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  1. ober

    Permian crinoid

    Hello helpful fossiliers, Help please. These fossils came from outside Moab close to the Colorado River, but on a high shelf. The river is not visible from this location. Roadside Geology of Utah identifies this area as Permian, as did a BLM paleontologist. They are from about 10-15 miles SW from Moab. The rocks are largely a red base (clay?) with a gray-er surface. These three pictures are actually 3 different locations on the rock, but I think (wonder if) they are the same life form. The first is about 2 mm long. The ruler shows a mm scale. You can see the cross section end of the item on the fossil closest to the ruler. The second is a round disc from elsewhere on the surface and the third is a connected series of round discs. My sense is that the disc and connect discs are crinoid segments. Is the first picture also a crinoid, or am I way off on all this? I can post additional pictures if anyone asks. Thanks. Tom
  2. Fossils Unexpectedly Discovered in Jordan Change Paradigm of Plant Evolution Paleobotanists thought seed plants evolved after the Permian mass extinction, but fossils of early pine trees and other gymnosperms found by the Dead Sea alter timeline. Haaretz, Ruth Schuster, December 25, 2018 https://www.haaretz.com/science-and-health/.premium-fossils-unexpectedly-discovered-in-jordan-change-paradigm-of-plant-evolution-1.6783472 Middle East fossils push back origin of key plant groups millions of years By Elizabeth Pennisi, Science https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/12/middle-east-fossils-push-back-origin-key-plant-groups-millions-years Blomenkemper, P., Kerp, H., Hamad, A.A., DiMichele, W.A. and Bomfleur, B., 2018. A hidden cradle of plant evolution in Permian tropical lowlands. Science, 362(6421), pp.1414-1416. http://science.sciencemag.org/content/362/6421/1414 Yours, Paul H.
  3. DeepTimeIsotopes

    Gerster Fm. Productid Brachiopods

    This particular species had spines attached to the shell which is not all that common. There are four spines attached on the thumbnail brachiopod. The holes in the shells were where spines used to be attached. Found during this trip here:
  4. Misha

    Hungry boy

    Here is a hungry boy from the Permian that I drew.Not yet sure if I like the way I drew the sand clouds, and I think that using pen for the final product was definitely a mistake, but otherwise it is okay.
  5. Still_human

    Who's Permian feet made these?

    If anyone is familiar with Permian tracks, can anyone ID these? All I can tell is that they appear to be synapsid tracks, but not Dimetrodon. I'm assuming that means Edaphosaurus is out too, but that's all I can figure. the ONLY details still known are that they're Permian tracks from somewhere in Arizona. There's no more information available. There's 4 plates... 1-pic 1 2-pics 2,3,4 3-pics 5 4-pics 6,7
  6. oilshale

    "Walchia piniformis"

    From the album: Plants

    "Walchia piniformis" Early Permian Odernheim a. Glan Germany I'm not sure about that name. There are a lot of similar looking plants that can be found there.
  7. The most common fish in copper shale. References: Blainville, H.-M. D. (1818). Sur les Ichthyolites, les Poisons Fossiles; Article extrait du Nouveau Dictionnaire d’Histoire Naturelle, vol. 28, Abel Lange, p. 16. K. H. Wedepohl. Composition and origin of the Kupferschiefer bed. Geological Quarterly, Vol. 38. No. 4, 1994, p.623-638 . Günther Schaumberg (1977) Der Richelsdorfer Kupferschiefer und seine Fossilien, III. Der Aufschluss 28 (8/9): 297-352.
  8. oilshale

    Acrolepis sedgwickii

    From the album: Vertebrates

    Acrolepis sedgwickii Agassiz, 1833 Upper Permian Kupferschiefer Richelsdorf Germany length: 16" almost complete fish relative abundance 1% of all fossil fish at this location
  9. oilshale

    Paramblypterus sp.

    From the album: Vertebrates

    Paramblypterus sp. Early Permian Boskovice Czech Republic
  10. paleoflor

    Medullosa leuckartii

    The following classification scheme was adopted: Anderson, J.M., Anderson, H.M., and Cleal, C.J. (2007), Brief history of the gymnosperms: classification, biodiversity, phytogeography and ecology, Strelitzia 20, South African National Biodiversity Institute, Pretoria (LINK).
  11. From the album: Vertebrates

    Platysomus gibbosus (BLAINVILLE, 1818) Upper Permian Copper shale formation Mansfeld Sachsen-Anhalt Germany Length 24cm / 10"
  12. From the album: Vertebrates

    Platysomus gibbosus BLAINVILLE, 1818 Late Permian Copper Shale Formation Bad Sachsa Germany Length 11cm Relative abundance of Platysomus gibbosus in Bad Sachsa: 2% of all vertebrates
  13. oilshale

    Acanthodes bronni AGASSIZ, 1833

    From the album: Vertebrates

    Acanthodes bronni AGASSIZ, 1833 Early Permian Asselian Alsenz Rhineland-Palatinate Germany Length 20cm
  14. References: H. Meyer (1840). Phoca ambiguua, Munster. Beitrage zur Petrefacten-Kunde 3:1-11 R. R. Schoch (2013). The evolution of major temnospondyl clades: an inclusive phylogenetic analysis. Journal of Systematic Palaeontology.
  15. Taxonomy from Werneburg 2021. Diagnosis from Werneburg 2021, p. 36ff: "The combination of following characters differs from most other branchiosaurids: (1) Very short maxilla, without contact to short jugal (persisting gap between maxilla and cheek up to adult stage, shared with Schoenfelderpeton). 22 teeth of maxilla are only few more than of premaxilla (16). (2) Parietals elongated and very narrow, like the width of frontals (shared with Schoenfelderpeton, Melanerpeton pusillum, Leptorophus raischi). (3) Prefrontal and postfrontal in contact (shared with Branchiosaurus). (4) Small orbita (shared with Schoenfelderpeton). (5) Wide intraorbital region (IOw/Sl about 0.29-0.37, shared with Branchiosaurus commentryensis, Apateon caducus and A. flagrifer). (6) Tooth base is relatively wide in earliest stage (shared with eryopiformes). (7) Parasphenoid with elongated basal plate and narrow cultriform process in adult stage (shared with Branchiosaurus salamandroides, Schoenfelderpeton, Leptorophus raischi). (8) Choana very wide in adult stage (shared with adult Apateon caducus). (9) Dentary with pleurodont dentition. (10) Hyobranchial skeleton of kontheri-type (shared with Branchiosaurus commentryensis, Apateon kontheri and A. pedestris). (11) Early ossification of exoccipital starting with skull length of 7 mm. Exoccipital relatively high, with a wide shaft, especially wide anteromedial ends and sculpture of longitudinal ridges. (12) Small growing species (shared with both species of Branchiosaurus, Apateon pedestris, A. flagrifer, Melanerpeton pusillum, and M. arnhardti)." Line drawing from Werneburg 2021, p. 66: References: Boy, J. A. (1972) Die Branchiosaurier (Amphibia) des saarpfälzischen Rotliegenden (Perm, SW-Deutschland). – Hessisches Landesamt für Bodenforschung, 65: 1-137. Werneburg, R. (2021) Morphology, Ontogeny and Variation of the Branchiosaurid Apateon dracyiensis from the Rotliegend (Lower Permian) Cabarz Quarry in the Thuringian Forest basin, Germany. Semana 36, p. 51-86.
  16. oilshale

    Ullmannia frumentaria GOEPPERT, 1850

    From the album: Plants

    Ullmannia frumentaria GOEPPERT, 1850 Late Permian Copper Shale Formation Richelsdorf Hessia Germany
  17. Still_human

    Dimetrodon sail spine pieces

    From the album: Permian era fossils

    Very small fragments of dimetrodons sail spines. From the lower Permian Texas Red Beds, Archer city formation in Archer county
  18. Still_human

    Edaphosaurus with large predator bite

    From the album: Permian era fossils

    Yet unidentified Edaphosaurus pogonias bone from the Permian era Red Beds site in North Texas, with large unhealed tooth hole from what appears to be a large Dimetrodon's bite, from either the fatal attack, or post-death predation mark.
  19. Still_human

    Hybodus

    From the album: Sharks and fish

    Hybodus Houtienensis shark spine Permian to Cretaceous shark (impressive!!!!!) beautiful serration teeth down the back.
  20. From the album: Permian era fossils

    Reverse side of the unidentified Edaphosaurus pogonias bone with an apparent Dimetrodon tooth hole.
  21. From the album: Vertebrates

    Paramblypterus duvernoyi AGASSIZ, 1833 Early Permian Klauswald Rhineland-Palatinate Germany Length 12cm
  22. From the album: Vertebrates

    Rhabdolepis macropterus (BRONN, 1829) Early Permian Morsbacher Hof Rhineland-Palatinate Germany
  23. elcoincoin

    Branchiosaurus Petrolei

    From the album: Best of 2017 finds - a year in review

    Set of 2 Branchiosaurus Petrolei, a permian amphibian (size 2 cm) from Autun oil shale. - Autunian - collected in autumn 2017
  24. hauyn888

    Paramblypterus (7).jpg

    From the album: Paramblypterus 2

    different specimen from Paramblypterus from the famous locations in rhineland-pallatinate,germany, permian age, 280 -285 mio years
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