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  1. Hello These are the adventures of myself and my dog Millie as we hunt for fossils and history along the Peace River. Our mode of travel is our 12’ Indian River Canoe, Balance. Im a 4th generation Polk county native, and Millie comes from a long line of Colorado ranch dogs. We do everything together. Including work, as I am a farrier for my day job, and the farm owners are more excited to see Millie than me! The goal of this journal is to document the learning along with the adventures. To go below our sieves, and learn why the river is presenting as it is. Other members have already posted pictures and info on every fossil I’m likely to find, but the river can still teach me/us why the hole I’m digging is delivering specific materials. Understanding what happened before what happened, happened. That’s what I want to know! Millie and I have been gifted this river and the ability to run it at a moments notice. That’s not the case for everyone. Even with access I still only get out for a morning or so a week. So this journal will also provide an avenue for those who can’t just jump in the boat with us. Jump in through this forum and help out along the way when you can/want. The more we learn the better the treasure!! Jp & Mille LET THE ADVENTURE BEGIN! Season opener - Oct 2023 water depth day of - 8’ and falling. Like most things I’m impatient about, starting Fossil hunting this year was rushed. Millie and I ran head on into a river that’s a solid 3’ too high for me to handle any real working conditions. There’s places to work. We just haven’t found many at these depths! Yet!! After work arrived and we got started towards the river. Late arrival and definitely some dark water running ahead but at this water height you just gotta keep the boat in the middle. Got in late but just in time for a welcome back from the Peace! We woke up ready! Well, I did. Camp and my “Field Office” ready. Now to get wet! Because of the water depth I tied leashes to all the heavy tools and tied some extra pool noodle to them. That way I could drop them and just pull up the leader. Brought the “Velvet Touch” probe. No stopping us now! “What” I was after wasn’t an option this trip. I had only two available spots in mind that would be under 4’ deep. Both those spots are in a very recent deposit that I’ve been getting lots of Pleistocene and some Pliocene mammal material from. I ended up finding the time frame expected, and possibly an extinct sand shark nursery area. The river had sifted one spot completely away during the last flood so I was left with only one place to put in effort! At 4’ it was at my cap for height. I’m 5’6’’ and I could only dig 2 feet down before I ran out of shovel. So I had to figure something out. First I tried to fill the sieve on the River bottom and lift it up. FAIL! never got it to stay put long enough to do anything productive before I’d loose it and it would pop up down stream pulling on the leash. Next I tried to lift the gravel to the sifter on the surface. There was so much water the shovel load was gone before I broke the surface! FAIL! At a max depth of 2 feet down I wasn’t going to be learning much about the geography or layers I needed to work through. So I shifted gears and decided to focus on just the top 2’ as effectively as I could. The third try ended up succeeding. I would loosen the riverbed into a loose filled hole that had collapsed on itself and then use my scoop on a pole thing to transfer the loose material up to the surface. Not the best method but I’m grateful to have been able to stand there all day. I’d work forward 3’ and over 1’ then back again. All at 2’ or less deep or I’d go under. I suppose if I feel like moving a bunch of river bed again we could come back here and go deeper! One of my questions about this area is what is it old enough to find within it? Another trip! Here’s the gratuitous highlights shot! Not a bad day! The alligator tooth got a yell but the sand tigers and mammal teeth got me really excited. Millie and I were exhausted and COLD! I learned a few things this weekend to put in the journal. Before that. Let’s eat! Steak for me and steak for Millie. Yumm. Lessons: 1. I need appropriate clothes. Like wet suit stuff. Can’t be under water like that all day again. I got chilly and had to warm up several times. 85deg out too! What I wear is fine for knee deep wading but definitely time to upgrade the wardrobe. (I did try my new dive boots and that was the only part of me that wasn’t cold) 2. Regular shovel handles are way too short. Amend as needed to your stature. I need a 12’ handle to dig a hole in this water. So I’m out! 3. Jack, (Shellseeker) is insane!! This was my first time hunting this deep and it’s right in his sweet spot. You’re an animal! He tried to assist my tool tuning but until you run out of shovel that’s a new feeling to adjust to. 4. At two feet deep this area is where I will come for younger land aged fauna and I can expect the standard peace river sharks teeth assemblage with a higher than usual volume of sand sharks teeth. This was a great day hunting and I learned a lot. Maybe not about what my intended question was or the areas I’ve been thinking of but a ton about gear and technique! KEEP THE FAITH AND TRY TO DO GOOD!! Jp & Millie Here are the finds from this trip and some info used to figure out the unknowns. sand shark and some Hemi Serra Peace River mix fun and unique things - The mammal molar ended up being a Giant Tapir. By shape and size 3rd or 4th premolar. No root. Should have given it away. Mixed bag bottom to top of left- Gator tooth gator tooth Crappy Barbra’s incisor Canine- size 22mm broken suggest coyote or smaller domestic dog. 25mm would be the target. Tiny molar - it’s broken but by the face and measurements it’s most likely a rodent. Camel type tooth frag. Upper right - various tiger shark species to identify with Florida fossil hunters PDF middle - two deer horn buttons. One I already had but these were found 5 feet apart. Same deer?!? Bottom right- Eocene snail and crab shell fragments. Those are 37.5 Mya.?? Snail identification was general to the Ocala formation results of similar snail species.
  2. In the U.S., Otodus angustidens teeth seem fairly common (primarily from South Carolina). From scouring the web, it looks like O. angustidens can also be found in at least in a few other countries, including Australia, Germany, Kazakhstan, and Mexico. However, I very rarely see these pop up, whether it's for sale or otherwise. In contrast, I see other members/stages of the chronospecies--obliquus, auriculatus, sokolovi, chubutensis, megalodon--show up not infrequently from multiple locations around the world. Is this because there are fewer accessible Oligocene-aged marine deposits globally, more restrictions on fossil collection and/or export where these deposits do occur outside the U.S., or for other reasons? Do you know of any other countries besides those I've listed where angustidens are found? If you have any non-U.S. angustidens teeth in your collection, please also do share photos! This is the only non-U.S. one I own, from Baja California, Mexico.
  3. debivort

    Unidentified jaw?

    From the album: Chandler Bridge Formation Microfossils

    Perhaps a piece of a pharyngeal plate?

    © CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

  4. debivort

    Unidentified

    From the album: Chandler Bridge Formation Microfossils

    A grinding plate or gastric mill?

    © CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

  5. Neanderthal Shaman

    Pulalius vulgaris

    Far from perfect, but a considerable improvement over the last one.
  6. oilshale

    Trachinus minutus (Jonet, 1958)

    From the album: Vertebrates

    Trachinus minutus (Jonet, 1958) Early Oligocene Rupelian Jamna Dolna Poland
  7. Fin Lover

    angustidens

    References: Gale, B., Gale, P., & Gale, A. (2020). A Beachcomber's Guide to Fossils. University of Georgia Press. Miller, A., Gibson, M., & Boessenecker, R. (2021). A megatoothed shark (Carcharocles angustidens) nursery in the Oligocene Charleston Embayment, South Carolina, USA. Palaeontologia Electronica, 24(2), 1-19.
  8. From the album: Fossils

    1.5 inch lamnid type shark vertebra in matrix from the New Bern quarry. Not sure if this is from the Oligocene River Bend Formation or the Eocene Castle Hayne Formation. If you think you recognize which formation this is from, leave a comment.
  9. Fin Lover

    O. angustidens 2.14.24

    From the album: Fin Lover's South Carolina Finds

    The missing cusp is a shame!
  10. Neanderthal Shaman

    Falling for the same trap twice

    Finished up the 2nd Pulalius of my career. Overall I am pleased with it, but I have had to endure the great disappointment of having the claws cave in on me. On the left, just part of the claw broke off; hardly noticeable. On the right the whole propodus crumbled, a great tragedy considering how beautiful it was...you could see all the little nodules on it. Perhaps I have to reevaluate my desire to expose the whole front side of the claw...the fact they are so small and hollow tells me I may end up with this result over and over again if I keep being greedy.
  11. Opabinia Blues

    White River Teeth ID

    Hello, everyone, Lately this summer I’ve been doing a bit of casual fossil collecting (with explicit permission!) on some land that a very close family friend owns in Weld County, Colorado that has a lot of exposure of the White River Formation, and I’ve collected a sizable amount of material including some pretty awesome finds. Being an amateur, I need some help identifying some of the fossils I’ve collected. Since the forum has a photo upload limit per post, I’ll be making a few threads for different finds, I hope that is ok. The following are two teeth that I found very near to (but not attached to) a piece of jaw bone. My current hypothesis is that these two teeth are associated with the same jaw. From Weld County, CO. Though hard to tell from the pictures, tooth #1 does have a distinctive ridge at the apex of the crown, though this could just be wear. Tooth #2 appears only to be a fragment, and a small fragment at that, and so may or may not be identifiable unless it turns out they’re from the same animal and the first tooth is identified. #1: #2: Thanks!
  12. Neanderthal Shaman

    ID for this Lincoln Creek Formation Crab?

    It looks different from Pulalius Vulgaris, has a more flattened carapace, and one claw is noticeably larger.
  13. Hi all, I recently came across the enigmatic taxon from South Carolina (and apparently New Jersey) - Conosaurus Bowmani. It was named in 1851 from the teeth depicted here, found in the Oligocene either Ashley or Chandler Bridge formations It was misidentified first as a mosasaur (hence saurus suffix) and had been suggested to be renamed conosaurops, but that doesn’t seem to have caught on. Only a few specimens have ever been found that I am aware of, primarily teeth and a couple jaw segments. Two of which were in a previous post by ClemsonSkulls which I was reading this morning, which likely came out of the eocene in a SC limestone quarry. I also see mentions of it from the Cretaceous of NJ. I am curious if anyone has specimens of or knows anything more about this taxon. I have located 4 references for it, including some great descriptions of its tooth shape, but as far as I can tell there have been no elements past the jaw that have ever been ascribed to this ferocious predator, and there is no clue what it is or looked like. Hoping someone knows something more! Thanks all!
  14. GallinaPinta

    Puerto Rico fossils

    I want to share this amazing experience. This was in San Sebastián, Puerto Rico. The Gozalandia waterfall is one of the most beautiful spots in the island, and because of this, it is a tourist attraction. I always fossil hunted near but I never went to this specific waterfall. I live close by so I went to take a simple dip but I absolutely could not hold back the urge to fossil hunt as soon as I got here. It is absolutely beautiful! After going down the wooden stairs, I immediately started checking out the rock beds. There's even a cave under the waterfall! After just 30 minutes of checking the stones, I found a beautifully preserved echinolampas. This formation is known to preserve fossils from the oligocene and paleogene period according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fossiliferous_stratigraphic_units_in_the_Caribbean#Puerto_Rico and San Sebastián has been my favorite spot to fossil hunt. I always find many beautifully preserved specimens.
  15. Fin Lover

    angustidens

    References: Cicimurri, D. J., & Knight, J. L. (2009). Late Oligocene sharks and rays from the Chandler Bridge Formation, Dorchester County, South Carolina, USA. Acta Palaeontologica Polonica, 54(4), 627-647. Gale, B., Gale, P., & Gale, A. (2020). A Beachcomber's Guide to Fossils. University of Georgia Press. Miller, A., Gibson, M., & Boessenecker, R. (2021). A megatoothed shark (Carcharocles angustidens) nursery in the Oligocene Charleston Embayment, South Carolina, USA. Palaeontologia Electronica, 24(2), 1-19.
  16. Sonickmonx

    1.5" Pristine Angusidens

    From the album: Sonickmonx's South Carolina Finds

    Beautiful angustidens, I will never complain about a perfect tooth.
  17. Sonickmonx

    First Angi

    From the album: Sonickmonx's South Carolina Finds

    This was my first angi, and maybe my second shark tooth ever. Still holds a very special place in my heart.
  18. Sonickmonx

    Parotodus sp.

    From the album: Sonickmonx's South Carolina Finds

    Some species of Parotodus. There is some speculation it is an unnamed species.
  19. Sonickmonx

    Parotodus sp.

    From the album: Sonickmonx's South Carolina Finds

    Some species of Parotodus. There is some speculation it is an unnamed species.
  20. Sonickmonx

    Lamniform Shark Vertebra

    From the album: Sonickmonx's South Carolina Finds

    I love finding Lamniform vertebra and this is my largest and nicest.
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