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Okay currently still on the water - but have 3 ids I’d like help with while I’m here - 1) first is a Carnivore mammal tooth - it’s got no cementum. 2) Pretty sure tapir? 3) Worlds smallest Meg? 1) Carnivore: 2) Tapir? 3) Meg? thanks in advance! @Harry Pristis @Shellseeker
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So went out on the peace today to a new spot. Which I will absolutely be returning to. This weekend actually, cause it won’t rain till Monday, so the water is just gonna keep dropping! Anyway, had some awesome finds today, even though my cursed Meg luck continues. So to start off with the coolest finds: We’ve got a m2? or m1 Equus horse tooth in incredible condition, there’s only slight damage to the very bottom of the root on one side: A piece of dolphin jaw sans teeth: A massive glyptodont scute: 2 Tilly bones! I was complaining about not finding any of these before, and found my first 2: My only complete Meg from today, a tiny baby: This absolutely massive 1.25” Tiger shark tooth: Large gator tooth: Gator/Croc osteoderm bits: 4 Ray dermal denticles, one of which is the biggest I’ve ever found: a Tortoise spur, I think? A dolphin periotic ear bone: A worn/broken Dolphin vert: A dugong vert process: And finally, turtle shell and Meg frags: And cause I wanted to showcase sizing, here’s a Nannippus P2 vs the Equus m2/m1, and then my old glyptodont scute vs the one I found today:
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Was on the River today, found lots of stuff - gonna post a trip report - but wanted IDs on these 3 things: a possible coprolite, a possible tortoise spur, and a possible ear bone! @Harry Pristis @Shellseeker@GeschWhat 1) The coprolite: 2) Tortoise spur? 3) Ear bone?
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So literally just got back out to my spot from yesterday in the hopes of continuing with a good shovel to start off the day. First shovel of the day results in this: Dugong? Tapir? Any help appreciated! @Shellseeker @Harry Pristis
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Finally back from the creek and had some more ID’s I’d like to ask about! Mostly teeth, and one bone. 1+2) Thresher shark teeth? Never seen this type of shark tooth before. 3) Thinking this is Carcharhinus sp. and is a just posterior tooth, but I’m not sure. It is serrated. 4) Dolphin tooth - 99% sure on this one but wanted to confirm 5) Rhino tooth fragment? Note the vertical HS bands. 6) Toe/finger bone? 1+2) Thresher Shark? 3) Not sure - Carcharhinus sp? Has serrations though the pic doesn’t show em too well 4) Dolphin tooth? 5) Rhino tooth? @Shellseeker there’s vertical HSBs 6) Toe bone?
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So I’m currently out in one of the creeks that lead into the peace. Found this tooth - so I don’t have my scale cube currently, but I wanted to ask if I could get an id on it. It’s small - but 1000000% fossilized. Was thinking Dire Wolf since the shape is a perfect match, but I’m not sure if the size says otherwise.
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Hello! I am wondering how much this alligator jaw is worth, It is 6 inches and its from the peace river formation ~5 million years old. I thas 5 teeth and 13 sockets (including the ones with teeth) Thank you!
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In the summertime, I try to hunt at least once a week, and my preference is twice a week. I have to be adaptable, moving to low water spots in the river, or into creeks, or on to dry land. All have different issues, but in all cases, I depend on the generosity of my friends. Yesterday I went with a friend who happens to have permission to cross private land. I provide the 4x4, most/all of the small shark teeth I find, etc. No kayak against the current. It is still not simple, we had to prospect in season for locations that would only be waist to chest deep in July. The mosquitoes, gnats, and horse flies are all out in force, pleased to get a shot at a free meal. I usually have a wetsuit 3mm jacket on until I can not stand the heat, and then I move into deeper water. The rewards are always worth it. I am not there only for the fossils found. A bunch of little shark teeth (Lemons, Tigers, and Hemis). There is a Hemi symphyseal there. Surprisingly, no bulls/dusky. Across the top, a small glyptodont edge osteoderm, a tillybone, an earbone, a piece of turtle shell. The Meg is nice, but I am really curious about the fossil above it. I thought Scaldicetus, but my friend , who has a lot of expertise, thought is was Mammoth Root. The 1st two photos look like whale to me, but the last 2 photos had me looking for Schreger lines and then , in case , you missed it.... a piece of copper.... All in all, an interesting day with a good friend on a river I love.... Jack
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So I was originally planning on going kayaking to find my own spot today on the peace but the kayaking plans fell through, so I had to sadly resort to a boat ramp. Public area, heavily hunted. Still, came away with some decent stuff! To start off, the biggest and most complete Meg I’ve ever pulled out of the Peace (No, I still haven’t found one that’s got even 75% of it left ) This is probably the coolest pattern on a shark tooth I’ve seen on this Tiger Shark tooth: Next is the nicest mammoth molar fragment I’ve found, with a bunch of other frags from today: This absolutely gorgeous turtle shell: Some horse teeth frags: A really nice bivalve: A very small armadillo scute: Some petrified wood: And finally, a half of a shark vert, a sawfish rostrum tooth, a deer antler piece, a fish vert, a few croc teeth, a gator tooth, and some cool bone pieces:
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Assorted Florida Miocene fossils for trade
Meganeura posted a topic in Member-to-Member Fossil Trades
Got tons of shark teeth (Tigers, Lemon, Bull, Snaggletooth), ray mouth plates, some ray barbs, some horse teeth fragment, some sea turtle shell pieces, and dugong bone rib pieces that I'm more than happy to trade for... well anything that people would want to trade for! Feel free to PM me, I've got plenty of the above to trade! -
Wanted to see if anyone can ID these chunks of bone I’ve found in the Peace River. They’ve all got somewhat interesting shapes so I figured IDs might be possible! 1) 2) 3) Any help is, as always, appreciated!
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I picked this up during my hunt at Florida's Peace River. My first thought was a eroded rock. It's mostly hollowed with maybe 1mm thick outer wall. Its hard and has a smooth porous texture in the outside. I noticed the light shines through the outer wall. I tried to take pictures with the light coming through it. I have consulted some Peace river identification sites and have found nothing similar. I'm stumped. Any ideas? If it turns out to be a rock, that just means its a really cool rock! Thank you!
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Some IDs needed for fossils from my hunt yesterday, so any help would be appreciated! 1) Not sure if this is a sea robin skull or something else. 2) I think this is a very worn tooth from something? 3) Preeeeeeeetty sure this is just a rock with some interesting layers - but I’ve found them on occasion and figured I may as well ask: 4) Very thick piece of what I originally thought was sea turtle shell, but due to how thick it is, I’m not sure anymore: Top: Side: Bottom: As always, any help is appreciated!
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I went to the Peace River today. It seemed like a great way to spend Memorial day. My spouse had the Hotdogs, baked beans and coleslaw waiting for me to get home. My friend @jcbshark was asking for an ID. For the 1st 3 hours of digging , the finds were ONLY pretty colored small shark teeth, mostly broken , mostly hemis, but a few were perfect. Then I moved locations to be closer to my hunting partner and at first the only thing that changed was the small shark teeth were black. In the last hour a couple of bones made my day... Big smile BIG smile... 1st from a tortoise, a rather unique bone. I found a "double" 10 years back, You could read about it here... http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/111416-scutes-unknown/ The 2nd is a bone I did not recognize and request an ID. @Harry Pristis may be able to help. Some additional views, The reason I am excited is that I found this Worthpoint fossil and wondered What are the possibilities https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/fossil-miocene-rhinoceros-medial-1923733683
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I was out yesterday and i found an earbone. My initial impressions was that this was a Dolphin periotic, but I soon changed my mind. Over the years in hunting the Peace river, the 1st Earbone that I found was Equus, and I have found 30 at least since the first. Most hunters I discuss horse ear bones, say they either throw them back or leave them laying in a dusty drawer as unidentified bones. Usually they have a lot of wear , but here is a pristine one, with many more features than normal including some skull material. It is 45 mm Length and 30 mm width. Yesterday, I found this earbone in the Peace river. It is considerably smaller than horse. More than a year ago, when hunting a Miocene location, my hunting partner found this fantastic find. It also has some skull material, and I believed , due to the limited Miocene fauna found, plus similarity to Equus earbones, that it was from a pre_equus horse. Steve sold it to me for far less than I would have paid. In July, I found another !!! small earbone. Richard Hulbert, director of the Vertebrate Laboratory at University of Florida Museum of Natural History identified the 1st photo ear bone in this thread (along with many other earbones I found) as Equus .sp. This is now my 3rd small earbone out of the Peace River that seem to me, as similar to Equus, and likely form pre_equus horses. I am looking for anyone who has found a similar mammal ear bone to provide photos of that find and any identification notes. It just seems to me that I can not be the ONLY Florida Fossil hunter finding these small ear bones. Obviously , all comments and suggestions greatly appreciated. @fossillarry @Harry Pristis @PrehistoricFlorida
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I was out again with a good friend. He has a huge garden and gifts me vegetables from time to time. Yesterday he gave a one of his earliest perfectly ripe Cantaloupes. We had some for breakfast... sweet and delicious. Once again, I saw @PODIGGER at the launch point. to discuss finds, but I left early. It was a day of few finds. Some broken Megs, a few Hemis, but I like tigers, and I did get a contortus. Some turtle, which I do not normally keep, in the center a chunk of a Capybara m3, an earbone which was my find of the day (I will separate to another fossil ID thread). A medial phalanx. Not a lot of finds but more than enough to keep me happy. Before I go to the fossil finds, what is this ? It feels like crumply rock,, but what is the source of the maze like pattern? Up close photo of the Capybara molar.. I believe that this is one end of a turtle humerus: Let's get an ID on this medial phalanx: It is L 35 x H 16 x W 15 mm. Almost seems to have the concave/convex end of a gator Vert, but I have never seen any vert that looks like this. Once again thinking sea turtle.. Thanks for the help.
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I am getting out to hunt about twice a week. I have interesting places to look. It turned out that @PODIGGER and I chose the same launch point, and returned at the exact same time. It was hectic stripping the kayaks , storing the gear for the drive home in time for dinner. We did have a few minutes to exchange pleasantries and discuss finds. Here are most of mine sorted for their photo. I am more interested in the fossils you don't recognize than those you do. This for example is a druzy cave inside a silicified banged up oyster. I had not seen a fragment of a turtle Nuchal bone in months, but 1 whole and 2 fragments showed up in my sieve yesterday. I will use the post that @Harry Pristis put in this thread to attempt pontificating of mine. http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/106885-turtle-nuchal-bone/ @fossilnut asked me to keep and eye open for turtle material. I did find a quality tooth from a very old horse. Horse grinds down its teeth over a lifetime and many die of starvation. That's a Harlan's caniniform on the right. It was mostly orange coming into the sunlight. I have been very lucky recently finding sloth teeth once a month. It was my "find" of the day, before... The nurse shark in slightly less than 9 mm. At that size it will easily fall through the mesh on a quarter inch screen. Once I discovered that there small treasures dropping out of my screen, I switched tactics for about 2 hours (see the collection of tiny teeth in the photo above). I stopped shaking the screen to clear mud/debris, I took much longer searching the screen for tiny teeth. There is a tradeoff here. I really like finding small treasures, mainly because it is unusual for me to find them (before they slip thru the holes). However, it takes a Lot longer to search for them , so that I do not process as many screen in a hunting day. No way to avoid it. and thus finding fewer of the WOW finds (Megs and Sloth Teeth) Let me ask a member who has some focus on tiny shark teeth on how he handles it. @digit All in all, a great day out hunting on the River.
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Another day hunting with a friend. Having a friend along manages to give me a sense of security during the Florida alligator mating season. It makes no sense for an alligator to mistake me for a potential mate, but I am wearing a black wetsuit. In any case , we have found a productive hunting site that seems to improve as time goes by. I has lots of opportunity to pick items out of my screen. There are some interesting fossils that I am not doing close_up photos on: Horse earbone in upper left, Gator Osteoderm, center top, I reacted when that blue triangle fell into my screen, I thought it was a gift from some ancient humans, but no such luck... this time. There is a little of white druzy covering a silica shell fragment, some nice long sea urchin spines, a bunch of turtle footpads, a deer ungual and antler frag, a 42 mm Meg and lots and lots of shark teeth, including a couple of tiny threshers, one nurse shark tooth, and some of the smallest Snaggletooth upper teeth I have found. Here are some of the finds I think I recognize, but always willing to be corrected. 1) A Glyptodon Osteoderm from the edge of the carapace. (3 broken sides) 2) Another Glyptodon Osteoderm from the edge of the carapace. This one only has 2 broken sides... unusual 3) A Dugong Vertebra process fragment in fantastic shape.... This is 3 plus mya.. look at the lack of wear... small lines on the bone. 4) A Camel Unciform (ankle bone)... that is slightly broken off to the right I set that thread up as a "fossil ID", but I recognize more of what I found. 5) An enamel "cap", no roots... an in_process tooth which is pretty rare in/of itself from the lower jaw of a juvenile tapir and (did I say enamel caps are rare?) 6) An enamel "cap", no roots but in this case much rarer because the animal is much rarer than tapir. Metaxytherium floridanum, the Florida dugong lived 14-7 myas ago. I have found less than 10 of these over 15 years of hunting. Now down to the Fossil ID part of this thread , one I am not sure of... and hope that @Harry Pristis has some insights 7) It seems to be a tooth L 22, Height 8, W 5 mm. I wonder which is the root end and which is the chewing end. and the last, I have never seen before and while it could be a fossil, I am unsure if it is mammal or fish. 8) 31 x 13 mm. All comments and suggestions appreciated. I am wondering of there is a seashell or bottle cap inside. It is an ongoing joy to have such a variety of fossils to find and 15 years of hunting still be unsure of exactly what I am finding. Jack
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I found a Silicified Seashell last month and it turned out to be a relative rare silicified version of a pretty common Oyster from 3-4 myas. It is not like I forget interesting locations to hunt , so we returned there yesterday. Lots and Lots of little shark teeth (100s with about 25% unbroken). These all become gifts to someone. My hunting friends, my family, school kids, Paleo museums, etc. Separating those out left this smaller group of interesting fossils.... On the lower right, that was the Only Meg I found and next to it a nice Mayumbensis from the Miocene. A number of chips and broken teeth (I was thinking Rhino on a couple of these fragments) and also Croc trying to pretend to be gator. There were some Armadillo osteoderms and a fossil shaped like an ungual, a couple of bones that would attach to an astragulas, likely deer based on size and then a couple of premolars that @Harry Pristis has tried to ID for me previously. Just enough to keep me interested and digging in the same spot. My hunting friend was finding much the same (lots of little teeth, couple of Megs both in better shape than mine, and he picked up a Llama molar with complete roots. There was quite a bit of agatized material, most of it fragments, or pretty common broken items. Then an unusual silicified seashell, once again an oyster.. It is a 45 x 32 mm oval and the silica is on the "outside", Other photos... Certainly wanted to share these interesting finds, but also wanted to solicit any opinions of how the process happens. Certainly not exactly what I would have imagined.. There is a very slim remaining slice of the original shell in the center of this fossil, with much thicker layer upon layer of silica material laid down on the outside of both sides of the thin shell. It makes me wonder if this process is the same process that created the previous silica seashell, that ended up looking like this....
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I was out hunting the Peace River yesterday, spent about 3 hours each at 2 locations, I thought my 1st large (2 inch) Kentriodontae tooth was the prize, but after looking close, that shark vert is a pretty nice find also... This Vert is 8.5 x 20 mm diameter on the back ?? edge and 8.5 x 23 mm diameter on the front edge. Is this normal and does it tell us anything... like where the vert is positioned in the shark? Scyliorhinoid .. Catshark ??? Have I been finding their teeth in the Peace River...? What are those marks on the very inner core of the Vert ? Is the hole in the center natural or due to erosion, age, damage ? Ken, @digit... you know about small Florida sharks .. What can you tell me about this Vert.....
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Out today. Regular hunting partner called yesterday and wanted to go back to a spot where we had found medium to large Tigers, Duskys, and Hemis. The river was up a little bit from Saturday rains, just the way I like it. That spot had been heavily dug since the last time we were there. It happens. We were finding 20% of what it used to produce and after 90 minutes reluctantly moved upstream. One of us would find productive gravel and call the other to the new spot. Turns out I was the one to find productive gravel. Then something uncommon but not unusual occurred. I continued to find good fossils... megs and meg fragments, whale tooth, horse teeth a piece of bark ivory, a very nice Mako, large Hemis and Tigers, and then a piece of jaw with 3 teeth. He found few broken small shark teeth digging not 10 feet from me. I have been in that situation . These are the times that test a friendship. I kept on hoping that he would find something... anything really good. But that is not how fossil hunting works... or life either. Takes me back to my Mom's advice when I was 5... life is not fair, get over it. We will go again to a different spot on the Peace River later this week. No time tonight to sort all the finds or take photos for Fossil ID thread... Just the jaw piece, and a photo of the initial sort....
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Went hunting with a friend yesterday on the Peace River. Saturday is unusual for me because of increased river traffic on the weekends. Since I can hunt any weekday, I tend to avoid weekends. We were prospecting, looking for gravel. As always interesting finds: Not too many , but interesting .. One location had agatized shell: I guess this might be the equivalent of a RucksPit Calcite Clam, but this half bivalve is pretty complete and clearly an oyster. I am not positive on the creation process but think I ought to name it a silicafied Oyster. I would like to find more of this.... @Sacha @MikeR Then I picked up this interesting shark tooth. Any time , I have to roll a small shark tooth in my fingers a couple of times wondering what it is, that's the time I need to reach out for help . @Al Dente Moving locations , I came across an oddity... White shark roots coming out of white rock, under the sand and gravel of the Peace River... This will get multiple visits if it keeps producing teeth like these. A couple of deer tines, a broken Equus magnum, gator tooth, a dolphin jaw fragment, and a numbers of broken teeth, horse, bison, camel, and then this oddity. I am really not sure what it is besides a really beat up tooth.... At first, I thought Equus long upper tooth, but Equus would have the thin white lines , not the wide upper bands. then I bounced between Mastodon and Mammoth. The 3rd photo seems to show more agatized material, just slate instead of golden color. Size 40 mm long 15x20 mm. I finally settled on Mammoth fragment with the enamel crumbling and the cementum agatized. I am pleased by the interesting and unusual finds, a long day exercising in the sunshine with friends. and finding a couple of locations that I will return ...
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Mako or Meg fragments? Found in the peace river at brownville park. Ruler and cute bunny(happy Easter!) for size.
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Tooth that looks like a tiny tusk, or.... Peace River oddity, Florida
Bone Daddy posted a topic in Fossil ID
This one has me stumped. It looks like a tiny tusk, but I think it's a small cetacean tooth of some kind. It's banged up, but the tip is intact and it has a hollow-ish root that shows layering not unlike tree rings. It doesn't look like it's been in the water very long and must have weathered out of a sandy bank recently. Does anyone have any idea what this is? Is it indeed a tooth, or is it just something suggestive?
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Testing out my ID skills here. I found this small fossil phalange bone. I *think* it is a deer phalange (odocoileus virginianus). Is this correct? Found in the Peace River, Hardee County, Bone Valley formation.
