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Split specimen from Green River in WY. Fossil seen in between layers.
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This specimen is from the Green River formation in Wyoming. Found split in two, unfortunately. These images show a before and after prep job using a Vaniman mobile Problast sandblaster. The specimen is a Priscacara from the Eocene period.-
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Split specimen from Green River in WY. Fossil seen in between layers.
Vaniman posted a gallery image in Member Collections
From the album: Priscacara
This specimen is from the Green River formation in Wyoming. Found split in two, unfortunately. These images show a before and after prep job using a Vaniman mobile Problast sandblaster. The specimen is a Priscacara from the Eocene period.-
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Split specimen from Green River in WY. Fossil seen in between layers.
Vaniman posted a gallery image in Member Collections
From the album: Priscacara
This specimen is from the Green River formation in Wyoming. Found split in two, unfortunately. These images show a before and after prep job using a Vaniman mobile Problast sandblaster. The specimen is a Priscacara from the Eocene period.-
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Split specimen from Green River in WY. Fossil seen in between layers.
Vaniman posted a gallery image in Member Collections
From the album: Priscacara
This specimen is from the Green River formation in Wyoming. Found split in two, unfortunately. These images show a before and after prep job using a Vaniman mobile Problast sandblaster. The specimen is a Priscacara from the Eocene period.-
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Split specimen from Green River in WY. Fossil seen in between layers.
Vaniman posted a gallery image in Member Collections
From the album: Priscacara
This specimen is from the Green River formation in Wyoming. Found split in two, unfortunately. These images show a before and after prep job using a Vaniman mobile Problast sandblaster. The specimen is a Priscacara from the Eocene period.-
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Split specimen from Green River in WY. Fossil seen in between layers.
Vaniman posted a gallery image in Member Collections
From the album: Priscacara
This specimen is from the Green River formation in Wyoming. Found split in two, unfortunately. These images show a before and after prep job using a Vaniman mobile Problast sandblaster. The specimen is a Priscacara from the Eocene period.-
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Split specimen from Green River in WY. Fossil seen in between layers.
Vaniman posted a gallery image in Member Collections
From the album: Priscacara
This specimen is from the Green River formation in Wyoming. Found split in two, unfortunately. These images show a before and after prep job using a Vaniman mobile Problast sandblaster. The specimen is a Priscacara from the Eocene period.-
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Split specimen from Green River in WY. Fossil seen in between layers.
Vaniman posted a gallery image in Member Collections
From the album: Priscacara
This specimen is from the Green River formation in Wyoming. Found split in two, unfortunately. These images show a before and after prep job using a Vaniman mobile Problast sandblaster. The specimen is a Priscacara from the Eocene period.-
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Split specimen from Green River in WY. Fossil seen in between layers.
Vaniman posted a gallery image in Member Collections
From the album: Priscacara
This specimen is from the Green River formation in Wyoming. Found split in two, unfortunately. These images show a before and after prep job using a Vaniman mobile Problast sandblaster. The specimen is a Priscacara from the Eocene period.-
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Split specimen from Green River in WY. Fossil seen in between layers.
Vaniman posted a gallery image in Member Collections
From the album: Priscacara
This specimen is from the Green River formation in Wyoming. Found split in two, unfortunately. These images show a before and after prep job using a Vaniman mobile Problast sandblaster. The specimen is a Priscacara from the Eocene period.-
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Split specimen from Green River in WY. Fossil seen in between layers.
Vaniman posted a gallery image in Member Collections
From the album: Priscacara
This specimen is from the Green River formation in Wyoming. Found split in two, unfortunately. These images show a before and after prep job using a Vaniman mobile Problast sandblaster. The specimen is a Priscacara from the Eocene period.-
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@Ptychodus04 is preparing a fossil fish in exchange for some on the side web development (web page). Here's where he is at with the preparation and I must say that I'm very pleased with the results. This is going to turn out to be one amazing fish. Here's a before and after. The before was a fish that was broken in half and in need of some restoration and repair but is mostly there. Kris is really working his magic on this one.
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I have difficulties to find out what this small fish (1.8" or 4,5cm) from the Eocene GRF is. A baby Priscacara or Cockerellites? Or is it a Hypsiprisca hypsacantha? Or one of these so far (?) undescribed Priscacara species? The tail fin seems to be very, very slightly forked (almost round) and the Praeoperculum bears some spines. So I would guess Hypsiprisca hypsacantha, but I am not sure. Who can help? Thanks Thomas
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As I mentioned in a previous post, when I was at the Tucson Fossil Show I picked up some unprepared slabs of Green River Fish from the 18” layer. That prompted some of you to say you expected me to post photos as I did the prep work. I initially rejected that idea because I’m pretty bad at prepping and I didn’t want to post pictures showing how bad I am. But then I remembered some advice I once got from a manager I reported to early in my career. After I made an engineering decision that didn’t turn out so well, he told me, “It looks like your fate in life is to serve as the bad example everyone else learns from.” That cheery sentiment was underscored by this framed inspirational poster he had hanging on his office wall: So with that in mind, I decided to go ahead and post photos of my prep work, not to show you how to do it, but rather to give you the bad example everyone else can learn from. I picked up a total of four slabs, but the one I will show you in this and subsequent posts is one that was claimed to be a Priscacara species. Of course you don’t know for sure until you do the prep, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they had done some sort of X-ray before they put the slabs out for sale to make sure they weren’t selling a rare specimen for a dirt-cheap price. In any event I’ve been happy with the specimen, even if the quality of the prep could be better (this is my first time prepping a specimen from the 18" layer). I actually started the initial prep while still in my hotel room in Tucson, but I don't have a photo of this fish from there. Here's a photo of one of the other slabs to give you an idea of what they looked like. The seller drew a bunch of lines in pencil to show what he thought was the outline of the fish, so that's mostly what you are seeing here. It was a lot easier to prep once I got it home. I only have manual scribes so it is a very slow process. Here’s a photo of my setup. I’m convinced I would not be able to do this without the microscope, which I keep at the lowest setting, 6X. I have 3 probe tips, all purchased from Paleotools when I was at the show. I also bought two pin vises to go along with the one I already had. Of the probe tips, one is oval, one is flat like a flat-head screwdriver, and one is a sharp point. With my technique I have found the oval probe to be the most useful, followed by the flat tip. I only use the pointy one to do delicate cleanup in tight spots. To keep the dust from getting all over the place I mostly use the yellow brush to clean it off and save the blower for critical spots. Even then I don't use it at anywhere near full blast power. Even so, you can see it's already covered in dust. Here’s how it looks after about 5 hours of prep (I said it was a very slow process!). The tail looks like it has been blown up, probably due to decomposition before being covered with silt. The ribs are looking pretty good except for at least one that’s far out of position and pointing in a completely different direction than the rest. Looks like it has 9 dorsal spine rays, which is consistent with Priscacara serrata. The areas around the pelvic fin and where the caudal rays branch from the body were prepped by the seller, probably with air abrasion, I assume to help sell the specimen. Here it is after about another 3 hours, mostly to expose the anal rays and further clean up the dorsal spines. It has 3 anal spine rays, further confirming it identification. You can see my favorite probe tip on the left. Next up is to start working on the head, which will be more difficult because the matrix covering it is a lot thicker. This fish is definitely from the 18” layer, as the smell of petroleum is pretty strong. I’m finding I can only work for about half an hour at a time, two or three times a day. If I work longer, I get nauseous and get a headache that doesn’t go away for a day. So this is making the prep go even slower. I did a search on the TFF forum for other threads on prepping Priscacara from the 18” layer and found a good one from back in 2017, in which @Ptychodus04 recommended dampening the matrix to soften it. I have been doing this and it not only softens the matrix it also keeps down the dust and fumes. And it adds contrast when I take photos. Good idea! Here’s where I am at now, after about another 5 hours of work. The head is starting to emerge, but I have to say I can’t identify any of its features when I compare them to the photos from Lance Grande’s book, The Lost World of Fossil Lake. Not sure what is going on here, I’m open to suggestions. Meanwhile I will keep plugging away and post occasional updates as I have them. What are these bones?
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I have been blessed this summer to have some amazing finds up in Green River. A couple of them come in the form of strange pathologies on a common fish. The Priscacara (or Cockerellites as it is now known) Is quite a common fish to find in multiple layers of the Green River Formation. The Cockerellites is closely related to modern perch, and is a highly prized fish due to it's unique appearance! I know there was a paper recently written (I believe in 2010) by John Whitlock, but I cannot seem to find it on any open access sites. Part of his debate for a new genus is fueled by the fact that serrata and liops have differing numbers of dorsal and anal spines. I present to you today 2 of my more uncommon finds from Green River showing variations of these animals. 99%+ of the Cockerellites found have just 10 dorsal spines, I present today my 2 unique finds from this past dig season! Fish number 1 was discovered on July 29, 2017 Fish number 2 was discovered on September 23, 2017 The first picture shows a Cockerellites liops with 11 dorsal spines. this second photos shows an even more perplexing mutation. This Cockerellites liops has 12 dorsal spines!! While multiple fish have been found with 11 dorsal spines, I am unsure if anyone has ever found a fish with 12 dorsal spines. This is a very unique occurrence and should this fish be a new variant it will be donated to Fossil Butte National Monument! Even though he is missing most of his anal fins, this fish could still be a very important specimen to show mutations. So, do you think these 2 fish could represent new species within the Genus? Or are they simply mutations?
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I also brought home a small box of prepped out fossil fish today. Ive got a bunch more in my fossil shed, but those will come home another day, including some nice big ones. Ive got to start displaying them. Oh, now I see that ive got the black myo upside down. Dang! RB
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I just had to show this one off! I saved the Notogoneous from a terrible fate of never being prepped! My buddy thought he was missing part of his head after he roughed it out so he set it aside. Notogoneous is my favourite fish so I took a gamble and had it prepped out, to my surprise it was all there with a wide open mouth! Notogoneous: 24 1/8 inches (61.28cm) Diplomystus: 15 inches (38.10cm) Knightia: 7 inches (17.78cm) Cockerellites (Priscacara): 5 3/4 inches (14.60cm) Entire panel measures 63 1/2 inches (156.21cm) wide by 22 inches (55.88cm) tall.
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I bought a slab some time ago, and have finally gotten around to prepping it. (Note, I do not have an air scribe, so it takes quite a bit of time) Current Progress: (20 minutes) Only the vertebrae and a few ribs are visible here. I have noticed as I am going along, it is much more difficult than it appeared when I first purchased it. The skin is fairly intact, though there are some patches that are missing. Use a gum eraser to help clean away the dust because it is gentle, particularly on the fragile bones. All I am using is a small hand prepping tool, and though it is time consuming, it still works for me.
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Prep was just finished on this lovely panel. All three fish are 100% natural. NO INLAY! NO PAINT! Wonderful panel with three fish. Notongoneous (long skinny guy) Diplomystus (big fat one) Priscacara (spiny one) This panel measures 34 inches tall x 45 inches wide.
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Priscacara Serrata is one of several species of recognized in the Green River formation. It is less common that its relative the Priacacara Liops.
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Hypsipriscaca hypsacantha (Cope, 1866) Eocene Ypresian Green River Formation Nunn's Quarry USA-
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