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  1. Hi, I’m wondering if it would be a difficult task to remove the matrix/dirt layer off this carcharodontosaurid tooth. I have no experience, but might seem like a cool project? Would a dental pick, brush, and needles suffice?
  2. Cavebear

    Kem kem beds vertebrae

    Hello everyone, I purchased a set of two vertebrae from the kem kem beds. (For a very small amount)The seller was honest in stating that he did not know what they are. He said possibly reptilian but was not certain. So its either turtle, crocodile or even dinosaur? Already thanks for any reply and comments. With best regards, Dirk
  3. Mai-k

    Raptor teeth?

    Hi everyone, I’m new to this forum and fossils in general and was hoping to get an ID on two fossil teeth that were labeled as “raptor” teeth. I’m still learning some terminology, so forgive me if I mislabel something. Thank you in advance! both are said to be from the Kem Kem Beds in Morocco, although the darker brown one has a specific location in Taouz, Kem Kem Basin, Morocco. Distal edge above.mesial edge above. distal edge above.mesial edge above.
  4. Hello people. I recently started buying fossils from the kem kem beds other than dinosaur. Not that they aren't cool (Just awesome ) but as to get a better understanding of the paleoecology since , imho, only talking about dinosaur does not do justice to the fantastic other prehistoric creatures. Among many kinds of fish that i aquired was also a shell piece of a turtle. I can't find much on the net but have learned that at least 3 species are known from these beds. After comparing with pieces offered by other vendors the name "hamadachelys " often is used. Some of the pics on the net look the same others don't. So I wonder if this piece can be named. If not no worry since i am happy with "testudian indet." The piece is 10 centimeters long (sorry i am metric ) and repared along the fracture and covered with standard "Morrocan matrix fix-it-all " (they should get a patent for it but not bashing on the people since i know a lot of very nice morrocan people ) sorry for bad pics as I have stated earlier that i am absolutely a giant newbie with technology. Thank you for comments and information. With best regards, Dirk
  5. BirdsAreDinosaurs

    Kem Kem jaw fragment

    Hi all! What do you make of this 8 cm long jaw fragment from the Kem Kem beds?
  6. Fissiletag

    Spinosaurus Jaw Section

    I bought this jaw section and it was labled as a Spinosaurus jaw section. It is from the Kem Kem Beds and is about 4.1 inches.
  7. jikohr

    Is this a Spinosaur Vertebra?

    Hi everyone! I'm actually fairly certain this is Spinosaur based on the S. aegyptiacus holotype drawing which shows a vertebra with a bump of bone on the bottom and nothing on the sides of the centrums (I cropped that part for a reference) but Kem Kem stuff is weird so I figured it would be a good idea to get a second opinion. The bone measures 10.1 cm tall without the bump of matrix on top, 5.4 cm long, and the centrum widths are 5.15 and 6.15 cm. Any insight is greatly appreciated as always! Also Happy Thanksgiving!
  8. BirdsAreDinosaurs

    Kem Kem mystery tooth

    Hi all. I recently bought this interesting little tooth from @pachy-pleuro-whatnot-odon. When he first bought it, it was labeled as a Deltadromeus agilis premax tooth. What Deltadromeus' teeth look like, no one knows, but I see why someone would ID this as a premax theropod tooth because of its triangular base and the mesial carina that looks quite theropodian. But to my knowledge, theropod premax teeth have their two carinae located on/towards the distal side, and there is no carina on the midline of the mesial side. What do you think? Is this a premax theropod tooth? Is it even dinosaurian, or could it be something else entirely (perhaps a pterosaur or other reptile)?
  9. Hi everyone! I acquired this vertebra as part of a menagerie of kem kem fossils awhile ago and could use some help Identifying it, if that's even possible. I'm leaning toward Theropod indet. but croc wouldn't surprise me if only because I just assume everything Kem Kem is croc until prove otherwise. I don't think it's Spinosaur from comparing it to the pics of the holotype. Maybe someone will see something I don't which narrows the id down further. Digital caliper measurements are 75.51 mm tall, 61.6 and 63.5 mm wide centrums, and 43.84 mm long/thick (not sure which to use to describe this). Any insight is appreciated as always!
  10. BirdsAreDinosaurs

    Kem Kem dinosaur project

    I finally made a start with a project I was planning for a while now: drawing the Kem Kem dinosaur fauna! First I will draw each dinosaur individually and then I will combine them all in one big landscape. As you can probably tell, I am not aiming for 100% scientific accurary. I do however try to take into account what I know about these animals and what is known about their skeletons. This is the first one and probably the most iconic of them all: Spinosaurus. I will give regular updates here about this fun project, so stay tuned!
  11. BirdsAreDinosaurs

    Consolidate Kem Kem teeth

    Hi all. Some of the Kem Kem dinosaur teeth in my collection have cracks in the enamel or missing bits of enamel. Therefore I thought it would be wise to consolidate these teeth. I was thinking about using a 5% solution of paraloid b-72 in acetone. I do have a few questions about how to apply the consolidant. - I am planning to apply the paraloid using a small brush. How do you usually do that? Do one side first, wait for it to dry and then do the other side? - how long does it take before a tooth is completely dry and you can touch the fossil again with your bare hands? Minutes, hours, days? - I believe many of the Kem Kem teeth are already kind of consolidated using super glue. Is this correct and does this affect how the paraloid works or how I should approach the process? Thanks!
  12. Hi everyone? I know that this is sauropod from the kem kem, but I was wondering if it could be narrowed down anymore. I've looked at a guide for Kem Kem dinos on the forum and I'm leaning Titanosaur because of the oval cross section but I would really like a second opinion because of the feeding wear. length is 40 mm width is 9 mm thickness is 6 mm Any insight is greatly appreciated as always!
  13. Marco90

    Spinosaurus aegyptiacus

    From the album: My collection in progress

    Spinosaurus aegyptiacus Stromer 1915 Location: Kem Kem Beds, Morocco Age: 95 Mya (Cenomanian, Upper Cretaceous) Measurements: 7x2 cm Kingdom: Animalia Phylum: Chordata Subphylum: Vertebrata Class: Reptilia Subclass: Diapsida Superorder: Dinosauria Order: Saurischia Suborder: Theropoda Family: Spinosauridae
  14. jikohr

    Elosuchus tooth?

    Hi everyone! I've been looking at possible ids for this one and my best guess is Elosuchus, but I wanted to make sure since the crown is kinda small (juvenile?). Kem Kem Beds, Morocco Crown Height is 2 cm, Crown base is 1.3 x 1.25 cm Overall specimen is 6.4 cm long (straight line) Largest cross section on root is 1.4 x 1.4 cm. As usual any feedback is appreciated!
  15. Hi everyone! Got a nice little mystery bone from the Kem Kem here. I think it's a Coracoid bone but I'm not sure from what. I'm leaning Crocodyliform only because that seems to be the most common thing for these random mystery bones but I don't know for sure so I figured I'd seek a second opinion in case it might be something else like a fish bone. It measures 7 cm (2.76 inches). Any feedback is appreciated as always!
  16. BirdsAreDinosaurs

    Kem Kem Dromaeosaurid like tooth?

    Looks like a pretty good candidate for a possible Dromaeosaurid tooth to me (small, compressed, recurved, clear difference in serration size and a mesial twist) but I would welcome your opinions. The tooth is 13 mm long. Serration counts are 16 per 5mm distal ans 23 per 5 mm mesial. Thanks!
  17. FB003

    Morroco Tooth ID

    Hi all, Looking for tooth ID. This little guy was sold as an abelisaur but something looks off. Looks almost like a carch. Either way, at the price I'm more than happy with it just looking to confirm the ID. Quite a nice little thing. Kem Kem find in the Taouz area per the seller. Measurement for ID below in mm CH - 9.83 AL - 12.12 CBL - 7.41 CBW 3.27 Denticle on both sides are 13 (over 3mm since tooth is tiny). Thanks for any help!
  18. BirdsAreDinosaurs

    Kem Kem tooth

    Hi all. This tooth (about 2 cm) is advertised as Rugops and I have seen some similar teeth online with the same id. I am pretty sure that that is not what this is as it does not look Abelisaurid at all, but I have no idea what it could be. Especially the distal edge seems pretty weird to me (like it is a double edge), although these pictures from the seller are not great. The mesial edge does seem to be serrated. Is this even a theropod tooth? Thanks!
  19. jikohr

    Kem Kem Claw id help

    Hi everyone! I'm fairly certain there's no funny business on this one, but I don't know what type of critter it could be since I'm fairly certain 99.9% of Moroccan claw pics online are of fakes and the remaining 1% are misidentified. 37.5 mm long 12 mm tall 8 mm wide What do you all think? Dinosaur? Croc? Turtle? Pterosaur? Any feedback is greatly appreciated as always!
  20. Hi everyone! I've been going through and identifying some small serrated kem kem teeth and was hoping for some verification. I'm fairly certain the first three are Carcharodontosaurid and the last one isn't but I just wanted to make absolutely sure. CH is crown height CBL is the length of the base CBW is the width of the base
  21. Paper finds strong support for aquatic habits in spinosaurids, associated with a marked increase in bone density. Paywalled paper https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-04528-0 Bone density of Baryonyx appears closer to Spinosaurus than Suchomimus which has lots of implications in its adaptation to aquatic life National Geo https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/spinosaurus-had-penguin-like-bones-a-sign-of-hunting-underwater Smithsonian https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/heavy-bones-helped-some-species-of-spinosaurs-swim-180979775/ Phys org https://phys.org/news/2022-03-dense-bones-spinosaurus-underwater.html I wish we see some publications on other theropods in the KK not just the headliner Spinosaurus
  22. BirdsAreDinosaurs

    Kem Kems feathered dinosaurs?

    Recently I started collecting dinosaur teeth from Morocco and it has completely refueled my childhood fascination with these awesome creatures. I work as an illustrator (amongst other things) and have taken up the idea of making an illustration of the Kem Kem dinosaur fauna. Before I start sketching, I need to know how these creatures looked like. One main thing I need to do is decide what animals I will give feathers. Here are my thoughts. Species I want to include: Spinosaurus aegyptiacus - enormous, probably semi-aquatic animal, so probably no feathers Carcharodontosaurus saharicus - very big animal, probably no feathers but perhaps some for display? Rugops primus (I am aware it is not (yet) officially described from Morocco) - given that Carnotaurus was most probably not feathered, I am going to assume Rugops was also a scaly animal Deltadromeus agilis - I am going to assume it is an noasaurid. No evidence for feathers. I am thinking about including some fluffy, feathered juveniles. Rebbachisaurus garasbae - big sauropod, no feathers An indeterminate dromaeosaur - fully feathered like a bird An indeterminate titanosaur - huge animal without feathers That's it! Maybe I am slighty too conservative regarding the feathers? Would be great to hear your thoughts.
  23. jikohr

    Carcharodontosaurus premax?

    Hi everyone! I acquired this recently, I'm fairly certain it's Carcharodontosaurus but the shape is kinda off. Is it a Premax? dimensions are 6.2 x 2.5 x 1.5 cm Kem Kem Beds Morocco.
  24. BirdsAreDinosaurs

    Miniature dinosaur museum

    Welcome to... my tiny dinosaur museum! I used to work at the largest natural history museum of the Netherlands and now I created a little copy of my own. I just recently started collecting dinosaur teeth from Morocco. At the moment I have 7 teeth: two Spinosaurids, one Carcharodontosaurid, 3 Abelisaurids and a Titanosaurid. As you can see, I also like to collect dinosaur models that are more or less accurate according to latest insights. The museum is still under construction: the labels are not correct (this is what I got from the fossil dealers, I need to make better ones) and I need more figures (I really hope one of my favourite manufacturers will produce a nice Rugops in the future) and teeth. Those Dromaeosaurid models are obviously out of place, but they will stay as long as I do not have more appropriote models. The next few teeth I would like to add are one bigger Carch, one specimen of the teeth that are often labeled as Deltadromeus and one or more Dromaeosaurid-like teeth. I do not know many good dealers in the EU, so if anyone has any tips that would be greatly appreciated!
  25. jikohr

    Kem Kem vertebra id help

    Hi everyone! So first and foremost let me say, it's not a composite. Yes I know there is some sediment where the process meets the centrum, yes it is Moroccan, yes 99.9999999% of the time that automatically means funny business but I've looked at the area really carefully and the bone connects there (might try getting rid of some of that matrix at least on one side depending on what it's from). Anyway, I'm on the fence on this one. I was comparing it to a similar thread where a fellow asked about a caudal vertebra from the kem kem which turned out to be croc but was sold as Rebbachisaurus. In the thread some pics were posted of Titanosaur caudals and this looks really similar to that versus the examples of Crocodyliforms that where shown. But before I take that leap I would like a second opinion. The dimensions are 2.25 in. (6 cm) long, 1.85 in. (4.7 cm) tall, and .83 and .75 in. (2.1 and 1.9 cm) wide on its centrum. I also included the pic from that thread of Titanosaur caudal that was posted by Troodon.
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