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  1. Hi Everyone, I am completely new to the forum but have loved fossils since I was a kid holidaying on the Jurassic Coast in the UK. I was searching for potential fossil sites in the Netherlands and went to Zandmotor (Den Haag, Netherlands) hoping to discover a complete Mammouth Skull. Sadly this hasn't happened yet, but I found numerous interesting finds (which I photographed below). My girlfriend and I have managed to identify most of them however I am having trouble identifying the second picture of the (brown pointed pieces). I think they could be fossilised wood (they look wooden to me but then part of me thinks they could be bone - ribs perhaps). Of course, they could just be nothing at all. My Girlfriend's 9-year-old daughter now has to know what they are, so I thought I would ask some experts. I would love any input on this as this is not something I have encountered before. Any help would be gratefully received. Many thanks in advance Mickey
  2. Found this tiny bone fragment at the Zandmotor beach in the Netherlands. Fossils from this beach are mainly from the Pleistocene. I have absolutely no clue from what animal this might be, so I’m hoping somebody recognizes it.
  3. Sebassie

    Small rodent tibia?

    Found this mineralized tibia at the Zandmotor beach in the Netherlands. This beach is known for Pleistocene fossils. I don’t know much about rodents, but it was suggested to me that it might be Arvicola amphibius. It is probably a bit too large for mouse or mole. I would love to hear thoughts/suggestions on what it might be.
  4. Sebassie

    Zandmotor trip top 3

    A couple of weeks ago I went on a trip to the Zandmotor beach in the Netherlands. This beach is mainly known for Pleistocene fossils. I try to go every couple of weeks, but this time I found a couple of really nice fossils - all within the time span of 20-30 minutes. In total I stayed for a couple of hours and found a couple more bone fragments. I would love to share my top 3 with you: The first one is the best fossil I’ve found so far: a piece of upper jaw from a woolly rhino (coelodonta antiquitatis) with the first molar. The second one is a complete radius from an otter (lutra lutra). The final find of the three was a fragment of a radius from either a cave lion (panthera leo spelaea) or a bear (ursus sp.). I still need to compare this one in real life with someone else’s collection. I’m incredibly stoked to have found these beautiful fossils and wanted to share it with you!
  5. Sebassie

    Big fish vert

    Found this relatively big fish vert at the Zandmotor beach near The Hague, the Netherlands. Usual finds are from the Pleistocene, but fish fossils may be older. Would anyone know what species this vert is from?
  6. Max-fossils

    Nice bird bone from the Zandmotor

    Hi everyone! Last week I found this nice, rather big, bird bone on the Zandmotor (Netherlands). It is most likely late Pleistocene in Age (Weichselian) but could possibly be older (though I doubt this is any older than early Pleistocene, given the conservation). I believe it to be a femur of a rather large species of bird. My first thought was the great auk, Pinguinus impennis, but I think my bone is probably not sturdy/thick enough for such a heavy bird. I'm currently thinking it might be something like a large sea gull, but this is just guess work, and birds are definitely not my area of expertise. What do you guys think it might be? Also, if any of you has some kind of free identification guide/paper for bird bones (modern/fossil), could you please share it? I'll already tag @Auspex and @MarcoSr as I remember that you two have worked with bird bones before Thanks in advance for your help! Max
  7. Greetings, First post here, and I'm at a loss trying to identify this (suspected) fossil. I found this a few days ago on Zandmotor beach, in Monster in The Netherlands. On first glance it appears to be a molar, but it looks very different from the Pleistocene material that Zandmotor beach is known for. I've never seen a molar inside a matrix like this one. Some have suggested that it's just a rock, or maybe a piece of limonite. I realise that this specimen looks completely different from other fossil material found at Zandmotor beach, but I'm still positive that this is some kind of fossil. Personally I think it's part of a molar inside a matrix, maybe flint? Someone suggested a sea urchin instead of a molar, which might make sense. Older than Pleistocene considering the level of mineralisation. Picture 1 - 4 show various view of the specimen, with what appears to be part of the crown, and the mold of a root (cast still present at the base of the root (part closest to the crown). Picture 5 shows a second root. Picture 6 - 9 are close-ups of this root, plus a mold of a third root. It appears that some enamel still lines the second root and the inside of the cast. I find it hard to believe that is 'just a rock' or a bit of limonite. If so, it's trying pretty hard to look like something else. What are your views? I would be very grateful if you can help me! PS: Let me know if any additional photographs are needed.
  8. BirdsAreDinosaurs

    Eight North Sea bone fragments

    Hi all. These are eight bone fragments that I found a couple of years ago on the beach near the Zandmotor, the Netherlands. I realize that most (if not all) of these fragments probably are impossible to id, but any information would be great. Some additional pictures of fragment 1: Number two has a tiny whole (foramen) in it. Here is an extra photo of the top of the fragment: And some more pictures of fragment three: Number 6 at first sight appears to be part of some kind of disk (2 cm high). One side is very smooth/shiny. Thanks! Any information is appreciated! If you need additional pictures from other angles, let me know.
  9. AnyArthropod

    Weird possible bones zandmotor

    Hello fellow fossil fans, recently I have been fossil hunting on zandmotor again. During this fossilize trip I found a piece of bone that bore a slight resemblance to a piece i never have been able to ID I found a few years ago. I put them next to eachother in this post. Any ideas? Thanks for looking,
  10. Hello fellow fossil fans, In this post I have a piece of bone I have found on zandmotor a few months ago. I know bone fragments are hard to ID. However I hope that perhaps because of its distinctive shape any of you could give me an idea of what it could be. thanks in advance!
  11. I went to the Zandmotor recently while visiting The Netherlands and wanted some clarity on some of my finds. I found a number of shells, two fish vertebrae, and two different mammalian bone fragments. This, however, is all I can make of any of them, and would appreciate more specific ID's if anyone out there knows. The shells should be middle Pleistocene (if they're not actually recent shells lol), and everything else (likely) late Pleistocene. Thank you! Fish Verts: Perhaps not fossil-- Baltic Macoma? Not sure about this either (whelk?), lovely shell either way: Mammal Chunk 1: Mammal Chunk 2: Mammal Chunk 1 again: More Shells (Oysters, a gastropod, and a cockle (I think)):
  12. Max-fossils

    Thoracic vertebra from a pinniped?

    Hey everyone, I found this vertebra back in April on the Zandmotor (Netherlands, most likely late Pleistocene in age). I believe it's a thoracic vertebra from some pinniped, but I'm not sure. I've been comparing it to several vertebrae online, especially using the Osteology section in the Idaho Virtual Museum website (which is quite good, perhaps a useful resource for some of you!). Unfortunately, I am not finding any satisfying matches. The different seal thoracic vertebrae I am seeing look most similar, but they all appear to have a less wide corpus than my specimen. I'm really hoping to be able to put a species name on this specimen; I know it's not complete, but I feel like enough of it is there to be able to make a confident species guess. But I will settle for a less specific ID if necessary. So, what do you guys think? I'm looking forward to hearing your opinions! Best, Max EDIT: just realized there are no size references on my photos, sorry! The vertebra is 8cm wide at its widest point and 5cm long. The corpus is 5.5cm wide and 3cm high.
  13. From the album: Gastropods and Bivalves Worldwide

    ø 5cm. Eemian, Pleistocene. Found at Zandmotor, Zuid Holland, Netherlands.
  14. Max-fossils

    Fish bone from the Zandmotor

    Hey everyone, Found this bone yesterday on the Zandmotor, Netherlands (most likely Eemian in age, late Pleistocene, around 120'000 years old). Judging by the structure I'm fairly confident it's from a fish, but I'm having a hard time figuring out what bone it could be. My best guess so far is that it's a parietal bone, but I'm not yet convinced. I'm not finding much comparison material online; although I may be using the wrong search words. I'm also curious if you maybe know if it's possible to identify this bone further than Teleostei indet. It's quite big (scale in centimeters), so maybe something like an Atlantic cod (Gadus morhua)? What do you guys think? Thanks in advance, Max
  15. Max-fossils

    Some recent Zandmotor finds

    Hey everyone! Hope everyone's doing alright during this stressful situation! I haven't been too active on TFF (or with fossils in general) the past few months (mostly due to school work), but with the whole virus situation I suddenly have some more free time. The Netherlands aren't currently under strict quarantine, but schools are closed, and we're firmly recommended to stay at home and forbidden to go out in groups of more than 3. But, luckily fossil hunting is still possible, so after a long winter hiatus I finally went back to the Zandmotor (last time was when I found that mammoth tooth in October!), not once, but twice (Tuesday 17th from 11 to 6, and Sunday 22nd from 2 to 4 about). Nothing very eventful happened during either of the trips, so I'm not gonna make a whole trip report, but just show you some nice location pictures and some of the most interesting or rarer finds. What I will however mention is that the beach has changed a lot since the last time I was there, especially when considering where certain dunes, elevated parts or shell banks were located. In fact, the change between Tuesday and Sunday was impressive too. Crazy what wind and erosion are capable of!
  16. Max-fossils

    Weird little fish (?) osteoderm

    Hey guys, Here's a small osteoderm I found recently on the Zandmotor in the Netherlands. I think it's possibly an osteoderm of a sturgeon or some other type of fish, but I'm really unsure. It kinda reminds me of a tiny alligator osteoderm... Anyone have an idea what it could be? It's probably from marine sediments of the Eem Formation, from the Eemian stage of the late Pleistocene (130'000 to 115'000 years old), but could easily be from the last Ice Age (around 40'000 years old), or older than the Eemian (anywhere in the Neogene is feasible actually, the Zandmotor has quite a bit of reworked fossils). Thanks in advance! Max
  17. Hey everyone! On Wednesday, as I finally had some time, I decided to take Sara out to my favorite hunting spot: the Zandmotor (Netherlands). I definitely did not regret that decision! If you've never heard of the Zandmotor before, it's an artificial beach extension just south of The Hague, and the sand that was used was dredged from the North Sea and is full of Ice Age megafaunal mammal bones and tons of Eemian shells. If you want to see some more of my finds and hunts there, just look up "Zandmotor" in the TFF search bar and you should find a bunch of stuff When we got there it was raining, which annoyed me a little bit because the forecast said it wouldn't... The rain also makes the sand stick to the fossils which can become annoying when looking for small fossils or trying to recognize the thing you just picked up. But, having just spent an hour in the bus to get here, I didn't want to turn back immediately. Luckily the rain stopped within half an hour, and I wasn't even on the Zandmotor yet (I have to walk about an hour from the bus stop to the Zandmotor itself) and after that the weather alternated between cloudy and sunny which was nice. While I usually always take a pass by the shell banks, today I decided to only walk along the shoreline to increase the chances of finding good mammal stuff. In fact, there had been a strong eastern wind on Tuesday which helped uncover a lot of the bones and make them wash ashore. This did not go unnoticed, there were a lot indeed! Here is my first big find of the day, a great complete horse astralagus!
  18. Max-fossils

    Mammal vertebra from the ZM

    Hi all, I found this fossil vertebra near the Zandmotor (Netherlands) last weekend. It's from the last Ice Age, late Pleistocene (around 40'000 years old). There is the possibility that it is middle Pleistocene (around 600'000 years old), but that possibility is very slim. So it's (most likely) a fossil vertebra from one of the typical megafaunal Ice Age critters that roamed Europe alongside the mammoths, woolly rhino's, etc. For now, I am thinking it could be from some deer species, but I am really not sure. What are your thoughts? Thanks in advance, Max
  19. belemniten

    Mammal tooth id

    Hi guys, I found this mammal tooth a while ago at the Zandmotor near Den Haag in the Netherlands. You can find there fossils from the Quaternary period. The tooth is about 2 cm long and the crown is quite damaged. Looks a bit like a very small woolly rhino tooth but I am really not sure. Can anybody help me? Maybe @Harry Pristis or @LordTrilobite ? Here is the tooth:
  20. Hi everyone, Not last Wednesday, but the one before that one, I went to the Zandmotor again for a hunt, and it went well! As soon as I went down on the beach (I was still in the Kijkduin area, not yet on the Zandmotor), so only some 5 minutes or so into the hunt, I found this little ugly thing in the sand: It's a small (slightly incomplete) mammoth (Mammuthus primigenius) lamella! It's from the late Pleistocene, some 40'000 years ago. It's nowhere as nice as the previous one I found, but this one's cool too. Still happy to have found it because lately I've really been on a dry spell when it comes to the mammal stuff, so hopefully this is a sign that I'm gonna find some more again. After that, I continued hunting for some 4 hours or so, until the rain chased me away. The weather, although sunny at first, was really not great because there was a lot of wind. This made it a bit colder, but more annoyingly there was sand going everywhere. At some point I was checking out a little sand cliff for some shells, but had to turn my back immediately because the sand was going in my eyes. Also, the 'wich' part of my sandwich became essentially irrelevant... I did make some cool fossil shells finds though:
  21. Hi all, This weekend, after the long, boring and annoying winter months (it's always mildly cold, but very windy and rainy in the Netherlands in winter... horrible fossil hunting conditions) spring finally let out the tip of its nose, with a nice sun, blue sky and decent temperature. About time! We all know what this means... time to do some fossil-hunting! So on Sunday morning I woke up, prepared my fossil hunting equipment (mainly bags and boxes; no tools needed for this beach), made myself a lunch, and set out at 13:00 to the bus. The bus ride to Kijkduin takes me about an hour, so I arrived at the beach at 14:06. But, as usual, because it's by bus I'm not dropped off at the ideal spot, so I have to walk about an hour on the beach, due south-west, to actually get to the Zandmotor. But that wasn't much of a problem... this part of the beach already has a few fossils to yield, although not as many, so you can start the fossil hunting right away. Didn't find anything significant though in that first stretch. You're literally walking on lots of Eemian fossil shells, but these species are all very common. Spisula solida, Cerastoderma edule, C. glaucum, and Macoma balthica are just not worth picking up, unless it's a specimen that stands out to me (unusual size, pathologies, weird colors, etc). Here's a map to better illustrate the places I will mention. Note that it's approximate. Also, the sand cliffs and the shell banks often move around, we are after all on a beach with lots of wind and water movement, so these positions aren't defined. But this is what was the case this weekend. And the pink Zandmotor "limit" isn't accurate either, it's more my view as in "this is good fossil-hunting territory". By the way, that red S is where the bus drops me off. Oh, and that big puddle in the middle of the beach is actually a very popular kite-surf spot, especially for amateurs because there are no waves. This time I started off the hunt at the "sand cliffs" as I like to call them, (2m tall at the highest point, so not real cliffs), then went on to an area more to the south of the Zandmotor (at the bottom of the dark blue line on the map). It was my first time properly hunting that little area, and it turns out it's actually a good spot, I found lots of good bivalve fossils there! After an hour or two I sat down to eat my lunch (yes, a very late lunch, but time flies by when you're fossil hunting! I'm actually still surprised I remembered to eat my lunch at all, I usually get so caught up in the hunt that I often just completely forget to eat my lunch at all ), then went onto the richest part of the Zandmotor when it comes to shells, the..... (drumroll please)............. shell banks! I know, very unexpected! The real Eemian shell banks are usually lying on the north-center of the Zandmotor, between the cliffs and the shoreline. That is when I made my two favorite finds of the day: a gorgeous Propebela turricula, and a bit later, Gari fervensis! After a total of about 5 hours hunting, I decided it was time to get back home, so I called it a day. But man was it a good day! I found an incredible diversity of fossil shells, especially bivalves. Onto some pictures, starting with some location pics.
  22. Max-fossils

    Sting winkle

    From the album: @Max-fossils 's Zandmotor Finds

    A broken but still rare find of the European sting winkle, Ocenebra erinacea.
  23. Max-fossils

    Rough cockle

    This is a nice rough cockle from the Zandmotor. Quite a common species.
  24. Max-fossils

    Surf clam

    A surf clam from the Zandmotor. These are incredibly common and pretty much litter the beach. Edit: I used to think that these were Mactra plistoneerlandica, aka Mactra stultorum plistoneerlandica, but didn't realize my mistake till recently.
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