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  1. Michael1

    Peace river fossil IDS

    Found these two fossils while hunting the peace river wondering if anyone could ID them? If anyone needs additional photos please ask.
  2. Shellseeker

    Mostly Bones

    I was out hunting yesterday on the Peace River. I returned to a spot I had hunted last Thursday, Feb 28th, It rained over the weekend. Many /most locations were too deep to dig. I LIKE deep water because it is aerobic exercise for my lower back but I prefer not to be holding my breadth as I did. I did not find a large volume of fossils, many were bones, especially Dugong ribs which I tossed back. Small Shark teeth, Turtle Osteoderms, an Alligator Osteoderms, Deer tine, Broken Equus tooth, One question is that Bovid tooth... It is really nice... I would certainly like it to be Bison.. I like this Medial Phalanx... I do not think it is Horse, Might be Tapir... It is definitely small I found a Carpal that is smaller than I am used to finding for Camelids. I may indeed check the Tapir carpals. Same thing with this Ear Bone, too small to be Equus but similar to Equus . Both Horse and Tapir are Perissodactyla. I have never identified a Tapir ear bone. Then there were more unusual bones... unusual in the sense that I have no clue.. This bone has articular facets...like a carpal or tarpal, but the following 2 Photos of the same bone does not look like any carpal I have seen.. Time for me to do a lot of looking All assistance and suggestions gratefully appreciated... Jack
  3. Michael1

    Florida porpoise teeth ID

    These are some dophin like teeth ive found and just wondering if anyone of them was something different like a bear or something completely different? All of these teeth except one were found in florida. Most of them in the peace river one of them in gainesville and the other in georgia. The second to last photo was the one from gainesville and the last photo is the one from georgia.
  4. A great day in the sunshine. Few finds but all interesting... Abertella dengleri echinoid, @Sacha Transformed to Silica, I am hopeful of finding a whole one.. Pachyarmatherium leiseyi... these are rare and Tiny, found my 1st one in 2014. Pristis lathami Rostral tooth... A Tortoise footpad, more likely than Glyptodon tail osteoderm A piece of pretty Bark Ivory A Steinkern... of a Gastropod that I do not know the name... The silicified core of a different gastropod.... Really a fun day... finding many favorites... AND An unknown Caudal Vertebra to identify. This should be identifiable.. How many of the Peace River fauna have tail vertebrae this wide. I believe it not to be Marine Mammal, .. I am hopeful another TFF member Identifies this before I track it down in a more difficult way...
  5. Shellseeker

    Carpals

    Was out hunting yesterday, previous post https://www.thefossilforum.com/topic/139901-interesting-finds-peace-river-02282024/ I did not have time last night to go thru everything , and I found 2 Carpals, one known and other needs identification... The known is a camelid (Palaeolama or Hemiauchenia) Carpal , specifically a Scaphoid.. I know because I have found this carpal previously. In the very next sieve , another carpal, but this one I did not recognize. To some extant, it resembles an Equus Magnum, but definitely is not.... It is very high quality, much better than the Scaphoid, but I have checked with camelid Magnum and it seems very different... So with that, here is a Carpal from the Peace River for Identification. This is usually a sweet spot for @Harry Pristis
  6. MuckyBottles

    Always a crier..

    Peace river is kind of high 🤣..next best thing is to hit the tribs.. it breaks my heart when you think you found a real nice hemi, but.. turns into a broken heart..a day out is still better than home.
  7. Shellseeker

    Raptor Claw

    Peace River find. I think it is a Raptor claw. Would appreciate any other possibilities. Some questions: Can we tell left or right foot ? Which digit (Obviously not hooked)? What Raptor? and finally.. Is it modern? @Auspex
  8. Michael1

    Florida mammal ID

    Found this tooth on my last trip in a creek super small find but still curious on what it is. Found it near the peace river. My thoughts are that its mammal maybe tapir or deer.
  9. Balance

    Peace River tooth?

    Working on a trip report from the past trip and I have a couple mysteries… Any leads or suggestions welcome. It’s probably my turn for “it’s a rock “. 😂 Thanks, Jp Looked like a cusp or crown of some kind of tooth. Has an outer, very thin surface layer with hairline cracks in it. Hourglass shaped defined “top”. daytime natural light Toadstool mud rock or fused bones? Already have a reputable vote for mud rock but I’m not ready to accept the truth. 😊 Daytime natural light
  10. Shellseeker

    Peace River, 2/11/24

    Had a great day hunting Friday and decided to hunt the Peace River before the Super bowl yesterday with my friend Steve. I love grabbing a shovel and sieve and just walk into the River. Perfect depth, about 2 inches above my waist. I had another good day as you check my finds below. Steve had a great day! In his 1st sieve, 3 shovel of gravel he found one of those pointy rocks we hear about, followed by a copper button, and then a Meg. He found a Giant Tortoise hoof core and a Tail Buckler. I did not get photos of the rest, but at the end he found a small jaw with 2 teeth I did not recognize. Here are my prizes.. A few flecks of Druzy scattered here and there... A miniture Armadillo Osteoderm.. This is the smallest I have ever seen and look at the patina... I love this one... Followed by a real rarity for me.... an Armadillo front tooth... There is a lot of variety. Here is some of it. I hope that @Harry Pristis can provide an ID on this small premolar.. The size would indicate a small animal. To me, there are always surprises in hunting the Peace.
  11. 2 different mouthplates location: Peace river, Florida, USA Era:Mioceen My question to the field Are the plates from the same fishes? Greetings from the Netherlands Vincent
  12. Hello, All 🙂 Found this sitting on the riverbed while crossing a shallow section a month ago or so. Same spot I found a bovid cervical vert trip Before. Tossed it in the boat as a modern cow thoracic to identify “which one”. Saved it for a day when the temps cold and the water is up. That’s today, only problem is I can’t find a vertebra with a fork in it to save my life. Cow, horse, camel , oxen… no forked thoracic. Can bovids of different breeds have different vertebrae characteristics? Is this not a thoracic vert? Where too next?? its 7.5” long and 3” wide with the broken piece added back into the measurement. That’s 187mm ish long… Peace River , Florida modern thru Miocene Thanks for any insight or suggestions. Appreciate the feedback Jp
  13. I’ve been round and around with this one. Even messaged UF’s invertebrate paleontologist but no word, yet. Probably should have thought about colleges on breaks… Any suggestions?? Found: Peace River , Florida , US mixed with other positively identified Miocene echinoids, shell hashes and botryoidal covered shells and limestone composite rocks. Drusy coverings on most everything in this group. Including this fossil. Size: 35mm narrowest 45-50mm widest. Depending on if you stop at the fine rings or the outer flat perimeter. Could this be a jellyfish? Can others see the symmetry and outer rings? Thanks and fingers crossed! Jp Here are photos. Fossil in question- fossil side with close up in upper panels. Flip/bottom side in lower. It lightens when dry as shown in upper left. Sprayed with denatured alcohol to show the color when wet in the upper right. Close up details of the four quadrants of the oval. Drusy frost.
  14. Shellseeker

    EQUUS Identifications

    I was out hunting yesterday. One of my frequent finds in the Peace River is horse teeth , usually Equus .sp. I found one yesterday. Typical Equus upper molar. EquusExample#1 I am very interested in horse fossil teeth but have focused on pre-Equus. To tell the truth I just do not know a lot or can tell differences between Equus variations like Equus Simplicidens or Equus Complicatus, etc but I am about to learn!! My education should focus on Florida because that is what I tend to find, but I am interested in but I am interested in any publications that can effectively differentiate Equus .sp. I will start by searching TFF and checking out Harry's gallary. A week ago a hunting friend gave me a box of horse teeth he had found all of which he believed to be Equus. Actually he wants the teeth back . I am just doing the identification & analysis. Lots of teeth!!!! My 1st separation was 1) large uppers 2) lowers, 3) not fully erupted 4) m3 lowers, 5) M3 uppers, and a few odd ones. While many teeth are worn or chipped, there are some fantastic teeth like this one below. EquusExample#2 Note what I refer to as the "squiggles". I generally have used these to differentiate pre-Equus horse species and I am wondering what variations I might see in equus.
  15. Balance

    Bone or rock?

    Hello and hope everyone is having a great day. Going through the “I’ll look that stuff up later” bin and wanted to follow up on this piece. Not expecting any ID. Would just like to know: if this is in fact bone or rock? If bone, which I’m thinking it is, why has this specimen mineralized so much more completely that the other bones I find in the river. The second photo has this specimen next to a typical tannin stained bone from the river. (The carpal, tarsal, (short) long bone or whatever it is, as the example of river bone is my mystery to solve for the week so don’t give that one away if you know it ) Jp
  16. Found this hastalis shark tooth in a florida creek was just wanting to share, but also wanting to ask whats the biggest lesser great white tooth people have found or personal found. Ive only been fossil hunting for two years but this is my personal best hastalis tooth its about 2.7 inches.
  17. Michael1

    Tooth Id?

    Found this tooth in the peace river on my last trip, wasn’t completely sure what it was. Im thinking it could be whale or predator. I know its in pretty bad shape but would be thankful if anyone knows what it is. thanks
  18. Michael1

    Peace river mammal ID

    Hey, wondering if anyone could ID this… tooth I think? Found it in a creek near the peace river my guess is that its some type of mammoth tooth but im not entirely sure. Last photo is the best results of the trip’s finds from the creek.
  19. Shellseeker

    Peace River Bryozoan

    I went hunting yesterday. Running out of days, so I take any opportunity. Walked in over private land with owners permission. Hunted 5 hours "walking the river upstream". I like hunting in deep cool water, it is aerobic exercise. 1st location has shallow water and some colorful teeth. We were there 90 minutes. Between different locations , I frequently move finds from my collection bag to a ziploc bag in my backpack. That was fortunate since I left my collection bag and all the rest of my finds in the bed of Steve's truck. In a post 2 weeks ago , @Harry Pristis suggested Bryozoan as a ID for one of my Peace River finds (different location)... https://www.thefossilforum.com/topic/137631-peace-river-hunting/#comment-1458374 Yesterday I found a similar looking fossil. I almost tossed it back, but I am glad I did not. It is mostly round about 60-65 mm in diameter with a lot of attached concretion. I hung onto it because of this feature. Is this a holdfast, or Bryozoan remains or what ? I read that Bryozoa attach themselves to to anything hard on the sea floor like seashells or coral... Looks silicified.. Is that druzy ? Thanks for any and all Bryozoan comments. Is this identifiable to genus ? I hear there are 6000 + possibilities but this one in miocene or later.. A couple of other items in the box above... A Sand dollar or at least a piece of one...
  20. PeaceRiverHistory

    Florida finger bone or claw

    Hello TFF, This is an older peace river find of mine that still stumps me, the closest guess of mine is some kind of claw based on the articulating surface and potentially a sloth “thumb” bone or something similar. I appreciate any advice or leads. Thank you!
  21. Shellseeker

    Peace River Hunting

    Trying to get out hunting more often just for the exercise and good feeling of being on the river in the sunshine. If you are not familiar with the Peace River, there are many/most locations shallow enough to hunt. I went out Tuesday to a number of locations that had proved productive in the past. This was a location that would have been over my head a month ago. We hope to find that heavy rains and currents have moved the gravel and sand around opening new opportunities. Today was mostly small shark teeth and unidentifiable bones.. I did not keep the bones. Note the colors of the shark teeth on the left. Darker colors typical of the Peace River with tannic acid. We hunted at this location for a couple of hours. It had a number of artifact "flakes" and I kept one. The rest of the lighter finds came from a 2nd location, mostly marine based... This Dolphin jaw segment is less worn and longer than the vast majority of similar jaw segments I have found in the Peace River.. Here is a sponge, once again higher quality , less worn and more complete than most others that I (very) occasionally find. These last two fossils do not show typical wear from water erosion. I will likely return to see if I can find more similar fossils.
  22. PeaceRiverHistory

    Peace river small mammal tooth

    Hello TFF, I found this tooth in the Peace River near Wauchula several weeks ago and I just can’t nail down an ID. My thoughts are raccoon or opossum. Thanks for any help!
  23. Shellseeker

    A rare find

    Out today with a good friend. It seemed to be his day 5 Horse Teeth, a Bison Astragalus, and 3 decent Megs...On the 1st sieve, I found an incisor and an hour later a small predator astragalus. The rest of my day was mostly small shark teeth until the very end. We went to a spot where we had super success for a couple of years and coming back first time this season.. It has 6 or 8 feet of large fossil producing gravel, but 4 feet of sand had rolled over that gravel and added about 4 inches of new gravel on top of the stand but that gravel contained few fossils beside those small teeth... Here is the incisor... I think it is Llama, but very small. Could it be wild pig? and the Predator astragalus... Harry identified a very similar one as Raccoon 2 years back, and finally the star of my day, This is a Miocene fossil (7-14 mya) and Rare !! Only my 5th in 15 years . A great reward for my efforts today... A high quality tooth, barely erupted...
  24. Shellseeker

    Peace River Hunting

    The Zolfo USGS river depth gauge was down enough to believe that some of the low water spots would not be too deep. It has been months since we have gone back to this particular spot on the Peace River. Last time, I picked up a very nice Meg, a quality dolphin Bulla, and some silicified seashells. We had some cool temperatures predawn Monday with my car thermometer showing 61 degrees Farenheit. I just had a 3mm jacket and wonder if it would be enough. It was enough. The sun came out and there was no breeze. Big plus is that the coolness kept the mosquitoes away for a while. There was a fairly strong current and the water tended to be deep, in the 4-5 foot range. I had found some pretty shark teeth in past trips... Here is one of them. This is one of those locations on the Peace River where I have never found a Sand Tiger... but it does have a lot of Hemis. I was glad to get out . I found a few things , but not very much. Steve found a 2 inch canine, a couple of tapir teeth, and a couple of nicer Megs than the one I found. So, a whale vert, section of a dolphin jaw, dolphin Bulla and petrosal both very worn, some partial silicified seashells. and small shark teeth. There are a number of decent upper Hemis, and then a couple of Galeocerdo mayumbensis (Steve found 5 decent ones.) That's an example of a relatively rare tooth that shows up in numbers occasionally. Note the whiteish roots on some of the small shark teeth.. Definitely interested where they are coming from... The Peace River usually stains these black. When I am not finding lots of things, I tend to keep more then I should... Here is an example. It is about 40 mm and I just felt I should have recognized... a turtle or gator bone.. I'm thinking turtle... A nice outing good exercise, and the feeling that the season on the Peace River is starting..
  25. Shellseeker

    A Twisted Bone

    Combined hunting trip and Fossil ID for a unique bone. I went to a Peace River location we have hunted extensively in past years. I always believe what I preach ... Dig deeper, if you are not finding fossils, move frequently and ,,,, dig deeper. I started the day with a Hubbell Meg (42 mm Slant).. the rest of the day was gravy. My friend found 3 horse teeth, 3 Megs, a small complete Ray mouth plate, a perfect 40 mm upper Hemi and many more small teeth than I did... We were digging 5-10 feet apart. My finds: A better look at what I think is a Hubbell Meg.. My definition is pretty simple 1) size 40-45 mm 2) outward bulge on the blade.. I like this Equus Tooth... It is short only 44 mm in Height, which means an older horse and is in great shape. So a Meg and an Equus tooth.. That is what I mean by MioPleistocene. So here is a twisted and flat bone... for the Fossil ID...
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