journey to the far end of the sandbar, I was not discouraged. I don't usually look for things from this time period, so almost anything I'd find would be a personal first which added an extra layer of enthusiasm to the hunt. The weather was nice and various recreational planes flew about in the sky. Although the Brazos water isn't the prettiest sight to behold, the carved cliffs and southeastern greenery made up for it in terms of aesthetics. Using the information I had gathered from my first trip, I didn't waste any time in heading straight for the far end of the sandbar, where heavier materials seemed to accumulate. The hunting was a bit sparser than I would have liked, but I think that's probably just how it is around this area. Though I didn't find anything too crazy, I still managed to gather an assortment of interesting pieces that I would like to learn more about. I believe most of my specimens are on the more common side of things. I probably won't come back for a long time due to my temporary moving back to DFW for the summer, but I do plan on once again making a return in the future as I feel like this site has potential for amazing things. By the way, the exposures in the area include the Beaumont Clay and Lissie Formation along with various things washing down from Miocene strata upriver. Anyways, here is an overview of my best finds from the trip: And here are some closeups and descriptions: A: Definitely a horse tooth, probably Equus. It's got some hard matrix attached to the chewing surface and other parts of it. I tried to pick it off with a needle, but with little success. I'm guessing it's about Pleistocene in age. Not the coolest of finds, but I still like it quite a bit since it's my first Equus ever. Not sure if it's IDable given the matrix covering it. B: I'm really hoping this is a piece of mastodon tooth, but I'm about 90% sure it isn't. Superficially, I think there is a resemblance in terms of shape. It is conic and filled with crystal in the center. Visually looks like the point of a mastodon tooth got sliced in half. However, the outer part, which should be enamel, just seems like some other material. The outside reminds me of some sort of shell from a Cretaceous deposit. In pic 3, there is an interesting pattern on the left side of the fragment (like boxes). I'm not sure what the significance of such patterning is, but I think this may be recognizable to someone out there. C: A little mineralized lower jaw fragment. I believe it to be deer. D: I think this is a bit of turtle. It's got a bit of sandstone matrix on the bottom side. E: Deer astragalus? F: Strange black piece of bone. It's unlike the mammalian stuff I've seen before. Could it be reptilian or amphibian? In pics 2 and 4, there seems to be a rugose texture on one side. G: Don't know if this is IDable. It is mineralized and has some unique features that might make it diagnostic. H: Deer metatarsal? As always, let me know if you would like any extra closeups. Thanks for reading!
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Here is a partial tooth I found in the Peace River (Bone Valley, FL) on a recent trip. It's broken, but the crown remains. I think it's horse, but does anyone have any idea what horse species this is, or if it's not horse, then what could it be? Thanks!
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I found these on the beach in South Carolina while searching for shark teeth. Im confident in the ancient horse tooth, but the other two, I’m not sure… any help would be greatly appreciated! I was told the tooth with the roots could be camel and also told the other piece would likely be a broken piece of a mammoth molar.
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Today we went to a great spot we don't go often. The first 50 minutes were great, then it started raining,I can't imagine what I would have found if I got to stay a good 3 hours. We got two gator osteoderms, including the smallest one I've ever seen (below the large one) some gator teeth. Multiple mammal teeth (follow link below message to get to the ID message) horse frags, gar scales, turtle shell, and other weird fossils. Again, please go to the ID chat just to check if you can help.
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Greetings, I found this bone on property where cattle used to feed and where bison were native to. This was found in the side bank of a washout and roughly 1 ft below surface grade. A friend went to track for it and it snapped upon grabbing it and the other portion is still buried. It is currently frozen so I am unable to dig further into the bank to reveal more of the bone. It appears to be fairly old and the inside is hollowed out. I was wondering if anyone may be able to identify it based on side and shape. Please let me know what your thoughts are.
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Is this a cow, horse, or bison scapula? I live in an area where bison used to roam and know that on the same property, bison skulls and bones have been found. Please let me know your thoughts and reasoning on how it was identified. Thank you!
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Recent finds from Texas! Ammonites from the Goodland limestone, petrified wood and ice age stuff bank gravel of the Brazos river, either Beaumont or Lissie formations, or from a terrace deposit. The rib is mammoth/mastodon, the vertebra and hoof core bison, the antler is likely whitetail deer, and the teeth are horse and bison, with the small one I think a 3-toed horse based on the images I looked up.
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Yesterday, not finding much beyond small teeth (Lemon, Dusky, Tiger) .... and in the last sieve before I pack up this tooth , just barely erupted... Those are some "really" small measurements of the length and width...
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I was out yesterday. Fantastic day in the sunshine. Did not need a wetsuit, even 3 mm. I was "prospecting" mostly walking upstream , checking likely places for gravel. Not many hoorah finds, but sometimes you only need one. I was finding a number of mammal bones, leaving most of them behind. Here is a bone that I think I have seen frequently, but just spent a couple of hours trying to get a good match searching TFF and the internet for variations of Horse, Proximal/distal, Radius, Tibia... and I am not sure yet.... I started the search thinking it was a leg bone of a small horse... with one flat side and a proximal end that looks something like a llama fibula..... So, let's see what others think.... Are those bite marks on the 1st photo?
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