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I participated in the Spring meeting of the Florida Paleontological Society this week end.. Saturday I was up at 5 am to drive to Gainesville and see some old friends including @digit. We had presentations from Paleontology students on their field projects and the treat of visiting the Paleontology research lab collections (Vert, Invert, Plants) under the guidance of UF experts. Dinner, discussion, and an auction in the evening . Saturday was jammed full. I have taken a set of photos which I'll share in another thread.. hopefully tomorrow. This is about Sunday. A field trip to Haile Quarry in Newberry, Fl. We are allowed in the Quarry for three hours and time flies when I am hunting fossils.. We moved twice looking in three sites.. I found many seashells and a few echinoids, including a gigantic one where I can not recall the name. I will likely get to a thread on my other finds Wednesday (Hunting again Tuesday). In this case, I wanted to show my prize and ask for Identification help before going to sleep. At the last site was a Sink hole, which had been partially excavated by a team of UF graduate students some decades ago, They found all sorts of bones, skeletons, teeth , Miocene aged. and I only had twenty five minutes before we left.. It was not sufficient to find a lot of quantity. but 10 minutes in, I found this Rhino upper Molar just laying on the ground. I had to pinch myself. I was NOT expecting Rhino. Note that Hunter_Schreger Bands are visible in the enamel, just as we would expect. So the 1st question is : Florida had 3-4 Rhino species. 1) Florida Rhino (Aphelops mutilus) From Alachua Co., Florida Lived ~8 million years ago 2) Panama Rhino (Floridaceras whitei) Adult (cast) and Juvenile From the Republic of Panama, Central America 3) Teleoceras proterum Lived ~10 million years ago 4) Menoceras ("Crescent Horns"[4]) is a genus of extinct, small rhinocerotids endemic to most of southern North America and ranged as far south as Panama during the early Miocene epoch. It lived from around 30.7—19.7 Ma, existing for approximately 11 million years. For the time being, I am thinking Teleoceras proterum, the one I know best. Here is an upper jaw of Teleoceras proterum. Teleoceras fossils have been found inside the Haile quarry. I have started at this photo above. It is not a perfect match, but I am thinking an upper left P3... Comments/Suggestions appreciated. Jack
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Hello there here is another skull I’ve seen online and I’m interested in. Any red flags? I don’t have much info I’m afraid… Any and all help is very welcome!
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Is my fossil from South Dakota a hyracodon tooth
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Hello everyone this is my first post on the fossil forum.I’m 16 year old girl with autisum that loves fossils and I need help Identifying a fossil I got at a fossil/gemstone shop in South Dakota.I think it may be the rhino species Hyracodon.I also have a another fossil I got from the same place and I think it may be fossil horse or oredont tooth.So I would really appreciate it if someone can help me identify these.please and thank you. -
How do I preserve my fossil rhino tooth? It’s started to crack.
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Back in February, my partner found a small tooth that I initially thought to be Gomph. I made him an offer he couldn't refuse. I sent some photos to Richard Hulbert and (surprisingly to me) Richard identified it as a Rhino upper cheek tooth. I did not argue, and once I spotted the Hunter_Schreger Bands in the 1st photos, thought the ID to be correct , although I have never seen an upper Rhino tooth that had this wear pattern. This is what upper T. proterum Rhino teeth look like in Florida, Does anyone recognize my tooth in this photo below? Fast forward to June. We are hunting the same area, and this time I find a small tooth that seems very similar ... especially when it dries out. and before it dries out, I notice those HSBs again.. Now as I compare this to the M3 in the above photo , it might be an upper molar, but in this case, Richard sees it as an unidentifiable Rhino tooth fragment. I am not so sure. So, here are the Questions... Are both teeth Teleoceras Proterum teeth or something else? Is the 2nd tooth an M3 ? Is the 1st tooth an upper Jaw tooth? I will flag @Harry Pristis in the hope that he has collected a baby/juvenile Florida Rhino maxilla for comparison purposes. Thanks for you r help on this one. Jack
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I found this strange tooth that reminds me of some small rhino teeth I have seen on the forum, but I'm not sure, it seems too small, any help? Thanks!
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Hello, I found some fossil teeth on a friends ranch in Eastern Oregon and was hoping for some help with ID. The area has been described as Mascall Formation (16 Ma) from the Miocene, however there aren't any detailed geologic maps of the region and I suspect some areas may be closer to the Pliocene. The teeth were found as float material from several places. I think #1 or #2 may be Merychippus or Pliohippus (horses) and #4 may be Equus (horse). #1-3 were all found in the same general area and I am fairly confident it is Mascall Fm (Miocene). However, #4 was found in another area and appears to be Equus. Since Equus is from the Pliocene, I am thinking it could be from the younger (Pliocene) Rattlesnake Fm or an undescribed strata. I am a little more unsure about #3 and think I could be a rhino or similar large mammal. Thank you for your help,
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6 months ago, hunting with a partner who found this tooth that I initially identified as Rhino. See those crossing lines in the thin enamel of the 1st two photos. I had seen that in other Rhino tooth enamel found in this location. Before asking TFF for an Id on any fossil, I search TFF for similar fossils and found a thread where @Harry Pristis identified a very similar tooth as Cow or Bison. I never put this one up for identification on TFF. Today, I was commenting on this FossilID thread posted by @Done Drillin http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/124645-peace-river-id-help/&tab=comments#comment-1358464 and noted that Harry Identified a very similar tooth once again as Cow or Bison.. The last find appears to be a bovid p3 . . . the enamel striations suggest bison. I have studied the enamel and see the striations on the outside of the enamel of Done Drillin's tooth, and not on the domestic cow example above. Here is an example of lines in the enamel ... So, now I am wondering on the identification of this tooth. I have thought for 6 months that it is a Bison premolar. Do Bison and Rhino have similar lines within the enamel of their teeth? and are those lines missing in modern cow?
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From the album: My collection in progress
Stephanorhinus sp. Kretzoi 1942 Location: Bugyi, Pest County, Hungary Age: 2,5 - 0,01 Mya (Pleistocene, Quaternary) Measurements: 3,8x6,3 cm (tooth) Kingdom: Animalia Phylum: Chordata Subphylum: Vertebrata Class: Mammalia Subclass: Theria Superorder: Laurasiatheria Order: Perissodactyla Suborder: Ceratomorpha Family: Rhinocerotidae-
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With pleasure I want to show you my collection of fossils - it's a work in progress. My first piece is this Lycoptera davidi from Western Liaoning, my brother's gift for my birthday. The plate is 13 centimeters long, the fish 8 centimeters long.
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I went to the Peace River today. It seemed like a great way to spend Memorial day. My spouse had the Hotdogs, baked beans and coleslaw waiting for me to get home. My friend @jcbshark was asking for an ID. For the 1st 3 hours of digging , the finds were ONLY pretty colored small shark teeth, mostly broken , mostly hemis, but a few were perfect. Then I moved locations to be closer to my hunting partner and at first the only thing that changed was the small shark teeth were black. In the last hour a couple of bones made my day... Big smile BIG smile... 1st from a tortoise, a rather unique bone. I found a "double" 10 years back, You could read about it here... http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/111416-scutes-unknown/ The 2nd is a bone I did not recognize and request an ID. @Harry Pristis may be able to help. Some additional views, The reason I am excited is that I found this Worthpoint fossil and wondered What are the possibilities https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/fossil-miocene-rhinoceros-medial-1923733683
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This isn’t one of my personal fossils but is part of the fossil exhibit at the Gateway Science Museum in Chico where I work. I’ve posted some stuff from this in other threads here but we’ve been questioning this particular one a bit. The fossils come from the Mehrten Formation in Central California and were dated to 8.2 million years old. These are associated finds and have been tentatively identified as belonging to a Rhino. I don’t have a genus beyond it’s Rhino. The lead fossil preparator, Sean Nies and I, both wanted to double check the ID. The tooth is a bit different than the other Rhino teeth from the site and the jaw pieces looked thinner than those in the reference books. Not saying the ID is wrong. Confirmation would be helpful though I am most definitely not an expert in Miocene mammals so my knowledge is limited. I just thought it was worth posting here and getting other opinions The tooth is 6.5 cm in height and 3.1cm wide.
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Just received this rhino jaw piece from indonesia and would like to get some opinions if its real and do you seen any repair or resto?
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Hello, I found this today on the North Norfolk coast, England (Trimingham). I don’t have daylight photos but do have this video. Happy to post photos tomorrow if the video is not good enough! IMG_1351.MOV
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Hello all. New to this site but not new to fossils. By no means an expert so always learning. Have hunted here in SW Florida for over 10 years and have also had the great opportunity to hunt the White River formation in NW Nebraska a few times and am hooked. Hope to continue hunting out there if I can find good locations that allow it.
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Hello ! For my first post I want to show you some mammal teeth. I don't have a lot of informations about them, probably from North Africa. I don't know their age but all are mineralized so not that recent. I can add the sizes if it's very necessary. Some of them are very characteristics so I hope that an ID is possible. There are I think Rhinocerotidae, maybe Camelidae and others... I'm not good with mammal, all the infos are welcome ! Thanks for your help !
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Just sharing some more fossils I had the pleasure of getting identified. Again, from Northeast Nebraska, found in a creek that runs through both the Valentine and Ash Hollow formations. While there, I had the privilege of working at a fossil site absolutely FULL of complete teleoceras skeletons, and was able to ID the femur cap with help from the paleontologist there- the little articulated lip was the perfect match. I attached a photo of the femur another species of teleoceras (the only photo I could find of one) so you can see the comparison. The rib matched the thickness and shape of the rhino ribs there and has appropriate mineralization for its age. Let me know what you think!
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I am mostly anchored to home for the next week, sorting some finds from last month. My process is to pick up almost everything I see, in case it might be a rare fossil (or fossil fragment) that I just do not recognize. I have always thrown back, donated, gifted 80% of what I bring home and that have become critical to keep my "collection" at a level that my spouse will allow. In fact , now I am closer to 95%.... So, with most of the finds already eliminated: There is a few great finds here, that I am able to ID myself. The ones in blue are those I will probably add to my collections. Everything else goes. Any corrections of my IDs are appreciated. I am trying for an Identification on the Whale petrosal. Even whether it is Baleen or Toothed. Realize that I likely need @Boesse to see this.
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Hey guys I found an impressive looking Chilotherium rhino fossil skull and was wondering what you think about it, how does it look in terms of restoration and repair. Thanks!
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The river has been receding daily, and I found this sacrum two days ago laying in sandy gravel that had just been exposed. Mostly Pleistocene fossils here. Due to its size, I thought it may be from one of the larger herbivore mammals. But due to wear, it's a little hard for me to tell how tapered or straight the original structure was, which seems pretty diagnostic in differentiating between the species. Several examples I've seen look similar, but I'm having a hard time finding any with sizes listed, so I'm a little lost. Can anyone shed some more light on this? Thank you! --Brandy
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Menoceras cf. M. arikarense and Equus sp. astragali from Florida.© Harry Pristis 2021
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Menoceras cf. M. arikarense and Equus sp. bones from Florida.© Harry Pristis 2021
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