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  1. Paleontology12345

    What is this

    Hi all what could this possibly be. Found along a river bed in Canada. I think might be ivory because of the lines seen on the black side. Quite heavy,. Note the fossils in the growth lines on the totally flat/ smooth side.
  2. JoshRockz

    Peace river report 5/15

    Hello everyone! Reporting back from a trip to the peace yesterday 5/15! It ended up being a really beautiful day! Taking into consideration that we’ve been pushing into the upper 90s lately I was not looking forward to that 2pm heat stroke in my wetsuit. However I saw the depth drop back down after these heavy rains and figured I had maybe a few more trips before the gators, bugs and rain kick me out for the season for good! I launched from Wauchula to go to the usual gravel islands upriver and only saw 1 juvenile gator where as a few weeks ago I saw 3 6-8 footers. I was hoping it being early and chilly they were somewhere away from me. I guess I’ll never know! The areas I was digging in only had a foot and some inches of gravel before hitting the limestone. This was frustrating as I spent all night reading to refresh myself on “DIG DEEPER” philosophy we are all so familiar with. I was finding the usual, frags and smalls with nothing really to show for my efforts so I headed back downstream and spent a few hours at one spot with similar efforts. I decided to drift back down to the boat ramp and pass it because there was a 4 footer guarding the gravel bar near the bridge. I ended up at a spot with a few people who had walked in about 50-100 yards downstream. They decided to leave and as they were passing me one of them stepped into a few foot hole. I thought that would be a good spot to dig as it looked 2 feet deeper than the one I had started digging in and I wasn’t wanting to put in any more serious effort for the day. After about 10 minutes of digging around that hole I noticed the gravel / rocks in this area were larger than the upriver gravel bars I was at earlier. I also pulled out 2 bullet casing, one 22 and one I couldn’t identify and some colored brown glass. Even though this layer I was digging in was basically clay textured karst / white matrix it was almost impossible to get through with my non spade tipped shovel. I started to widen out a little bit on the layer of gravel above the matrix and then I pulled this out... Sometimes this place makes me wonder if I should buy a lottery ticket on the way home. Could anyone give me some more info on this find? The Facebook group I am on suggested mammoth, and maybe Colombian mammoth. This is definitely the best tooth I have found on the river so far!
  3. TOM BUCKLEY

    MAMMOTH IVORY

    Is a mammoth tusk ivory or has it been mineralized? Thanks. Tom
  4. It's been a challenging season on the Peace River for various reasons. Was sidelined for most of Feb and March with some minor health issues and forbidden by my doctor (and wife) from going in the water until all was healed. Add to that what appears to be a tremendous amount of sand built up in some of my favorite hunting spots by last seasons heavy rains. Then throw in a lot of debris restricting portions of the river to narrow passages. All together it has hindered my luck with any major finds. Can only hope for some of the success our friend Jack - @Shellseeker has been having lately! That said- I still feel blessed to be able to hunt on the river pretty much whenever I choose. I am attaching some photos of the river here that show the downed trees, sandbars and debris that need to be negotiated to travel to one of my old dig sites and a few shots of some of this seasons finds so far. Last season I posted more trip reports and wanted to at least try to catch up with one for those who are interested in seeing photos of the river and some recent fossil discoveries. This initial shot shows the open river with what looks like a dead end ahead I knew the river took a bend to the right ahead so I kept on with the hope of finding my way through. The following shots are of the debris encountered and a sandbar that needed to be skirted to keep going - I was able to squeeze by to the right here and follow the curve of the river. on the next turn I came upon a sandbar stretching almost all the way across Got by this one and then was faced with a few trees that were not present last season This one looked impassable but as I got closer I saw a way through It first required a weave left, then back to the right and eventually threading through several underwater obstructions A few challenges to keep things interesting! Thankfully, the flow was slow and I didn't have to fight a current pushing me into any of the debris. With that paddling report I will finish with some recent finds that make it all worth it. My first mammoth tooth of the season was what I think is a "spit tooth"- Picked up right off the bottom just to the left of where @Bone Daddy is standing in the picture of him in his latest posting, I missed the horse tooth, lol. My second mammoth find of the season was another one I spotted in less than a foot of water and was able to just bend down and pick it off the bottom - This one was found much farther south, below Payne Creek State Park. One of my favorites so far is this whale tooth - one of only three I have found in the last three years- A few more miscellaneous finds that included a dolphin tooth, gator teeth, dugong tooth crown, horse incisor, half a tapir tooth crown and a broken llama tooth fragment. These finds keep me coming back for more. I'll be back out there next week and hope to finish off the season with some more interesting finds! Good Hunting to all!
  5. This would be my first Mammoth Molar I'm preparing again in 10 years. My first one was a 10lb Mammoth molar. This one is quite small of course since it's from a calf. It has been laying in right water for 1,5 months and at the moment I'm glueing the last 4 pieces since it's precision work with this small piece. I'm really glad I picked up on this one (Found in Maasvlakte, Netherlands). I found it in pretty poor condition you guys can see in the pictures. But I have never seen this molar, so I'm amazed anyways! I will show you guys the full picture when it is all done! If anyone has tips too for my next prepairs, I will take any advice and tips!
  6. Shellseeker

    Rivergods smiled

    Sometimes it is hard to believe how lucky I am in hunting fossils. I was on the Peace River prospecting. Mostly small teeth (no GWs, Makos, Megs). My find of the day was half a giant tortoise humerus. With the afternoon moving to a close, this Tusk dropped into my sieve. I think that this is a Mammoth yearling and I am looking for confirmation or skepticism. 1) It is about 7 inches long with the tip broken. It is 2.25 inches (57 mm) in diameter at the butt. 2) The butt end I believe to be round rather than oval and not broken. I have seen many broken tusks and they do not have concentric circles in a flat pattern. 3) The segment is straight , not curved. There is a Youtube video on Woolly Mammoth tusk growth. It seems to curve after the 1st year. In the photo, my find might be the green section. 4) I will figure out Mastodon versus Mammoth once I allow the tusk to dry and see the schreger lines. Hopefully, TFF will be able to ID first.. @digit has been playing with hosenose tusks and @Harry Pristis has lots of skills in all fossils Florida. Please chime in... I will check responses with my cell. This is one of those rare occasions where I am going hunting on back to back days.. I must be feeling my oats.
  7. Wisco river rat

    Mammoth tooth?

    Found this in Texas pretty sure it's a mammoth but not a 100% sure figured I would ask about it here
  8. I just received this Woolly Mammoth Tooth from Russia and am sharing it with the forum for discussion. It appears to have been coated with a clear substance like poly urethane (At the tip of one root is a solidified drop). The specimen measures approximately 7”x6”x3”
  9. Friends, daddy/daughter recent extensive beach fossil hunt yielded lots of fossils. My daughter and I found the piece pictured below, which shares the same color of the teeth we find in North Florida but has the most unusual intersecting lines in a very regular pattern leading me to a multiple week search. We *think* we see Schreger lines and my 9 year old daughter is quite literally exploding with excitement. Can this community of experts who have helped do IDs in the past help us figure this out? If these are Schreger lines is there a way to determine whether these are likely mastodon, mammoth or other proboscidean fossil? Thank you all in advance.
  10. Shellseeker

    Juvenile Mammoth

    Got up early, went out hunting to a favorite location with good friends. I had searched this spot so often that I went in believing that I would have to prospect new locations before today was over. Turned out not to be true. After 5-10 small shark teeth in each of the 1st 2 sieves, this interesting fossil fell into my lap. It is 6.5 inches long and 2.75 inches at its widest point. Going to be a great day. I will make some observations. 1) At 2.75 inches wide, it is far smaller than the width of an adult tooth and must be from a juvenile. 2) It consists of approximately 3 plates. A complete juvenile tooth might be 10-12+ plates 3) The section I have found has not been chewed upon YET.. It was likely un_erupted when the juvenile died. 4) Maybe redundant to #3, the section I have found is 100% enamel, 0% roots/dentin/cementum Questions: When one of my friends looked at the fossil, he said that I had found the "posterior" end of the tooth, because the "fingers" you see, are only present in this volume on the posterior end. News to me, for Mammoth tooth experts, is it true? Here is a very interesting link https://www.fossilera.com/pages/about-mammoth-molars which includes this discussion: So, if there are 2 set of deciduous teeth between Age 3 and Age 20, let's speculate that each set lasts more or less 8 years... My find was being created as a "deciduous" tooth, and creation of a deciduous tooth happens around 4 years of age and 12 years of age. My gut feeling looking at a lot of deciduous mammoth teeth, many medium in size and many larger in size is that my find is one of the larger "juvenile teeth" created at Age 12. All comments appreciated, especially from someone who knows about sizes of deciduous mammoth teeth. p.s. I did take some comfort in seeing scientific papers that estimated modern elephant age based on tooth size... and the comments that it should also apply to Mammoths.
  11. Mikebhrndt2

    Mastodon and Mammoth Teeth?

    Wondering about these teeth...can someone please help ID these? I have two that I think are Mastodon and Mammoth but not 100% sure. Thanks for the help! IMG_9860.HEIC IMG_0209.HEIC
  12. Zenmaster6

    Mastodon? South Texas

    I found this by Corpus Christi. I am 90% sure this is a mastodon crown but would love some confirmation and then I found this tusk with cross hatching and I don't know if its mastodon or mammoth Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you fossil forumers!
  13. Big piece of skin, is this actual mammoth skin? Seller says it's from Yakutia.
  14. Carl

    Mammoth Wannabe

    Found this odd bone fragment on Asbury Park Beach in New Jersey last Saturday. The only thing that comes to mind is a fragment of mammoth skull, but that seems like a bit of wishful thinking. Any thoughts?
  15. Oxytropidoceras

    Recent mammoth tooth finds

    A couple of recent mammoth tooth finds are: A. Camano Island, Washington (state), mammoth tooth Camano family finds woolly mammoth tooth on the beach By Evan Caldwell, Stanwood Cammano News, Jan. 30, 2021 Woolly mammoth tooth discovered on Camano Island By KIRO 7 News Staff, KIRO, Channel 7, January 31, 2021 Camano Island, Washington - Wikipedia B. Chernivtsi region mammoth tooth Tooth of 300,000-year-old mammoth found in Chernivtsi region, UAZMI News UkrInform: Tooth of 300,000-year-old mammoth found in Chernivtsi region, UkrInform, January 20, 2021 Chernivtsi Oblast, Ukraine - Wikipedia Yours, Paul H.
  16. PrehistoricWonders

    Attaching ivory

    Hi all! I was wondering if anyone could tell me how to Attach two pieces of ivory? I tried gluing, but it didn’t work well. I stabilized it with a 50/50 clear elmers/water mixture, and it’s pretty solid now, but I don’t know what to do because I still can’t glue it.
  17. Hi! Back when I was 10-12 I was hiking in Iowa when I found this "dinosaur tooth rock", which I have carried around for almost 25 years. I have always wondered if it was part of a mammoth tusk, a tooth, or maybe even a Native American whetstone. Or possibly just a weird rock? Any ideas? Thanks so much for any input!! Specs: Weighs = 2 lbs Length = 7 inches Circumference = 8.75 inches Height = 2 inches
  18. Mammoth tusks found off Florida’s coast from Aquanutz Scuba Diving Charters Largest Tusk nearly 8-feet in length and 22-inches around on the fat end of the tusk. By Noel Rehm, WWSB, Sarasota, Florida, December 30, 2020 Yours, Paul H.
  19. austinswamp

    Mammoth/Mastadon fragment

    Found in alluvial deposits along a creek in Travis county, TX. Thanks for the look
  20. Jim Kovalchick

    I think this is a mammoth fragment

    I found this at Myrtle Beach. It looks to me like a worn mammoth tooth fragment, but I'm interested in opinions of others. The rock is very dense, and where it is chipped it has strips of varying light and dark colors. It is a little larger than a baseball. I assume that much of the wear is from rolling in the surf. I will post other views in replies. Thanks, Jim Kovalchick
  21. Scientists Find Mammoth Seemingly Butchered by Humans on Arctic Island, Gizmodo, Dec. 9, 2020 The presentation is: O. Potapova, I.S. Pavlov, V.V. Plotnikov, E. Maschenko, M. Dehasque, B. Shapiro, L. Dalen, N. Suzuki, J.F. Hoffecker, A. Protopopov, 2020. A New Woolly Mammoth, Mammuthus primigenius (Blumenbach, 1799) from Kotelny Island, Novosibirsk Archipelago, Russia. 80th Society of Vertebrate Paleontology Annual Meeting (October 12-16, 2020) 80th Society of Vertebrate Paleontology Annual Meeting (October 12-16, 2020) Abstracts Yours, Paul H.
  22. This is my second mammoth tusk of the year, but while the first I found was rock solid and all that remained was one side of the tusk, this one is whole and a lot more fragile. After getting it home I made the stupid decision to wash it off in the sink, thinking that the sandstone matrix adhering to the tusk was just ordinary sand and river gravel and would come off just as easily. Instead, the water soaked into the tusk's core and when I tried picking it up it snapped in half. It took a couple of days sitting under a window and wrapped in paper towels for the water to finally get drawn back out, but the damage was clearly already done. The outer surface of the tusk is pretty thoroughly mineralized, but the inside is incredibly crumbly. I've seen several posts on the forum already about using butvar solution to stabilize mammoth tusks, but I couldn't find anything that gave a clear, step-by-step guide that would be easy enough for a newbie like me to follow. Aside from stabilizing the tusk, I'd also obviously need to glue the two broken halves back together where they broke apart. However, that's complicated by the fact that tiny pieces of the ivory fell off in the area around the crack when it broke. If you look close in the pictures, you can see that the two halves don't meet up perfectly in the middle anymore. Is there some sort of epoxy or something I could use to fill in that gap? The side of the tusk with the sandstone accretions: The side of the tusk without the sandstone accretions:
  23. PODIGGER

    Proboscidean Ulna

    Since the Peace River, FL has been running deep and fast for the last few weeks I decided to spend some time prepping and making a display for several proboscidean bones found in the spring. After posting the bones for id here when they were found and doing a bit of research on my own I believe what I have are pieces of an ulna from either a Mammoth or Mastodon. There is the possibility of Gomph, but Dr. Hulbert has informed me a couple of times that Gomph specimens have not yet been found in the Peace River. So first up is a photo of the four ulna sections along with the other specimens found that day. Several pieces in the pink plastic bucket were later able to be reattached to a couple of the ulna sections. I did come up with one additional ulna section on a return visit to the same spot later that week. Next is a photo of the four ulna pieces lined up for an overall idea of size. Two of these large pieces were able to be put back together after consolidation and formed the standing piece in the display. They are the two in the middle in the below photo. Finally, three photos of the completed display with rulers to get an idea of proportion. The metal ruler laying flat is 15" overall. The standing portion of the display consists of two pieces I was able to glue back together after consolidation it measures about 20". Two of the pieces laying flat had smaller pieces from the pink bucket in the first photo reattached after everything was consolidated with acetone and PVA beads. I used some scrap wood to make the tray table and post support. Some soft toy modeling clay was used to rest the base of the upright bone on. Clay was also used to form a ball over the top of the wooden support post to prevent the post from damaging the specimen. The tray table was filled with sand to lay the additional pieces on and give it a finishing touch. Looking forward to getting back to the Peace River in the coming week to see what new wonders have been uncovered by the summer rainy season!
  24. GPayton

    Mammoth Radius?

    Found on the Brazos River several months ago. Although worn and incomplete, it seems like there's enough diagnostic features to make an identifcation possible, at least in my mind. After searching the forum and the Internet for anything comparable, the closest match I was able to find was the proximal end of a mammoth radius - mostly because of the shape of the articular facet and the areas surrounding it. Obviously mammoth bones are huge, but from the pictures I've seen it looks like even though the radius itself is very long, it only broadens towards the distal end. Any help would be appreciated, even if it does mean calling me crazy!
  25. Hi im and amateur collector and I'm not sure if the was the right section to post this under. I purchased this tusk a couple years ago. The seller said he's had it since the 1970s. Because of the large crack from top to bottom and the inside is quite powdery. Is there and thing I can do to preserve it? Its about 6.5 feet along the curve and 120lb so I get worried when I move it. Also I see that great patina on some tusks is that something that is added 5o make it shine or does it comes out of the ground like that? Any help would be appreciated!
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