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Decided to take a trip to Deep Springs Road in hopes of finding a complete Dipleura dekayi fossil. I have only ever explored the Devonian shales of Erie county, so the differences in the fossils was really refreshing. I have put some of my interesting specimens below. Also I did find a few pieces of trash that I picked up. Please help keep the site clean if you visit! Thank you for the help identifying these fossils that are new to me. 1. Found within my first 20 minutes at DSR, I never sniffed Dipleura again the rest of the day! 2. A type of gonatite maybe? 3. Not sure about this one. 4. Another one that is new to me 5. What I think to be great preservation on this bivalve 6. Saw a lot of gastropods, none of this size. I am guessing this is another bivalve.
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After dinner I went back to the fossil site in Tully New York. I found one specimen that I am kind of excited about but need your opinion. The specimen definitely contains some pyritized cringed branches. But I think it may contain 2 calyxes as well. I will show you some pics. Pic #1 shows the whole specimen. Pic#2 shows a stem which appears to be connected to the light colored ball in the center of the light colored section of the rock. Pic #3 shows what I think may be a small damaged calyx with atleast one branch coming off. Pic #4 shows another branch and next to it, a small grouping of tiny branches or maybe pinnules. Pic #5 shows a cross- section of pyritized crinoid stem. My question is do you guys think this would be a good candidate for a professional prep? There seems to be a fair amount of stuff showing and there may be more that isn't. Plus everything appears to be pyritized. If there is a calyx there could be more branches attached. This would be a very sweet find for me. I appreciate any feedback. I will post pics of the other stuff later.
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The Devonian period is known as "The Age of Fish", but could also be known as "The Age of Brachiopods." In the Early / Lower Devonian, brachiopods reached the height of their diversity towards its end in the Emsian. We see the ancestral groups occurring, lingulids, craniids, orthids, protorthids, pentamerids, rhynchonellids and strophomenids, as well as the later successful groups we have seen before such as atrypids, athyrids and orthotetids, plus the rise of spiriferids, spiriferinids and productids and the beginning of the terebratulids. By the end of the Devonian , several of these groups are extinct or severely reduced in importance and brachiopods never quite recover. Also, the Devonian is the last time we see trilobites with such variation, large sizes and numbers and orthocerids too are much more uncommon after the rise of the goniatites. The massive tabulate coral reefs also disappear after the Devonian. Fascinating period and I hope to share some of its wonders with you. Equally, a lot of this is rather new to me, so I would be very grateful for any assistance, corrections or further information on my specimens. Thank you. The Early Devonian epoch is split into three stages, so let's start with the first of those, the Lochkovian, that began about 419 mya and finished roughly 411 mya. I have been sent a nice selection of brachiopods from the Kalkberg Formation, Helderberg Group by the Mighty @Misha, mostly. But the kind gentleperson also sent me this fascinating little bryozoan hash : It is dominated by fenestellids, which is usually the case in the Devonian, but other orders sill occur. These ones, I think, are Fenestella, but there are so many species in the formation that I wont take a guess as to species : Not sure what this one is ;
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With the 3 day weekend, I was finally able to get out for a fossil hunt! I was located mostly around Utica NY. Day 1: I started at the bottom of the ocean with a benthic Triarthus site near Little Falls. After some literally prickly encounters getting down to the river, I pulled the thorns out of myself and had a beautiful little spot! Naturally the in-tact shale was on the opposite bank, so I had a nice cool wade on a hot summers day and thoroughly soaked my boots. The voyage was well worthwhile I’ve never worked with shale this clean before. One piece was 3x3 feet, and with the slightest tap, you could flip through the “pages” like an enormous stone book. to start us off here are some photos of the site and some finds. Help with ID on the algae/sponges accompanying the Triarthus trilo-bits is much appreciated! Any tips on prepping these Triarthus too? The shale is thin and they seem to be mostly upside down.
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Hello fellow fossil fanatics, I recently found some great crinoid fossils, and I was wondering if any of you had recommendations regarding how they would be best prepared. Both fossils are in two pieces, and I bought Krazy glue today to fuse the pieces together. Since I have never done this before, is there any particular technique which allows for the best bonding? Should I separate the pieces, apply the glue, then reattach? Or should I try to have the glue seep into the seam between the pieces without separating them? The rocks both seem to be very full of crinoid stems! Do you think I should try to expose more using an air scribe? I would prefer to use an air eraser but my Paasche is so weak, it does nothing to any of the rocks I have used in the past. When prepping, should I try to go around the fossil imprints on the surface? What do you guys think?
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Hello. This is my first post to this forum, so sorry if I get something wrong. I found this rock, among others, in Cooperstown, NY in an exposed hillside. I believe it to be a part of the Moscow Formation. I am completely unsure of what this is. I found many other fossils of things like brachiopods, but this is unlike any of them. There are three of these "things" in total, two next to each other and one at the bottom, not completely there. They're each 1.5 centimeters in length. If someone could ID these for me, I would greatly appreciate it.
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I recently went to Penn Dixie for the first time and was not disappointed. Our tour guide first showed us the youngest rocks, then the pyrite. Here I found a tiny juvenile Tornoceras, Bactrites, and out guide showed us that individual septum can be found (see this post). I also found a fragment of a non-pyritized tiny Eldredgeops thorax. I found what HynerpetonHunter says is worm coprolites, and a few tiny brachiopods. Then, we went to the place where phosphate can be found. After that, we stayed a little at the place where fossils from the oldest layer were deposited in the soil, and I found a Naticonema gastropod, among the rarest fossils at the site! There were lots of brachiopods, crinoids, and rugose corals here. We then found some more corals, brachiopods, and trilobites at the most recent Dig with the Experts piles that were turned up for collecting. We walked towards the stream and on the other side found many bryozoans and coral (this time Favosites). I dropped my bucket of fossils but was able to find most of its contents again. We went to a place nicknamed "Crinoid Heaven", because of the sheer amount of crinoid columnals that can be found there. after that, we went to the original Dig with the Experts that was unearthed in 1993 (there wasn't much). After this, we went to where some trilobites are, but not as much as the recent Dig with the Experts site, so we went back. By this time our tour was over and we simply filled bucket after bucket of fossils. I found some Bellacartwrightia, Greenops, too many corals, and many, many Eldredgeops. I agree with Clary and Wandersee's (2011) rating of Penn Dixie as the top fossil park in the U.S. Below are some pictures of some of my favorite finds. First, some Eldredgeops. I prepped the top right cephalon with some dental tools. These can be found abundantly, but here are some of my best. ======================================= Some Bellacartwrightia. These are uncommon Asteropygines that are sometimes confused with Greenops. To prove that this cephalon belongs to Bellacartwrightia, look at its cephalon posterior border furrow - it continues down the genal spine, while it ends at the base of Greenops's. Directly above it is a juvenile's pygidium. Some more Bellacartwrightia pygidiums - on the same rock but on different sides. =================================================== A Greenops cephalon - the cephalon posterior border furrow ends at the base of the genal spine and does not deflect backwards. An enrolled Greenops in the matrix. Since Asteropygines have such this cuticles, I am going to wait to prep this one. Note: the scale bar is equivalent to 2 mm, not 1. ============================================= Now for the Gastropod! This is Naticonema, dorsal and ventral. ============================================ Mucrospirifer. ======================================= Placoderm bone? I am not that good with bones and any help would be appreciated on this one. I know more of these have been turning up lately, or at least being recognized. Penn Dixie was certainly worth the long drive and I very highly recommend it!
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Earlier in the beginning of the year, I was asked by one of my club members to lead our Syracuse club on a field trip to DSR. The member who asked is a longtime member of the Syracuse club as well as one in Pennsylvania, which is were he resides. The plan was I would lead the Syracuse members and he would bring the Pennsylvania members on the same day. We decided on May 7th. I realize that I am a bit late posting this report, so please forgive me. Been busy. It turned out to be a great day weather wise. I brought my youngest son Devin, even though his plan was to look for snakes. We met the local members at our clubhouse at 8 am and arrived first to the quarry about 9:30. The PA. Group showed up a bit later. Forum member @Al Tahan showed up with his cousin and her daughter. In all there was around 20 fossilhunters. From here I will let the pictures do the talking.
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Hi everyone! I just got back from a trip to Penn Dixie Fossil Park near Buffalo, New York, and found some pyritized cephalopod fossils. Penn Dixie has rocks form the Givetian of the Devonian from the Hamilton Group. A young ammonoid is easily identified as Tornoceras uniangulare, but the other orthoconic fossils are harder to ID. I am pretty sure the small but more complete one is a Bactrites, because the siphuncle appears to be almost ventral, the distance between the septa, and the slightly slanted suture (after looking at Ludwigia's). The preserved shell is very smooth and couldn't be from a Spyroceras that are also found at Penn Dixie. Similar fossils to mine are pictured on their website, unidentified. If any more pictures are needed, I will try to take them. I wanted some expert advice before concluding it is a Bactrites. Can anyone help?
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I found this on a recent trip to the Port Jervis area of New York. The rock that it's embedded in is quite a bit different in color and texture than others in the local area that contained crinoids and brachiopods. I've included photos of 2 other sides of the same rock (photos 2 and 3). Help with identification would be greatly appreciated.
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I was hiking with my dad, a little Southwest of Syracuse, and came across a rock. On one side it almost looks like rings from a tree. On another side it has crinoids and some sort of shells. I was wondering if this might be fossilized wood? Thanks!
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This is a specimen I found in Ulster County, New York. A non-expert told me it is simply a chunk of concrete and that the flat, brown anomaly in the center is a leaf that got trapped inside it before it hardened. It is specifically the "leaf" which is of interest to me as I find it to somewhat resemble an invertebrate fossil.
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A huge Eurypterus remipes, found at Lang’s Quarry. This one is over 8 inches long! Also gifted to me by Dean!-
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Partial claw belonging to the pterygotid, Actutiramus. Found at Lang’s quarry and gifted to me by Dean!- 1 comment
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A Eurypterus lacustris prosoma from the closed Ridgemont quarry. From the Silurian aged Williamsville Formation in Ontario.-
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The fossil bryozoa colony I found on April 6th turned out to be a pocket of individual colonies. I've posted about this find in the past month. Happy Collecting. Atactotoechus fruticosus Fossil Bryozoa Colony Moscow Formation, Middle Devonian (380 million years) New York State It's very difficult to find complete/near complete colonies of Devonian bryozoans that also look great in a display case. These Atactotoechus fruticosus bryozoan colonies are from a newly (4/2022) discovered pocket of around two dozen individual colonies. This Bryozoa colony was found on April 6th. 2022 in the Devonian shales of New York. Many hours of reassembling were needed to put these colonies back together after they were excavated from the shale outcrop.
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Can someone please identify this fossil for me? I found it in Broome County, New York and I believe it to date from the Paleozoic era as I found it in association with bivalve fossils which means the fossil in question is likely a marine species and New York was underwater during the Paleozoic.
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2022 Fossil Collecting Season Our season started out great with a warm 63 degree day here in New York State. We often don't dig on our first collecting trip of the season Its more of a surface collecting trip just to scout out the area and see what winter has exposed for us. I had my geology hammer of course but no mini sledge, chisels, or pry bars. One of my favorite things to find in early spring are colonies of Bryozoa (Atactotoechus frutiosus). You have to collect every little piece of the colony and reassemble them back it home. This will take anywhere from an hour to many hours over days and in this case over a week so far. You never know how they will look until you start matching up the pieces and hope that you got them all. I picked up around 255 pieces from a colony that I found on this day and thought I got most if not all of the colony. It was a slow start reassembling it then I found my rhythm. It started to become clear after a week of working on it that I was missing a bunch of pieces. Yesterday 4/24/2022 we went back to the site, dug in the shale were we found the colony, and found a bunch of the missing pieces. This time I did have the proper tools to complete the job We also found a large and well preserved Orthospirifer marcyi with attached Pleurodictyum coral and other Devonian brachs, trilobites, corals, a graptolite (modern Sea Fan for comparison in the pic), and of course Bryozoa colonies. The pics of the Bryozoa colony are - pieces from the first day, after a week of puzzling them back together, and yesterdays recovery of the rest of the colony (white tray). Happy Collecting
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Tiny Strophomenid Brachiopod Preserved in Pyrite from DSR
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Rhyssochonetes aurora Strophomenid Brachiopod Preserved in Pyrite (just over 1/4 inch in width) Middle Devonian Moscow Formation Windom Shale Hamilton Group Deep Springs Road Quarry Earlville, N.Y.- 2 comments
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On Tuesday this week, myself and some of my family spontaneously decided to get out and drive to some interesting places in New York state to enjoy the day. We visited some beautiful locations like these two waterfalls: On our journey, we ended up around Gilboa, which is the location where one of the earliest known fossil forests was discovered with amazing plant and animal life, some of these fossils are exhibited outside near the town hall. This, being one of the many locations I had wanted to visit for years, was an opportunity I could not pass up, so while driving through the town we stopped by to take a look at these amazing pieces of history and get a few pictures: These are just some of the fossils displayed there, I have also really wanted to get to fossil hunt for some of the plant remains from this formation in Schohaire creek nearby, but unfortunately due to the very spontaneous nature of all of this I was not ready with the locations I had noted down where we could have done so and I did not get to collect anything from there on that day. We did, however, still have a little bit of time before it would get dark and I made the suggestion that we go collect some fossils at another, familiar location as it isn't often that I get to be around these places. So that is what we did, setting out for a quick hunt in the lower Devonian Kalkberg formation at a site only around 30 minutes away. Overall we probably got to hunt for around an hour, but it was a surprisingly productive time. Last time I visited here, I wasn't able to find that many of certain organisms I was interested in like the beautiful Leptaena sp. but this time, we found an abundance of these fossils, along with many other nice specimens. Here are some of my favorite finds from the trip: A few of those Leptaena sp. I wanted to get This one was my favorite, not the most complete but quite large and has very nice surface detail. A small but detailed spiriferid with some nice bryozoa: The largest spiriferid I've found here, needs some prep but a very nice fossil still: This one was a big surprise for me, I kept it because of the nice spiriferid on there but upon getting home I noticed a shiny dark patch below, turns out it was a Linguliform brachiopod, something I had never seen from the formation before. It's not complete, I wish we had noticed while we were there and potentially found the other side, but this is still a find I am very excited about. This also made me wonder something, most brachiopods preserve with a matte, sometimes slightly shiny texture to their shell, while all of the Linguliforms I have seen have a very glossy surface to them. Is this difference caused by differing shell composition? It is quite interesting and something that seems to occur throughout geological time, in many formations with varying preservation. @Tidgy's Dad maybe you know something about this? Some pretty nice orthids: This one was quite big, and appears pretty complete, I would like to get it prepped some day, I think it may turn out quite nice: Another strophomenid similar to Leptaena but with much shallower rippling along its surface, I was wondering if this may be another genus, looking in my field guide I see that Strophonella and Rystistrophia both also have concentric wrinkles, although I am not sure which if any of them this one may be: A coral? not really sure what this branching fossil is, but it seems quite interesting, not anything I've seen here before. A pair of nice solitary rugose corals: This one doesn't show up too well on camera but it's a pretty large platyceratid gastropod, I have a few from this location but this one has some very interesting wrinkles to the shell, quite different from all my other ones. This is another large fossil, I think it may be a gastropod also? it has a similar dark shell to most of the gastropods I've found here, plus it seems like it may be curving in a helical pattern out of the matrix slightly, but I may be wrong. And to finish, here are some nice hashplates I collected from the site: Thanks for looking!
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Temporary Revocable Permit required for fossil hunting in state forests?
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I have located a good prospective area to fossil hunt, and it is in a state forest in New York State. To ensure that fossil hunting is allowed, I checked the website: https://www.dec.ny.gov/lands/44115.html The second rule states: "Groups of more than 20 people and certain activities such as weddings, filmmaking, research, etc., are required to get a Temporary Revocable Permit (TRP) from the DEC land manager. Please allow a few days for a TRP to be reviewed and approved after submission." Clicking on the "certain activities" link and scrolling through, I found this under the "Non-Routine TRPs may be issued for the following activities" section: "collection of materials, including scientific specimens, historic artifacts, living materials, minerals, or wildlife on State Land ..." Does this mean I need to go through the whole application process of getting a Non-Routine TRP from the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation? If so, that requires liability insurance, which I know nothing about: 3. Non-Routine TRPs For Non-Routine TRP applications, the Regional Manager or designee shall process the minimum non-refundable application fee and/or an additional administrative fee if applicable, determine if the TRP application can be approved and so indicate with signature on the application. If the Regional Manager recommends approval, he or she will forward the signed application package, draft TRP, and location map to the respective Division or Bureau designee in Central Office for review. If the TRP application package and draft TRP are approved by Central Office, both shall be returned to the Regional Manager who will then issue a Non-Routine TRP to the permittee with a copy of all relevant documents; and shall forward a copy of the TRP and location map to the Regional Ranger Captain in charge of the area where the TRP will be effective; If the TRP application package and draft TRP are denied by Central Office, the appropriate Division or Bureau designee in Central Office will so indicate on the application, provide the reasons for denial, sign and return application to the Regional Manager, after which the Regional Manager will than notify the applicant by letter explaining the reasons for the denial. 4. Proof of liability insurance and performance security (if applicable) for Routine and Non-Routine TRPs must be received at least five (5) business days prior to the onset of the activity approved by the TRP. TRPs requiring such insurance or security shall not be effective until proof of such insurance or security has been received by the Department 5. Routine and Non-Routine TRP permittees shall be directed to notify the Regional Manager at least one (1) week prior to commencing an activity permitted under a TRP and upon completion of such activity, except for those activities scheduled to occur on a specific date. Has anyone gone through this long, arduous process to go fossil hunting on state land who is willing to assist me in this?- 14 replies
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