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  1. Hello, I recently found several concentrations of large animal bones above a small creek in central Oklahoma. There are at least four different clusterings of bones, all within about 50-100 yards of the creek length, and each spot contains what appears to be bones from multiple large mammals (cow size) ranging from leg bones to ribs to vertebrae to partial skulls and jaws. None of the bones appear to be particularly recent, and some are pretty degraded (skulls that are easy to break apart, cracked teeth). This location is also along the Chisholm Trail that ran N-S through Oklahoma in the mid-late 1800s. I haven't found any tools or weapons of any kind in the area, and haven't noticed any obvious markings on bones that might indicate butchering, hunting, etc. One skull recovered so far (not included in the pics below) has been confidently ID'd as an elk based on the presence of two lacrimal ducts in the front of the eye orbits. I was wondering if anyone is able to give an ID on any of the additional bones below with some level of confidence. I hope it is okay to include all of these pics in a single post (apologies if not and I can repost individually). Here is the most intact skull I have found, it is 24 cm across at its widest point: Here are lower jaw bones recovered so far. From what I have read online, it seems like the orientation of the mandibular notch is more like a cow than a bison, but the M3 teeth seem to be on the large side for a cow (upper 30s to a little over 40mm): Here are two closeups of the M3 tooth from the single jawbone in the picture above: A femur that is ca. 12.5-13cm wide at the condylar end: Last but not least, here are some pretty weathered upper teeth: Thanks again if anyone has the time and inclination to offer insight on any of these finds. Maybe they are just cow through and through, but I thought I would check just in case.
  2. Jesuslover340

    Nature Photography

    Salutations! I thought to share the pictures I have taken, and hope you enjoy them! Please feel free to post yours as well-I'd love to see others' !
  3. After attending a conference in Norman, Oklahoma, I slipped down to the southern part of the state taking a few days to explore a bit of America I have never experienced before. This trip report focuses on the Devonian of the Arbuckle Hills, more specifically, the Haragan Formation. My research ahead of my trip provided me with a few marginal sites to play in. Little did I know, luck would be in my favor that day and provide me access to a couple great sites. I was collecting along a road, a site offered to me by a forum member, and not finding anything substantial. A truck came up over the knoll and stopped next to me. The occupant rolled his window down and asked "what are you doing" in a slightly unfriendly voice. An explanation of who I was and what I was doing appeased him. After a long and friendly conversation on many topics, he suddenly surprised me by asking would I like to fossil hunt on "his" property? He went on to tell me his parents, who really own the property, used to allow fossil hunters on the land for a fee. But due to their age and a few unscrupulous fossil hunters they ceased granting access. I asked him " is this the "White Mound" location and he verified that it was! What luck! He unlocked the first gate and the only thing he asked of me was to lock it as I left. He then said I would have to go through a second gate to get to the fossil site and explained I would likely be greeted by his goats at the gate. You can see he wasn't kidding. I was proud of myself for slipping my vehicle through the gate without a single goat escaping. As I arrived at the site, it became apparent, looking back down the path used to reach the site, that the goats were going to be my friends while I searched for fossils. Look at that train of goats as far as the eye can see. My guesstimate was about 300 head, all friendly. Fossils were weathered out, easy pickings! It was hard to keep track of what specimens I had found already so I didn't overharvest. Here are some of my finds: As mentioned already, a forum member referred me to this roadside collecting spot. It was explained to be by a gate with 2 eagle statues on it. This was Jimmy Houston's property. For avid fisherman on this forum, the name is famous as he is the star in the TV series Jimmy Houston Outdoors. For years, as I religiously watched him teach America how to fish, I took to the water applying his techniques to my fishing grounds, the Mississippi River. Maybe his educational techniques were too good, for the thrill of discovery diminished as I became a better fisherman. This caused me to loose some of my passion for the sport and looked elsewhere to satisfy my need of discovery. That's when I took to the sport of fossil collecting. Anyways, after gaining the knowledge that Jimmy lived there, I reached out to him and told my story. Then ended with an explanation that to find a fossil on his property would be as big a thrill to me as catching a 10 # bass. His response was quick and decisive. I was granted my wish. So after just an hour at White Mound, I had to leave my caprine friends behind and make a new friendship across the road. To reach Jimmy's house required going through 2 fancy gates (Oklahomans love their gates!!) and a herd of elk. Meeting Jimmy was wonderful. The better part of 4 hours was spent on his deck overlooking a lake frequently seen in his TV shows. Conversations had never related to fishing or fossils at all!! We just had a chance to get to know each other in a personal way. Eventually, he took me around his property on a 4 wheeler showing me where he felt there could be fossils. He tried hard to make my trip a success, but after hunting at White Mound, I was intrigued with a small dig site they use to get gravel for the road. It looked very similar and I soon had a few Houston fossils to take home! Here is a photo of the two of us. Currently, I am working on a shadowbox to include this picture and the fossils I found. In closing, PLEASE do me a big favor and correct any IDs or ad identification to fossils that lack it. Visiting new sites like this can be overwhelming when the identification process begins.
  4. Oklahoma 3 So far on my excursions around Oklahoma I have been greeted by goats and elk. The start of day 3 had me face to face with something I hadn’t anticipated! And it wasn’t another Oklahoma gate. No, it was a dazzle (what a herd of Zebras are termed) from the genus Equus. As I exited my vehicle, this particular Zebra was snorting. Thank goodness when Zebras snort, it is a sign of contentment. Zebras also stretch their necks out and put their ears forward when inquisitive. So this guy obviously wanted to greet me in a friendly way! So, a question for everyone reading this post. Are zebras white with black stripes or black with white stripes? This topic was discussed during a class on Zoo Veterinary Medicine years ago. The answer is at the end of this post. The owner of the quarry was on vacation, so it was just my striped friends and I enjoying the beautiful morning. Here is a photo of the site. My sledge had a good workout but unfortunately, little was exposed. This was all of my finds after 2 hours of collecting and most were already exposed. A suggestion given to me indicates this was the Ordovician, Bromide Formation. Since I do not know the formation for sure, identification has not been given to the fossils. #5 is very odd. I am not sure if it is a fossil or a mineral. Opinions welcomed! An opinion as to whether 6. is a bryozoan or a crinoid holdfast would be welcomed! 11. Initially, I assumed that this was a bryozoan or coral. But after cleaning it up and looking closer, I am wondering if this is a Floating Crinoid Bulb??? It was a specimen I hoped to find. The afternoon was to be spent exploring the Ordovician's Viola Formation. On the way, I photographed a typical scene of the area and of coarse, some more wildlife. The rains this past week with the resulting mud continued to make hunting difficult. But results from the Viola Formation pleased me. The brachiopods need a bit more prepping though. 1. Star shaped plates from the crinoid Colpodecrinus and a plate from a Rhombiferan cystoid 2. 3. 4. 5. This reminds me of Prasapora of the Decorah Shale but did not find Prasapora mentioned in the Viola Formation 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. Calyptaulax strasburgensis cephalon and Bumastoides billingsi pygidium. Hope everyone has enjoyed my trip reports. There may be one more after identifying my finds. a. So now to answer what color is a Zebra. Black! Black is color of a zebra. Beneath all that fur, zebras have black skin. Even under the white stripes!
  5. Posts of my trip to Oklahoma this week had some unidentified fossils shown. Hope was that someone would mention the identity of the specimens. Since no one did, today I am attaching photos of unknowns from the Viola Formation, Ordovician found south of Sulphur, OK. Maybe @crinus is knowledgeable! Could they be something like Evactinopora?
  6. Now this will really sadden me if it's fake. It's a Permian Period Captorhinus reptile from Lawson, Oklahoma. Please give me some good news.
  7. HorusLuprical

    Clam Fossil Identification

    Found this at Skiatook lake in Oklahoma for a day trip. I’ve had the darnedest time figuring out what time period it could be from or what type of clam. I think it looks a lot like a modern day giant ocean clam, and comparing it to all the clam and shell type fossils I can find in encyclopedias and online none look quite like this. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
  8. minnbuckeye

    Possible Crinoid Lobolith?

    Ahead of my trip to the Arbuckle Hills area of Oklahoma, I had tried to find sites that may produce a Crinoid Lobolith for me. My finds in the field did not support the likelihood of success. However, back home, I discovered I had thrown this round object into my baggie full of fossils. Initially geode or bryozoa or coral seemed likely. But after looking at it in combination with some other site finds made me HOPE for a Lobolith from a Scyphocrinites. I will let you be the judge of my identification for I am completely novice to such a fossil. If any other views are warranted, just let me know. I forgot the ruler! The specimen is 3.5cm by 3.5cm by 2.5cm. There is strong mineralization as seen in this photo To the top of the picture, it appears as if a crinoid stem could have exited here. The "bottom" of the specimen is missing Close up photo shows some crinoidal pieces This is a drawing of what I hope I found At the collection site, I did find what appears to be a crinoid holdfast. So the two fit the photo above!!! Details verifying a crinoid holdfast are missing. But this specimen has the same mineral coating as the crinoid columnar pictured below. @Ironhead42 posted these photos of a crinoid lobolith found in the general area of my find. I feel they look similar. Thanks for any info/ identification!
  9. After posting my trip report last week, these two partial ammonites pictured are without identification yet. Can anyone give me a suggestion as to their identity? They were beach finds on the Oklahoma side of the lake.
  10. I am new to micros but I have had at least a cursory look at bulk samples from a variety of sites and ages, mostly Texas and Pennsylvanian. The material from this one Pennsylvanian site in Oklahoma seems so far out of the typical range for quantity of fossils I am wondering what others think. Most of what I have looked at will show me a fossil for every 50 to 100 rocks and I consider that normal. This site has matrix that, when cleaned and screened to remove the finest shale particles (60 mesh) has hardly anything but fossils! The biggest problem with that is deciding what to keep and what to discard, however, if the trade-off is diversity over quantity I might prefer to see less fossils. I found mostly broken pieces of bryozoans but quite a few crinoid parts and not mostly stem sections like I usually see. There are some brachiopods and a few corals but the paucity of mollusks seems odd. In the first batch I took home there were no bivalves, no cephalopods and only one gastropod! Odder still I did find a trilobite genial spine and the tip of a conulariid, things that are usually far less common. There were also a few conodonts or maybe scolecodonts and some ostrocods. I went for another gallon baggie-full and finally got a few more gastropods, very few bivalves and one orthoconic nautiloid. Besides the large quantity of fossils I am curious about what conditions might contribute to that lack of diversity. I can not be certain about the formation but it appears to be in the Deese group. Geologists I have asked say the area is a geological mess so anyone who could volunteer to clear up the confusion is welcome to have a look! It is west of I-35 and south of Ardmore. Below are photos of the matrix after I screened out the finest shale particles. Scale is millimeters.
  11. I recieved permission to fossil hunt the quarry in the western "suburb" of Bromide Oklahoma and am currently trying to finish identifying my fossil finds. One would think the Ordovician Bromide Formation would exist here but when looking at maps of Oklahoma geology, it lists the area as Middle Pennsylvanian. Can anyone clarify what rock I was looking at? Thanks!!! Mike
  12. Futurefossil

    Hoof print?

    I was doing some landscape work today and found these hoof like impressions in a few pieces of flagstone. I believe it to be sandstone. And I know for sure it’s from Oklahoma, U.S.A. Any thoughts?
  13. Can't remember if I have ever made a trip report before, but here goes... I have been conducting a lot of online research and found a new (to me at least) site that I wanted to explore. It appeared to be part of the Bois d'Arc formation in Pontotoc county, Oklahoma. I did the research, figured out the property owner, and got permission to access the site. I had to put off the trip multiple times due to the amount of rain we were getting. I figured the creek might be flooded. Finally almost a week went by without rain and I set a new date. Due to unforeseen circumstances, I got a much later start than I intended and so only had a couple hours to explore the site. On my way down to the creek site, I found a few miscellaneous fossils. Mostly crinoid debris, but also a few other odds and ends yet to be photographed and identified. The most interesting thing I discovered were three "concretions". I am calling them this for lack of a better term if not correct. They were immediately between two stratigraphical layers. I can tell there are crinoids stems going into the middle of them, but never seen anything like these before. Now I am trying to research how to clean/prep these so I can get a better view of the contents. I wasn't able to get pictures of them i situ because I misjudged the depth of the creek where I found them and was in "much" deeper water than I intended. Holy smokes was the water cold when it filled my boots! I already have permission to go back and explore again when we have had less precipitation and the creek is not so deep. Pictures below.
  14. minnbuckeye

    Haragan Formation Brachiopod Unknowns

    Having just returned from a trip to Oklahoma, I tried identifying my finds from the Lower Devonian's Haragan Formation. Success was had except these five fossils. Any help is graciously accepted! 1. 2. 3. 4. 5.
  15. CALA.2002

    Possible fossil

    I found this tooth in a creek bed a couple years ago, I didnt think it was anything special then but the more I look at it the more I question whether its just a really old tooth or a fossil. Any ideas?
  16. Tidgy's Dad

    Adam's Early / Lower Devonian

    The Devonian period is known as "The Age of Fish", but could also be known as "The Age of Brachiopods." In the Early / Lower Devonian, brachiopods reached the height of their diversity towards its end in the Emsian. We see the ancestral groups occurring, lingulids, craniids, orthids, protorthids, pentamerids, rhynchonellids and strophomenids, as well as the later successful groups we have seen before such as atrypids, athyrids and orthotetids, plus the rise of spiriferids, spiriferinids and productids and the beginning of the terebratulids. By the end of the Devonian , several of these groups are extinct or severely reduced in importance and brachiopods never quite recover. Also, the Devonian is the last time we see trilobites with such variation, large sizes and numbers and orthocerids too are much more uncommon after the rise of the goniatites. The massive tabulate coral reefs also disappear after the Devonian. Fascinating period and I hope to share some of its wonders with you. Equally, a lot of this is rather new to me, so I would be very grateful for any assistance, corrections or further information on my specimens. Thank you. The Early Devonian epoch is split into three stages, so let's start with the first of those, the Lochkovian, that began about 419 mya and finished roughly 411 mya. I have been sent a nice selection of brachiopods from the Kalkberg Formation, Helderberg Group by the Mighty @Misha, mostly. But the kind gentleperson also sent me this fascinating little bryozoan hash : It is dominated by fenestellids, which is usually the case in the Devonian, but other orders sill occur. These ones, I think, are Fenestella, but there are so many species in the formation that I wont take a guess as to species : Not sure what this one is ;
  17. Outlawsavage

    Help what could this be

    Found this by ft. Gibson Lake in Wagoner, Oklahoma. Trying to figure out what it is exactly or an idea? Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!
  18. Oldest Fossilized Skin Discovered, Clocks in at 300 Million Years Old Isaac Schultz, GIZMODO, January 11, 2024 The (open access ?) paper is: Paleozoic cave system preserves oldest-known evidence of amniote skin by Ethan D. Mooney, Tea Maho, R. Paul Philp, Joseph J. Bevitt, and Robert R. Reisz in Current Biology. DOI:https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cub.2023.12.008 Yours, Paul H.
  19. Hello. I'm interested in a Permian Labidosaurus foot/leg. The fossil is advertised as being from Lawton, Oklahoma, Aroyo Formation. I am aware that this piece is a composite and that there has been some repaired bones. The size is not indicated. I'm wondering if these are genuine fossils. Any information is appreciated, thank you.
  20. Good Afrernoon! Wondering if anyone knows if this is a fossil? I apologize if I am not posting in the correct area! First timer
  21. Laura111797

    Anyone know or have any ideas?

    Just wondered if anyone could tell me what they think of these pieces.
  22. Amber Jacobs

    Identification

    Not certain what this is. May be our vivid imagination, but to us this seems to look like a petrified lizard/croc head of some sort, with one eye intact. What interests me the most is the snake like skin. Feels like leather. The rock is very heavy.
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