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Very small Cladodont (Falcatidae?) Tooth in Phosphatic Nodule ( Missouri )
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Location: Missouri Period: Pennsylvanian Formation: Iola Limestone (Muncie Creek Shale Member) Hello once again! Today I have a fossil tooth that I happened to have seen while going through my old phosphatic nodules from Muncie Creek and was wondering if anyone could identify it further than a Cladodont tooth. I have googled images of Cladodont teeth and believe it to possible be a tooth belonging to Falcatidae, but what do you think? It resembles a few of these teeth on the chart below in size and form, hence why i'm making the guess of it being a Falcatid even though my tooth has very slight differences in lengths of each cusplet. I will note that my specimen seems to have 6 cusps total, while the specimens below that it most resembles has 5. Here is the size in mm. The last thing I wanted to note is that it might be next to possible coprolitic material, although it's hard to tell as coprolites in these nodules looks very similar to just a phosphate center, although if you find inclusions its almost guaranteed. Example of an obvious coprolite and a not so obvious coprolite from these nodules.- 7 replies
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Location is in Missouri The area is dated to the Pennsylvanian Formation: Muncie Creek Shale Found this very small tooth like structure and was wondering if anyone could confirm if it is a tooth or not. Normally I can identify teeth if they are large enough, but this specimen is very small. I have found teeth before in these concretions but much larger such as a possible Symmorium or Glikmanius along with a tooth from a member of Eugeneodontida. Here are some images I edited that might make some details more clearer:
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From the album: Muncie Creek Shale Phosphatic Nodules
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I believe the dark brown may indeed be skin while the blue part is cartilage.-
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Nodule #7: Possible Fish body part with what could be skin impressions
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From the album: Muncie Creek Shale Phosphatic Nodules
One of my larger concretions, I find this one very interesting and plan to dig out the rest of it once I learn how to prep fossils from concretions! -
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This concretion came out in multiple parts and I was able to salvage the tip. I will restore this specimen and prep it in the future!-
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From the album: Muncie Creek Shale Phosphatic Nodules
The second half of the cartilage pterygiophores When breaking the concretion most of the internal structure was unfortunately damaged -
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From the album: Muncie Creek Shale Phosphatic Nodules
My best guess is fish material or crustacean material-
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I assume this is some sort of bone either from a fish or some sort of other specimen. It could be a spine of some sort but I am extremely doubtful -
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One of a few teeth I have from Eugeneodontida-
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From the album: Muncie Creek Shale Phosphatic Nodules
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Thanks goes to Connorp for the ID!- 2 comments
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Is there enough left of this fish tooth to identify it? ( Missouri )
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Location: Missouri Period: Pennsylvanian Formation: Iola Limestone (Muncie Creek Shale Member or Raytown limestone member) Hello! I happened to take a trip to my usual fossil hunting spots in search of another tooth that was stuck in a rock I planned to dig out but found this delicate one before it and took it home. Sadly this was missing most of its pieces but I thought it could be identified. I couldn't really think of anything it most resembles as it does not look like my Campodus teeth or Petalodus teeth. That's mostly why I posted it here but it very well could have been from them as they are the most common of the teeth I find there. Sorry in advance I got a new phone recently and it does not take as high quality pictures as my old one. Rotated: rotated again Measurements:- 4 replies
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Location: Missouri Period: Pennsylvanian Formation: Iola Limestone (Muncie Creek Shale Member) Hello! I have happened to come across a strange structure while attempting to retrieve a fossil from a limestone rock. While breaking the stone around this nodule the force was enough to separate 2/3rds of the fossil leaving the other section still in a massive slab of limestone that will need more time to dig out Nevertheless here is the structure in question Rotated: 1 of the 2 pieces I was able to retrieve and contains the round "ball structures": I will note I have seen the odd "ball" pattern once before from a post I made over a year ago and I was unable to get it properly identified beyond it possibly being fish ribs/support structures or something else, but I'm hoping this new perspective will help nail down this mystery. I decided to retake some of my original photos since my old device was restricted in file/image size
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Anyone Good with Fish braincases/Skull Material? (Some are very incomplete) ( Missouri )
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Location: Missouri Formation: Muncie Creek Shale Time Period: Pennsylvanian I have found many things in the phosphatic nodules from the Muncie Creek Shale formation ranging from scales, bones, coprolites and in some cases braincases or skull material however I have found very little of braincases and I was curious if someone could identify what they either belong to or in case of specimen #1 if it is indeed a braincase I was also wondering if someone could possibly link me to some material relating to Pennsylvanian period braincases as It may help me to better identify such material Specimen #1 I posted this one to this site quite some time ago but never got a response to what it was but I am not 100% sure if its braincase or just some other bone material or even the aforementioned coprolite Unfortunately for these last 2 specimens they are incomplete due to my inexperience 2 years ago when I first cracked them open. I neglected to collect the rest of the pieces hence why I have hesitated to show them on this site for the shame of losing something potentially scientifically valuable, nevertheless I was wondering if they could be identified Specimen #2 This one is 100% a braincase but i do not know what it belongs too and wish for identification if possible from the fragment i have Specimen #3 I only think the one above might be skull material is due to how it looks similar to my other more obvious skull/braincase that I own here is a photo of the one I'm describing, which i did have all pieces for: -
From the album: Missouri Ammonoids, Nautiloids and Gastropods
Here are some more detailed/more lit up areas of the shell and the other half other half- 2 comments
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From the album: Muncie Creek Shale Phosphatic Nodules
https://i.ibb.co/K0N2mGV/20211117-194532-HDR.jpg https://i.ibb.co/KmZQM6p/20211117-194520-HDR.jpg This is the largest I have found out of the 3 specimens I have (One isn't shown in this album due to being incomplete). the othe two exhibit Yellow hues-
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hello! I went fossil hunting a few hours ago and while doing so I came across a phosphatic nodule that was naturally opened most likely due to freeze thawing Formation: Muncie Creek Shale nevertheless I was wondering if someone could confirm if this is a Campodus sp. tooth as I am assuming it is since it resembles my other Campodus teeth and also wanted to see if anyone can help me remove the the mud from this tooth without damaging the fossil inside by giving advice/Tips I do not have any prep tools Without further delay here is the specimen in question Unfortunately due to being opened naturally and not found soon after some of the pieces have fallen out and gotten mud into it, I only had about 10 minutes left of daylight so I plan to return to the location tomorrow after work to find more fragments the side on the left is the one with the most dirt i wish to remove any advice is welcome!
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