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What do you guys think of these four knightia fish?
RepoMan9130 posted a topic in General Fossil Discussion
I am new to fossil collecting and paleontology in general. I wasn't sure if these are real, as it's almost unbelievable to me that I can buy such things for so cheap, but apparently the seller is highly regarded. I was under the impression that finding multiple things fossilized together is quite rare? Either way, I impulse bought this, along with some spinosaur teeth. What do you guys think? These knightia are from the Green River Formation in Wyoming, and according to the site, the largest fish is 3.1 inches. Any thoughts, impressions, or random information would be appreciated.- 6 replies
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Fossil ID help: Knightia, Shark tooth (hastalis or desori), Ammonite (Aioloceras?)
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Hello. I was wondering if anyone could help me with some fossil identifications. Thanks for any help. First, here is a Green River formation fish plate. I know the fish are Knightia, but I don't know how to differentiate the species. I think they are Knightia eocaena. Can anyone confirm the species? Thanks. Next, here is a shark tooth I found while digging on the Ernst ranch in Bakersfield, California. It is either Carcharodon hastalis or Isurus desori. I'm not great at telling the two apart. Can anyone confirm the species? Thanks. Last, here is an ammonite I received from caldigger. He identified it as Aioloceras besiaiei. I think the species might have been misspelled and is supposed to be besairiei. I've seen these sometimes referred to as Cleoniceras. Does anyone know the difference between Aioloceras and Cleoniceras? Thanks.- 8 replies
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My First Purchase—Green River Diplomystus with Knightia
Owl_Roker posted a topic in Is It Real? How to Recognize Fossil Fabrications
Hello Everyone, Newbie here from the Emerald Isle. I finally pulled the trigger and purchased my first fossil—a Green River Diplomystus dentatus with Knightia eocaena. The seller is well-known and highly regarded on this forum so I’m not necessarily concerned with the authenticity, but I am really keen to hear people’s opinions on this specimen. My apologies if this is the wrong place to post. Thanks, Robert- 10 replies
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I got this fish with some others in a trade deal the other day; I was supposed to get a mixed box of Diplomystus and Knightia, but this guy stood out for me. Doesn't look like either, and seems a bit too big for Amphiplaga. Maybe juvenile Mioplosus? Anybody? Is there another photo that can help? Thanks for looking!
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I'm working on some new fossil fish paintings and thought I'd share them here. I'm trying to work my way through the Green River formation fish first, though I'm sure I won't paint them all. I've only done two so far, but I'll add more as I paint them. The quality will vary, I'm sure. Here's my take on a Priscacara. and of course a Knightia: I've started on a diplomystus, and will post that soon. Thanks for looking. Oh, for those interested, I'm using gouache paints, similar to watercolor but more opaque.
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Basically, I put a bunch of fossil fish together in one piece . All fish that I have found at the Green River formation in Wyoming. There's a Phareodus, a bunch of Diplomystus, and Knightia. Jared
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I was going through my fossils today, and I pulled out one of my Knightia Fossils I found in Wyoming. The fossil has 2 Knightia lying on top of each other in the same layer. I saw it, and I immediately thought this to myself as a joke: "Betty, I always knew we would die together." This got me thinking, does anyone have any fossil jokes they want to share? Jared
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Fish fossils (Knightia eocaena & Diplomystus dentatus)
Brady Williams posted a topic in Is It Real? How to Recognize Fossil Fabrications
Bought a fossil online. Wanted to know if it is real or not. I'm a new member, so ignore my lack of knowledge on these things.- 6 replies
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Hello everyone! So, a bit of a long story. I have a habit of looking at my fossils under a magnifier. Today, I was looking at a knightia fossil and I decided to theorize a little bit about it after looking at it. After looking at it for a little bit, I told myself that it looks like a sardine. After I did that, I went on the internet to take a look at the family of knightia as well as a family of herrings and sardines. to my surprise, my theory was correct. Knightia and herrings and sardines share the family clupeidae. You learn something new everyday! Jared
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Hello I'm a newbie fossil collector (and newly active member) who happens to several interesting fossils for a decent price from our favorite auctions sites 1st is are Knightia. The seller claims that they are not restored or enhanced 2nd set are 4 Spinosaurus teeth. The seller claims that cracks have been repaired, but no restoration or composition has been made (Pictures 2-9 of teeth in pairs) 3rd is a Lycoptera which the seller claims is not restored or enhanced 4th are plates of Elrathia Trilobites from Wheeler Formation 5th are Fossil Ferns from Llewellyn Formation 6th is a Hyracodon jaw fragment I would like to ask if the sellers' description of the items are accurate and/or if they are restored, enhanced or composites. Cheers!
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Fake Megalodon Tooth ? and Others
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Good Morning everyone, I have a toddler who recently got very much into dinosaurs and fossils which eventually brought back all my childhood afflictions and memories to same. We stopped my a small fossil shop near Austin where we both went crazy with all the variety. Needless to say he got some very nice, small items. I spent quite a lot on a few pieces with the hype and childhood yearn to always have in possession a few Real items. Upon our arrival at home and in closer inspection as well as researching online, I'm not sure if I purchased authentic fossils. PLEASE HELP ME! My first post with is a Megalodon Tooth that he said was fused on a crack. I’ll post some others thereafter. -
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Well, I’m finally getting to dig into my truckload of fossils from my Wyoming trip with @RJB so it’s my turn to open up a prep thread. I spent a couple hours today poking around to find the perfect fish to start with. The 18” layer never disappoints. This good sized Diplomystus has 2 Knightia on top of it. I’m going to try to save both but I’m concerned that the right hand one is covering most of the Diplo’s skull. If that’s the case, the little guy will have to go! This is after about 90 minutes of scribe work.
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FYI @Ptychodus04 @Kittenmittens @mamlambo @Fossilis Willis @Malcolmt @DevonianDigger Well managed to get out last Friday to dig up some Green River fish from the split fish layers. These layers aren't nice and hard like the 18 inch, nor are the rarer fish as obtainable (they don't preserve as well), but you can still find some pretty cool stuff. A family next to me found a foot long Phareodus in perfect condition with a dark red color (forgot to take a picture of that). I don't think they realize just how lucky they are because those are not easy to find. The night before it rained a ton so I had a hard time getting to the quarry. The oily lime based rock wouldn't split properly until about noon but I hauled some decent Knightia's out. These aren't your prized, rare, fish but they are still a blast to dig up. Pulled out about fifty and worked all day. With all the mud and rain I seriously didn't think anyone would show up but Friday was very busy. About fifty in total came. The morning was tough. Lots of muddy rock to split and it just didn't want to split evenly. Everything would crumble on me. As you can see in the picture below things were muddy and wet. This Knightia has some pretty nice curves. Another curvaceous fossil. I'm in love. The split fish come in their varieties. Usually I only keep the ones that are completely filled in then put a sealant over them. This one looks alright considering it's a bit patchy. This one will be fun to prepare with my new CP9361 and some very careful handling of the scribe. This is one of my A grade Knightia's from the trip. Great color. The tail can be teased out a bit more. I really like how the vertebrae pop out in a 3D manner. Keep on fossiling!
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Hi everyone, are parts of this Knightia painted? Bought from a pretty reputable dealer, not a dubious random online seller.
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i just got this knightia fossil recently and i was wondering if there anyway to protect it from flaking because they look pretty thin to me . I'm only an amateur collector and joined the forum recently so i'm don't know much about stuff like this.
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I bought a small set of paints recently in a medium I had never used before, gouache. It's a lot like watercolor, but more opaque. I've always liked the look of watercolor but I've been more comfortable with acrylics. I thought I'd give the gouache paints a try, and I think I'm going to like them. Here's a Knightia I painted today, with an attached fossil Knightia. At least I think it's a Knightia. It's not preserved terribly well. I'm planning on painting some more knightia, probably a school of them, then a Diplomystus and maybe move on from there. It should be interesting.
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From the album: Green River Formation
This is a 4.5 inch long Knightia eocaena. Many of the bones in this specimen are articulated and intact. Note the preservation of the vertebrae. The skin is also very well preserved. -
From the album: Green River Formation
This is a 4 inch long Knightia eocaena? (I have some reservations that this might be a diplomystus, if anyone can help me on this it would be appreciated!). I should first note this is the first fossil fish I've ever prepared. I prepped this guy using only a set of metal sculpting tools for clay and I think it came out pretty good. -
The Green River Formation is one of the most well-known fossil sites in the world, occupying present-day Colorado, Utah and Wyoming. This Lagerstätte has been noted for its well-preserved fish fossils, as well as numerous invertebrates, plants, and sometimes even reptiles and birds. Green River fossils are Eocene-aged, at 53.5 to 48.5 million years old. Thankfully, not only are Green River fossils attractive, they also remain affordable to the casual collector. Allow me to present my humble collection. Crocodile tooth Borealosuchus sp. Southwest Wyoming Water bird tracks (possibly sandpipers or plovers) Presbyorniformipes feduccii Vernal, Utah Bird feather Aves indet. Southwest Wyoming Crane flies & Mosquitoes Pronophlebia rediviva & Culex sp. Parachute Creek Member; Douglas Pass, Colorado
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From the album: MY FOSSIL Collection - Dpaul7
Knightia eoceana Fish fossil Fossil Lake, Green River Formation, Wyoming Eocene Epoch - Approximately 52-58 Million Years Old Knightia is an extinct genus of clupeid clupeiform bony fish that lived in the fresh water lakes and rivers of North America and Asia during the Eocene epoch. The genus was erected by David Starr Jordan in 1907, in honor of the late University of Wyoming professor Wilbur Clinton Knight, "an indefatigable student of the paleontology of the Rocky Mountains." It is the state fossil of Wyoming,and the most commonly excavated fossil fish in the world. In Knightia fish, rows of dorsal and ventral scutes run from the back of the head to the medial fins. They had heavy scales, and small conical teeth. Their size varied by species: Knightia eocaena was the longest, growing up to 25 centimeters (10 inches), though most specimens are no larger than 15 centimeters. Kingdom: Animalia Phylum: Chordata Class: Actinopterygii Order: Clupeidae Family: Pellonulinae Genus: †Knightia Species: †eoceana-
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I am new to this forum, and I was pleasantly surprised with the friendly and immediate, helpful, educated responses I received when I asked for help ID-ing dromaeosur teeth! Thank you Troodon and Runner64 for your help! This seems like an active, educated forum where lovers of prehistoric life can gather to discuss fossils, and the like. So, I would like to show off my fossil collection, and discuss things about the small amount of material I have in my personal collection! Feel free to show me your collections as well, I would love to see them! So without further ado, on to my fossils!
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Greetings! I found this the other day. They just don't look right to me. They're awfully dark, and seem to have eyes even. I'm not thinking of buying, just testing my judgement. Real of Fake? Unfortunately this is the only photo I have.
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From the album: Vertebrates
Knightia from eocene of USA