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From the album: Missouri Conulariids
A lot of my conulariid finds tend to be broken at or near the tip of the apex, even before the attachment which is typical of other conulariid specimens. I am not sure if it is a plane of weakness, a common feature when the animal dies, or simple predation, but when I collected this specimen from the Paola limestone the lower half was missing from the rest of the slab, despite being an almost clean fracture. -
Very small Cladodont (Falcatidae?) Tooth in Phosphatic Nodule ( Missouri )
Samurai posted a topic in Fossil ID
Location: Missouri Period: Pennsylvanian Formation: Iola Limestone (Muncie Creek Shale Member) Hello once again! Today I have a fossil tooth that I happened to have seen while going through my old phosphatic nodules from Muncie Creek and was wondering if anyone could identify it further than a Cladodont tooth. I have googled images of Cladodont teeth and believe it to possible be a tooth belonging to Falcatidae, but what do you think? It resembles a few of these teeth on the chart below in size and form, hence why i'm making the guess of it being a Falcatid even though my tooth has very slight differences in lengths of each cusplet. I will note that my specimen seems to have 6 cusps total, while the specimens below that it most resembles has 5. Here is the size in mm. The last thing I wanted to note is that it might be next to possible coprolitic material, although it's hard to tell as coprolites in these nodules looks very similar to just a phosphate center, although if you find inclusions its almost guaranteed. Example of an obvious coprolite and a not so obvious coprolite from these nodules.
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Is there enough left of this fish tooth to identify it? ( Missouri )
Samurai posted a topic in Fossil ID
Location: Missouri Period: Pennsylvanian Formation: Iola Limestone (Muncie Creek Shale Member or Raytown limestone member) Hello! I happened to take a trip to my usual fossil hunting spots in search of another tooth that was stuck in a rock I planned to dig out but found this delicate one before it and took it home. Sadly this was missing most of its pieces but I thought it could be identified. I couldn't really think of anything it most resembles as it does not look like my Campodus teeth or Petalodus teeth. That's mostly why I posted it here but it very well could have been from them as they are the most common of the teeth I find there. Sorry in advance I got a new phone recently and it does not take as high quality pictures as my old one. Rotated: rotated again Measurements: -
Location: Missouri Period: Pennsylvanian Formation: Iola Limestone (Muncie Creek Shale Member) Hello! I have happened to come across a strange structure while attempting to retrieve a fossil from a limestone rock. While breaking the stone around this nodule the force was enough to separate 2/3rds of the fossil leaving the other section still in a massive slab of limestone that will need more time to dig out Nevertheless here is the structure in question Rotated: 1 of the 2 pieces I was able to retrieve and contains the round "ball structures": I will note I have seen the odd "ball" pattern once before from a post I made over a year ago and I was unable to get it properly identified beyond it possibly being fish ribs/support structures or something else, but I'm hoping this new perspective will help nail down this mystery. I decided to retake some of my original photos since my old device was restricted in file/image size
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From the album: Muncie Creek Shale Phosphatic Nodules
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From the album: Missouri Ammonoids, Nautiloids and Gastropods
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hello! I went fossil hunting a few hours ago and while doing so I came across a phosphatic nodule that was naturally opened most likely due to freeze thawing Formation: Muncie Creek Shale nevertheless I was wondering if someone could confirm if this is a Campodus sp. tooth as I am assuming it is since it resembles my other Campodus teeth and also wanted to see if anyone can help me remove the the mud from this tooth without damaging the fossil inside by giving advice/Tips I do not have any prep tools Without further delay here is the specimen in question Unfortunately due to being opened naturally and not found soon after some of the pieces have fallen out and gotten mud into it, I only had about 10 minutes left of daylight so I plan to return to the location tomorrow after work to find more fragments the side on the left is the one with the most dirt i wish to remove any advice is welcome!
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Anyone Good with Fish braincases/Skull Material? (Some are very incomplete) ( Missouri )
Samurai posted a topic in Fossil ID
Location: Missouri Formation: Muncie Creek Shale Time Period: Pennsylvanian I have found many things in the phosphatic nodules from the Muncie Creek Shale formation ranging from scales, bones, coprolites and in some cases braincases or skull material however I have found very little of braincases and I was curious if someone could identify what they either belong to or in case of specimen #1 if it is indeed a braincase I was also wondering if someone could possibly link me to some material relating to Pennsylvanian period braincases as It may help me to better identify such material Specimen #1 I posted this one to this site quite some time ago but never got a response to what it was but I am not 100% sure if its braincase or just some other bone material or even the aforementioned coprolite Unfortunately for these last 2 specimens they are incomplete due to my inexperience 2 years ago when I first cracked them open. I neglected to collect the rest of the pieces hence why I have hesitated to show them on this site for the shame of losing something potentially scientifically valuable, nevertheless I was wondering if they could be identified Specimen #2 This one is 100% a braincase but i do not know what it belongs too and wish for identification if possible from the fragment i have Specimen #3 I only think the one above might be skull material is due to how it looks similar to my other more obvious skull/braincase that I own here is a photo of the one I'm describing, which i did have all pieces for: -
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From the album: Muncie Creek Shale Phosphatic Nodules
I contacted someone who I had sent my prior braincase too and they have been busy since the pandemic started hence it stays in my collection till im either contacted again or if someone else does other half: Other pictures: -
Lower part of a chondrichthyan Jaw in phosphatic nodule? (Missouri)
Samurai posted a topic in Fossil ID
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From the album: Muncie Creek Shale Phosphatic Nodules
From time to time you can find these little guys in these phosphate concretions as well as some pretty cool stuff -
Location: Missouri Time period: Pennsylvanian Formation: Muncie Creek Shale I have found fish coprolites before but I am not sure what this is as I am not an expert in coprolite identification. It is possible its something else entirely or simply nothing. https://postimg.cc/svXtnbQT https://postimg.cc/MnfgwRYR https://postimg.cc/2q4JbDMS https://postimg.cc/dZ0SxT1h
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Location: Missouri Time period: Pennsylvanian Formation: Muncie Creek Shale Hello! I found this quite some time ago and did not know what sort of fish material it could be. I am fairly certain it's something fishy as I have found plenty of chondrichthyan teeth, body parts, bones and a few fish coprolites during my nodule cracking adventures. More images: https://imgur.com/a/s9NIiRy
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Nodule #18: Fish Coprolite with many bone fragments
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From the album: Muncie Creek Shale Phosphatic Nodules
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Location: Missouri Time period: Pennsylvanian Formation: Muncie Creek Shale Hello! I have opened this structure a long time ago and I always wondered what it could be since it seemed like bone. I have other small sized bony structures, most that I assume are coprolites of some sort and I would love to know what this is! Other half of concretion Images in natural file sizes: https://imgur.com/a/DsgxFCA
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From the album: Muncie Creek Shale Phosphatic Nodules
4.1cm Fish coprolite This particular section has a little bit of Cartilage from what I presume it had consumed millions of years ago Both sides of the Concretion/Nodule -
Location: Missouri Time period: Pennsylvanian Formation: Muncie Creek Shale From a collection of Muncie Creek Shale nodules Specimen #1: Starting with the best preserved specimen ( I think this is for sure a fish mandible) backside of the nodule Complete nodule More Images: https://imgur.com/a/3rhBqsR Specimen #2: had flash on in order to make it easier to see More images: https://imgur.com/a/7S3iJIA Specimen #3: This one I was not too sure about as it was only half a nodule when I found it, which unfortunately means most of it is eroded and were unable to find its other half It seems to have the general shape of the first specimen I had even though it's missing most of its pieces If I need to retake some images please let me know! I wish to identify what these belonged to.
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Nodule#15: Fish Scales And Small Fragmented bones
Samurai posted a gallery image in Member Collections
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From the album: Muncie Creek Shale Phosphatic Nodules
I previously posted this onto fossil Id and unfortunately no one could come up with a good identification but I was told there were some skull fragments in this piece from the user Jdp Any Ids are Very much welcomed I suspect this is fish coprolite or fish regurgitation -
Hello! this is one of my weirdest things I have found at this location, I believe it might be a fragment from a fin spine? A piece from an Echinoid? Something else? I would love to know what it is and what species this came from! Some information on the area: Location: Missouri Time period: Pennsylvanian Formation: Most likely from a member of the Iola Limestone What makes this one of the most bizarre fossils I have found is the circular pattern on the fossil itself, as I have not seen anything like this in the area before. backside Pictures in their natural file size: https://imgur.com/a/qUWY0gB
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Hello! I found these beautiful scales inside a calcium phosphate nodule from Muncie Creek Shale. I believe this fish regurgitation might have some identifiable scales and I would love to know if anyone can nail down an exact species! Location: Missouri Time period: Pennsylvanian Formation: Muncie Creek Shale The center scale is roughly 9mm long! Concretion with Size reference other half of the concretion other half rotated More images and in their natural size (Not compressed) https://imgur.com/a/pWKw9Vk
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Location: Missouri Time period: Pennsylvanian Formation: Muncie creek shale Hello! I was hunting in one of my favorite spots and saw a very weird structure coming out of a Muncie Creek Shale nodule and what I think it could possibly be is a piece of crustacean exoskeleton! If I'm lucky that is! I am not exactly sure why I know its different but it does not look like crushed shells from other brachiopods in the area and looks to be layered horizontally. My personal theories: Weirdly preserved Brachiopod, Crustacean Exoskeleton, Natural formation that I have not seen in the area before or something else entirely. I would love to know any information and would love to use this as a learning experience! Size: 3.4cm Images in their natural sizes (Not compressed): https://imgur.com/a/8c3o4Jd
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Hello! I have been cracking open a few more concretions from Muncie Creek and I cracked open this bizarre fossil! I know braincases have been found in these nodules since I have found a braincase of Lawrenciella, and donated a braincase that was found to have parts of the upper jaw! My main reasoning for asking if this is a braincase is that it has a few bizarre structures I have not seen in other concretion fossils. The chance that it is an ordinary bone is very much a possibility. on the left you can see that there are these repeating structures Here is a more zoomed in image. Here is the image zoomed out for refrence. Below are images of the bizarre round patterns that are visible on the fossil Some general info on the area: Location: Missouri Timer period: Pennsylvanian Formation: Muncie Creek Shale member Size refrence:
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Hello! I was cracking open some more phosphate nodules from the Muncie creek shale formation and had these stored in my room for a while! I was wondering if anyone could identify these very hard to determine fossils as I cannot tell if they contain bone fragments or if the fossils are from a coprolite! I think the one on the bottom right could be a either bone or coprolitic material More images of the specimen on the left which I believe is either fish excitement or fish vomit, I am unsure as I have found similar fossils to this inside some other nodules. Unsure what this one is as well! Any guess is welcomed! Location is in Missouri The area is dated to the Pennsylvanian Formation is the Muncie Creek Shale member
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From the album: Muncie Creek Shale Phosphatic Nodules
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Multiple Phosphatic Nodules from Muncie Creek Shale that I could not Identify ( Missouri )
Samurai posted a topic in Fossil ID
Location: Missouri Time period: Pennsylvanian Formation: Muncie Creek Shale Specimen 1: Fish Coprolite? 1.8cm (nodule size) Specimen 2: Coprolite? 2cm (nodule size) Specimen 3: Fish Mandible? (2.6cm) Specimen 4: Coprolite or Maybe Braincase (I think it is very unlikely that it is) 2.8cm Nodule size 1.5cm (fossil size) Specimen 5: (2.9cm) Note: The placement of the fossilized material might be wrong as this was one of my first nodules and the fossilized material fell out. I recovered what I could. (Opened roughly 2 months ago) Specimen 6: Tessellated Cartilage with some Skin impressions ? (2.5cm) Specimine 7: Fish material? Thank you for reading and viewing this, I hope I can better understand these images so I can use them as references in the future!
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