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  1. Shellseeker

    Sanibel Shell Show

    There are frequently events to help tourists spend money. The Shell Show certainly qualifies. I went this morning. Here are some of the displays that I enjoyed.. Some from Sanibel, Key West, Bahamas, Morocco, Senegal.... This sheller has been traveling... A close_up Sanibel and Fort Myers Beach took a direct hit mid_afternoon from Hurricane Ian. It destroyed 98% of mangroves (Black, White, Red) in the vicinity. So far, only the Red mangroves are starting to recover near the Marriott. I used to collect modern shells, now more of fossil shells and I do not buy shells anymore....
  2. Desrosiers1718

    Shell Palos Verdes area.

    Found this on a cove near Palos Verdes CA wondering is it a fossil shell or something modern, looks something like a murex, but maybe a whelk ???
  3. I’m pretty new to fossils—I have found a few strays before. But the other day, I found what appears to be an entire fossil bed. It’s about a 150 square foot area, full of fossils, on a hillside ridge near the Whetstone Mountains, outside of Tucson, AZ. I don’t know if this sort of find is very common. But there is a layer with what I think are marine fossils—hundreds and hundreds of seashells. And then about 50 feet in elevation above that layer are what appears to be long bone fossils. Dozens and dozens of them. Most are about as thick as my fingers and the longest are about 18 inches. The reason I think they are bones is because of Photos #9-12, which show what seems to be a bone which was snapped in half before fossilization. Please correct me if I’m wrong—I am no expert here. I believe there are still some seashell fossils mixed in with the bones. But there are no bones in the lower seashell layer that I could tell. The Carmex container is 35mm in diameter. Most of the well-preserved seashells are 1cm long or less. The shells that appear to be sitting on top of the bedrock are actually firmly attached. There are also loose bone fossils that have washed out of the rock—see photo 19. I’m sorry my photography is not very good. I do have several more photos if anyone wants to see them. Some of the photos rotated when uploaded--I'm not sure why. I am very curious to know if anyone can tell me what kind of bones these might be. (If they are bones.) And how old they might be. I’m also curious to know if anyone can age and identify the kinds of sea life in the lower fossils. Photo #5 has a bigger spiral that looks like a fossil. Also can anyone tell me what kind of stone is the gray rock which the fossils are trapped in? It’s very gritty and there’s absolutely tons of it. Is the gray rock what you would call bedrock? Also, what kind of stone are the fossils themselves in this case? Really I would be grateful to know anything you all could tell me about these fossils. I’m absolutely fascinated by it all. Thanks in advance.
  4. This has been a very busy week for me and my fossil addiction. I was out to the Peace River on Tuesday, attended the Lee County , Florida Fossil Club meeting Thursday, went to the Friday night dinner preceding the FPS meeting and was fortunate to be part of those FPS members who went on a field trip to a Pliocene-Pleistocene Shell Pit in Charlotte County, Florida. I know at least 4 other FPS and TFF members who also participated in this Outstanding Field trip. 1) I have volunteered to write_up this field trip for the next FPS Newsletter. I will do that and when complete, will post a copy to this thread. 2) I will also, as time permits, post photos of my many finds.. They need to be cleaned first. @calhounensis is a FPS member and participated in the Shell Pit hunt. He was extremely generous in giving me a number of horse teeth he found, suggesting that I would enjoy them more because I seem addicted to fossil horse teeth. 3) I will attempt identification of all these horse teeth and post my success or lack thereof. Right now the Horse teeth are soaking in water. In addition to these horse teeth (Equus and pre_equus) I heard that a Mako, and some Great Whites, some echinoids and Sand Dollars were found but the dominant % of finds are seashells and corals.... they were all over the ground. I invite any and all TFF members in attendance to post comments on the trip, photos of a few or many of their finds, or not. I have had a great week, just in the company of my numerous fossil addicted friends... but I am weary, and will get some sleep before my next post to this thread. Jack
  5. STAVROULATD

    Seashell rock fossil

    Anyone has any idea what this is? My husband found it in our fields in Crete approx. 400m .
  6. Shellseeker

    A Peace River Location

    As noted elsewhere, I am accelerating into the end of season on the Peace River. More days hunting, less sleep at night. I am finding lots of items to identify, but not much time to photo, and post. Normally I find Pleistocene mammal fossils, but in the huge variety of the Peace River, I sometimes run across something else. Just sharing a different set of fossils. Along with Equus and Tapir teeth, I start finding seashells, most are broken fragments because there are lots of rocks and bedrock in the river, but a few recognizable. Lots of this showing up on my sieve. but just a little of this.... So thinking marine, will stay with that thought. I find fragments of ray teeth all the time, but these chunks of ray mouthplate are pretty unusual and I have found 2-3 . and then a Meg...photographed with sunlight flowing thru screening: Now what seems to be a fish tooth ... or is it alligator and finally a bird claw and a horse tooth. It was pretty hot out there and it is a lot easier to see small fossils in the sunshine. I managed to position myself so that the screen was in the sunshine, and I am in the shade, standing over the location producing this wide variety and age of fossils. I think this last horse tooth may be too small for Equus, making this location at least Pliocene, and possibly Miocene. I was also considering which fossils were the rarest for me to find... the fish tooth and the ray plate fragments. Enjoy, Jack
  7. Fishkeeper

    "Seashell" display?

    I have a few dozen not-quite-fossilized-yet shells, ranging from 5cm to 1mm, mostly in the range of about 2cm. I also have a glass cabinet that I display modern seashells in, and I'd like to put them in one section of that cabinet. Does anyone have any general display suggestions? I have some of the tiniest ones in little plastic boxes so they can be seen close up, and am thinking of a sort of miniature shelf arrangement to set a lot of the rest on. The cabinet is away from a window, the nearest window has UV film over it anyway, and the fossils don't have much color to them that would need to be preserved. LED lights won't hurt them any, right? Any pictures of how y'all display your microfossils? I'm aiming for something that straddles the line between practicality and aesthetic, where the fossils won't be damaged and are displayed in a way that allows for proper labeling, but can be seen openly instead of them being in drawers? What about putting a lot of these in little boxes, with cotton or another substance to gently press them against the lid so they don't move around? I know people do that with regular seashells sometimes, but these are particularly fragile.
  8. On a class field trip for 3rd Block (3rd Period), we went to Freedom Park to measure slope, air temperature, soil temperature, etc. of the Northern & Southern sides/slopes of hills. In between the hill slants, there was a creek bed. Inside the creek bed, there are fossils that I just had to pick up some. I got this oyster and this other shell. It seems everywhere I go (someplace new in nature, or a field trip) I always find either a fossil shell or seashell or land shell. It's really weird, but cool, because mollusks are my favorite type of fossil. And fossils are my favorite study. I am somewhat surprised, still, when I find the shells and fossils, even though it happens every time. The white one I've never seen before, but it's hard to identify because it's broken. I wish I knew what it was...I've tried to figure it out. Actually....I have a guess. It's some kind of clam. It's a tongue shell! It's gotta be! These fossils I found in that creek. I thought it was an interesting story, so I wanted to share it.
  9. daves64

    Semi transparent shells?

    I recently bought a smallish "fossil kit" online. Just some fossils in a bag from an outfit in West Virginia. I figured there would be a lot of steinkerns & bad preservation. I wasn't wrong in that. Lots of gastropod steinkerns, mangled urchins & urchin spines & star shaped crinoid stem sections. And some shells that seem sort of crystallized that light shines through. 2 reg pics of one of the better ones + 2 pics of light shining through. Pic #5 is an edge view of one of the broken ones & #6 is what I think may be beekite, which is present on several of them. Not really concerned with shell id for the most part, more curious as to what replaced the shells to make them semi transparent like this. Almost crystallized or agatized.
  10. Hi all, As always, I am looking for more bivalve fossils to complete my collection. I saw somewhere that the species Venericardia planicosta (previously also known as Cardita planicosta and Megacardita planicosta), which appears in Eocene European sediments, also appears in American sediments. I often go to Zeeland (south-west Netherlands), and on the beaches of the region, this species can be found. I already found two times an umbo, one of them huge, but to this date I still haven't found a complete one (but I will keep trying!!!). Now, I don't want a Dutch specimen of this species, because I would like to find that myself, but if someone has this species from another country (and is willing to trade it) that would be awesome. Then again, I am also looking for any other cool bivalve species that you may have available for trade! The only ones I don't want are: Dutch bivalves Belgian bivalves French bivalves Bivalves from Estero Bluffs, CA Several Florida species (too many to mention; so if you have some uncommon ones that you think I might not have yet, send them through and I will say if I want them or not) Chesapecten nefrens from Calvert Cliffs There are a few other ones, but that list should cover most of the things I don't want. The reason I made the list is simply because I don't want to have duplicates in my collection. And I often get the opportunity to collect fossils in the Netherlands/Belgium/France, so I prefer to go look for them myself. Luckily, because the bivalve fauna is so fantastically wide, the chance is small that I have what you have to offer! In return, I have a wide range of different fossils, many European, and several from closed locations too. Not many display pieces though, more small cool things. Oh, please remember! Postage is to the Netherlands! So unless you are also in the Netherlands, take into account that the international postage is likely to be expensive. I am willing to ship internationally, but make sure that you are also willing to do so before going into the trade. Now, send me a PM with some pictures of some lovely bivalves for me to drool on! Best regards, Max
  11. Max-fossils

    French Miocene shells

    Hi all, Here are 11 different shells, bivalves and gastropods, that I would like to be able to ID down to species level. I got them in a little bag full of these little shells, . I have a decent idea of the genus of most, but I'm lost as to when it comes to species. The shells are all from Ferriere-Larcon, Loire, France. It says on the label that they are from the "Falun de Pontelivien" ("falun" translates to "shelly", as in "shelly layer", referring to the main components of the layer: fossil shells), and that they are from the Serravallian stage of the Miocene (approx 12 mya). These are just 11 of the different species, from about an estimate of 40 different ones. These are the ones I am most interested in IDing for now. But, if you maybe have a document or so with a list or plates of all the possible species from this location/formation, that would be even better! In case better pictures are needed, let me know. Thanks in advance for the help, Max #1: Cardita sp (species... ?)
  12. Hey everyone, So today, after my second day of exams, which is why I finished earlier, I had to take the tram home instead of the schoolbus (that I usually take). On my way to the tram station, I noticed that there was some sand on the sidewalk. I looked closer, and saw that there were quite some shells all along the sidewalk. My passion for conchology (which I also have, though it's less strong than my love of fossils) took over and I began hunting for seashells. I only found bivalves, but was still quite surprised with what I got. When I got home, I looked more closely at the shells, and realized some of them were fossils!!! Here is my (unexpected, I should say) haul: 1) Mactra plistoneerlandica (fossil and modern) 2) Cerastoderma edule (fossil) 3) Limecola balthica (fossil and modern) --> I'm really happy that I found some more fossil ones of those, because nearly all of mine were already gone in trades! 4) Donax vittatus (modern) The fossils, found in the streets of The Hague (NL), are probably from the Pleistocene period (they are identical to those that I find on the Zandmotor, which is very closeby). It's really surprising how much you can find, even when you're not looking for fossils. Sometimes you find them in the most unexpected places, and you always get a very weird feeling of surprise and happiness when you do. It's often fun to try and figure out how those fossils got there, and I know the answer to this one: --> Sand is one of the most used resources in the world, and therefore often sought after for (even if it's extremely common). It's useful to build a support for things, such as sidewalks, or to make glass, and many other things. And where is the most sand found? On the bottom of the sea. And in that sand (especially the sand of the North Sea) lie many fossils. So when that sand is pumped upon land, the fossils are brought with it. This is how the fossils came here onto the sidewalk of a street of The Hague. In fact, it's that same sand that composes the Zandmotor, which was built as a natural dam against the floods (which have a bad history with the NL) from the sand of the sea, which is why it is so rich in fossils. I hope that this little report has pleased you, and that you've learned things! Therefore remember to always keep your eyes open for fossils, even if you're in normally non-fossil places! Best regards, Max
  13. Rowboater

    rappahannock creek trip

    Finally back from Singapore, so decided to brave (the much cooler) weather. Been away for three months and seemed to be a fair amount of collecting while I was away, hope they did well. I hunted hard for an hour or so with nothing but shells (which I don't usually pick up, but better than nothing!) Found a spot which produced maybe 75 small teeth (two angel shark, a broken cow shark, and teeth with very few cusplets, maybe washed more in millennial tides than those I usually find?) and a few interesting things that maybe I should post on the ID request section (?). Good to get my clothes muddy and my feet wet again. Will take a while (had just acclimated to Singapore) but don't notice much when digging / hunting. The first photo is most of the stuff collected. "2-3-18-teeth" shows the two angel shark teeth, some typical tiny teeth, and two things I cannot identify. "teeth 2 and 3" is a weird concave piece, have no idea what it could be(?), never noticed anything similar. "teeth 4" is a small oval piece with radial striations on the more flat side; two others are shown but the scanner couldn't capture the striations. Whatever it is it's fairly common. Thanks for any help. I think I'll try to get the bone ID'ed in the other section (will need to get better photos). 2-3-18-sharkteeth2.pdf 2-3-18-teeth3.pdf 2-3-18-teeth2.pdf 2-3-18-teeth.pdf 2-3-18-teeth4.pdf
  14. Hi all, So, as some of you already know, my trip to Florida is coming closer and closer I am indeed really looking forward to it! Well, I have some questions about the fossils there. Firstly, for the seashells found there (bivalves and gastropods), I know that many are fossil (mainly Miocene to Pleistocene). Well, I was wondering if perhaps there were any tricks or techniques to recognize fossil ones from modern ones. For example, for the Holland coasts bivalves, the fossil ones are usually thicker, dull, white/light grey in color, and they don't let any (or very little) light shine through. Well, I was wondering if there were similar tricks for the Florida seashells to find out whether a shell is fossil or not. Please do let me know how you do it! Oh, and one other quick question: are ALL the shells NOT found on the beach fossils? I know that in the Netherlands this is not the case (you can find shells several kilometers inland that are modern; they have been brought here by floods and storms), but was wondering if this was maybe different for Florida. And lastly, a quick question about the fossiling permits. Do I need to sign up for one (I will be collecting both invertebrate and vertebrate fossils, like shark teeth and dugong bones)? If yes, is one permit enough for the family, or does everyone need to apply for one individually? And how do I get them? So, recap: What are tricks/techniques for recognizing fossil seashells from modern ones? Are all the inland seashells fossilized? Do I need fossil hunting permits? Also, if there are any special laws that you think I should be aware of let me know too. Thanks in advance for your answers! Best regards, Max PS: just realized, this is actually more suitable for the Fossil Hunts thread... @Fossildude19 or another moderator, can you please move it? Thanks
  15. Max-fossils

    Which formation?

    Hi all, I have a question for you guys... But I wouldn't be too surprised if you don't know the answer. Well, as a few of you know, my local hunting spot is the Zandmotor, a beach extension in the south of The Hague. You can find some of my finds here: Well, I find many bivalves and gastropods here, that are from the Eemian stage of the Pleistocene (130'000 - 115'000 years ago). Those shells (like the other fossils found on the Zandmotor) are from pits in the North Sea. Those pits are very rich in fossils, and when boats come to bring the sand onto the beach, the fossils are taken along. So the shells here are the same as those found in Maasvlakte 2 or in Hoek van Holland (two other fossil hotspots similar to the Zandmotor), just like on any Zuid-Holland beach. And I was wondering, does anyone know what formation these shells are from? I know that here in the collections, putting in "Pleistocene sediments" is good enough, but I would like to know if this is really the formation they are in. Thanks in advance for your help! Best regards, Max
  16. Max-fossils

    A little spot of heaven

    Hi all, This Saturday was a long awaited day. It was meant to already happen 3 weekends earlier, but due to many different annoying factors (bad weather, last-minute activities, etc) we only got to do it later... Luckily this gave me some more time to finish buidling my homemade sifter: When a good day finally opened up for the hunt, we got all the equipment ready and packed the car. We then set off to our 1 1/2 hour road trip from The Hague till our final destination: a pit in the region of Antwerp, Belgium (*). We stopped after an hour of car ride in the village of Stabroek, in the north of Flanders. We went to this cute little restaurant called "Taverne de Neus" (translation: "Tavern the Nose", curious name). There we ate the real Belgian meal: garnalenkroket (search it up) with fries (this is, contrary to popular belief, a Belgian invention, and NOT French!). After having a full belly for the fossil hunting, we went back on the road and arrived at our final destination. We parked our car, and just as we arrived, a young man (who works at the Natuurhistorisch Museum Rotterdam) and his mother were leaving the area. They told us that up in the pit there was a lovely couple searching there, and that they would be able to give us many tips for on our first hunt here. So we went there, and met them. Very generous, they told us exactly how to find what, and thanks to them we quickly found fossils on our own too! Shortly after a very nice French-speaking family, with two kids of about 6 and 8, arrived at the location too. It was only their second time here, and they too were happy to receive some advice from the more experienced couple. We had some great fossil-related talks all together, and I think we all learnt a lot from one another. Now back to the actual hunt: in the sand, it was easy to find many nice fossil seashells and some whale bone pieces, and with a bit of luck some small broken shark teeth. But the "real stuff" was found by sifting the thick dark-grey sand underneath the grass. We had to first dig a hole in the grass, until we encountered a harder and "crunchier" layer of sand. We had to take some of this, put it in the sifter and then shake. And Tadaa! Beautiful shark teeth! The thing was, our sifter was a hand-sifter. Therefore it takes up a lot more energy to sift, and it is done less efficiently. The couple that were there had a much more useful system: a sifter with a foot. It had a long foot underneath, stuck in the ground, which made shaking a lot easier, as the weight of the sifter didn't have to be carried. Also, as they could therefore afford a heavier sifter, they put two screens on each other. The first one only for bigger fossils, the second one to also keep the smaller ones. This made their job a lot easier. My sifter still worked just fine, and for a first one I think it's pretty decent! The couple, which were also very generous, were kind enough to give us some nice shark teeth too, in order to slightly broaden our haul. Here is the total haul: guess I can't complain for a first time!!! On the far right, whale bone pieces. The three small black things under them are bivalve and gastropod steinkerns. Beneath those (middle-right) you have two concretions with scallops. Then all along the left side you have fossil seashells. Species include: Glycymeris, Laevastarte, Astarte, Natica, Cardites, Cyclocardia, Turitella, Nassarius, etc. Those shells are likely from the Pliocene. And finally, the things that might have caught your eye the most: shark teeth! Species include: Carcharodon, Carcharhinus, Isurus, Carcharoides, Notorhynchus, etc. Those shark teeth are usually from the Miocene-Pliocene, but some are from the Eocene. Here are the teeth that I got from the couple (so not personal finds; still very happy to have them!): And here what are, in my opinion, the best personal finds: Necklace shell (Natica sp. ?)
  17. Max-fossils

    Scaphopod: species?

    Hi all, Two days ago, during my hunt on the Zandmotor, I found my first scaphopod!!! Is the species Antalis vulgaris, or is it another one? Found on the Zandmotor (Netherlands), from the Eemian stage of the Pleistocene (120'000 years old). Thanks in advance, Max
  18. Shellseeker

    Opportunity knocks

    Just back from a non fossil trip north. Recently had a cataract operation and had a follow up doctors visit. I have been craving fossil hunting activity. On the was home, lo and behold , a dump truck was pulling out leaving a pile of sand , shells and maybe a fossil or two!! I was there for 45 minutes and by the time I left, there were 15-20 others searching and digging thru the pile. Now all I have to do is identify, assisted by MikeR's fantastic gallery of Florida shells some more of the finds. I am attracted to Gastropoda!
  19. Hi all, As well as being a great fossil enthusiast, I also love finding modern remains of life and nature. Like a few of you already know, I am also quite fond of seashells (fossil seashells are one of my favorite things). Minerals also interest me, though I don't know much about them. And anything else to do with nature will get me interested. I just came back yesterday from some fantastic holidays in Greece, and didn't come back empty-handed! At first, we stayed for a few days at one of our friend's house on the Greek island Paros. Then, we spent one night in Athens to visit the famous Acropolis, before spending a few days at Gerolimenas, a small village at the tip of the Mani peninsula (Peloponnese). Finally we stayed two nights in Nafplio, in the north of the Peloponnese, and then returned to the cold and rainy Netherlands. Surely holidays to remember! Of course, I was constantly looking around for fossils, seashells, and other things, enjoying the slightly nerdy activities we all here enjoy so much. Though no fossils were found, I did find a few other things. Here are my different hauls! Chapter 1: Paros Paros is a lovely, typically Greek island, in the Aegean sea. The first few days here, having visited several different beaches, I found nearly nothing. Then one day, after having eaten a delicious grilled squid, I strolled on the beach, and bingo! Seashells everywhere! I quickly grabbed a plastic bag and filled it up with little treasures. I was really stunned by the beautiful Noah's Ark shells. That was the only beach where I made finds, but the finds were so great that it was enough to leave the place with good memories and happy hands. Total haul (things on top are not seashells, but other miscellaneous things): Some of my favorites: A small Diodora graeca: A very nice Haliotis mykonosensis: A beautiful Neverita josephina: A touch-looking crab claw: Some cool pink-red urchin spines: A small but stunning Arca noae:
  20. Shellseeker

    Hunting Seashells

    Over this weekend, I managed to arrange a trip to a NE Florida Aggregate trip, meeting up with a number of Seashell enthusiasts for a 4 hour hunt in some brutally hot Florida sunshine. Our group was very fortunate that it was overcast with an occasional breeze and that greatly improved the hunting. The only other TFF member participating was (I think) MikeR and he found much more than I did, and actually knows almost all the names of these seashells. The location is Nashua formation which spans the Pliocene and Pleistocene boundaries. Unfortunately , I left my camera in the car and so my non-seashells photos are Saint John's River from Palatka, Atlantic Ocean looking across AIA and the knuckles of my left hand. I found lots of different shells (Euspira sayana, Neverita duplicata, Heilprinia malcomi, LOTS of Olive rusksorum, Cancellaria bellumun, Conus Adversarius, among a lot of others whole and broken that I do not recognize ---yet). Here are some shell photos A pretty Oyster pair. with attached Calcite crystals (ala Ruck's pit)
  21. Hello everyone! Saturday, I went hunting again at the Zandmotor. Even though it is only 25 min away by car from my house, I don't get to hunt there often. First off, a small introduction to the Zandmotor: The Zandmotor is a big beach extension between Kijkduin and Ter Heijde, and it is made by man. The fossils found there are mainly seashells (clams and cockles), which fill the beach, and also mammal bones, which most people search for (most just ignore the seashells, which leaves more for a seashell-lover like me ). Sometimes great white shark teeth are found too, but they are the only species of shark found at the Zandmotor (from what I heard); it's a mystery as to how the shark teeth got there. All the fossils date from the Pleistocene to the Holocene periods (so they are relatively young). The reason that fossils can be found there is because the fossils got dredged up from the North Sea, which is very rich in fossils; the case is similar for the Maasvlakte 2 and the Hoek van Holland, two other locations on the Dutch coast. The Zandmotor actually just looks like any other normal sandy beach, and many people just use it as such. In fact many people that regularly go on the Zandmotor ignore that fossils can be found! The Zandmotor is also a popular place for taking your dog out for a walk. Now my trip report: When we arrived, it was still rather cloudy, but at least it wasn't raining and there was little wind. We did put on our fat coats and were well prepared to face the cold. The small crash of the waves and the squawk of the seagulls filled the air. In the background, the harbor could be seen. Lucky for us, the weather quickly cleared up and gave way to a nice blue sky.
  22. Max-fossils

    2 pholads: Zirfaea pilsbryi

    From the album: @Max-fossils 's Zandmotor Finds

    Two pholads from the Zandmotor, species Zirfaea pilsbryi.
  23. Hello, I hope today finds you digging. I am a very curious cat, in our garden area, there is a wide variety of rock types. Some are beautiful river rock, we also have an abundance of seashells. Being the amature/hobbiest that I am, I am always trying to learn and look for reasons to be digging in particular areas. The area that I am in now is clay, loads and levels and layers of clay, uugghhhh. Now with that I believe I have found a couple of fossils, oncolites and a type of sponge. The pics are on here. I am wondering, in this crazy clay what do I need to look for? I find flint, quartz crystalization, obsidion, etc. Any ideas, maybe 15 feet? Thank you ahead of time. I want a trillobite lol!
  24. Max-fossils

    Seashells: fossil or not?

    Hello everyone, Hereby three shells. I would like to know whether they are fossil or not, because I can't tell... Pics 1 & 2: a gastropod from an unknown location (8cm long). Also, does anyone know the species? Pics 3 & 4: two rough piddocks (Zirfaea pilsbryi) (each about 7 cm). The white one is from an unknown location; the blue/grey one was found on the Zandmotor (Pleistocene fossils and modern material). Thanks in advance for your help, Max
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