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  1. Hello These are the adventures of myself and my dog Millie as we hunt for fossils and history along the Peace River. Our mode of travel is our 12’ Indian River Canoe, Balance. Im a 4th generation Polk county native, and Millie comes from a long line of Colorado ranch dogs. We do everything together. Including work, as I am a farrier for my day job, and the farm owners are more excited to see Millie than me! The goal of this journal is to document the learning along with the adventures. To go below our sieves, and learn why the river is presenting as it is. Other members have already posted pictures and info on every fossil I’m likely to find, but the river can still teach me/us why the hole I’m digging is delivering specific materials. Understanding what happened before what happened, happened. That’s what I want to know! Millie and I have been gifted this river and the ability to run it at a moments notice. That’s not the case for everyone. Even with access I still only get out for a morning or so a week. So this journal will also provide an avenue for those who can’t just jump in the boat with us. Jump in through this forum and help out along the way when you can/want. The more we learn the better the treasure!! Jp & Mille LET THE ADVENTURE BEGIN! Season opener - Oct 2023 water depth day of - 8’ and falling. Like most things I’m impatient about, starting Fossil hunting this year was rushed. Millie and I ran head on into a river that’s a solid 3’ too high for me to handle any real working conditions. There’s places to work. We just haven’t found many at these depths! Yet!! After work arrived and we got started towards the river. Late arrival and definitely some dark water running ahead but at this water height you just gotta keep the boat in the middle. Got in late but just in time for a welcome back from the Peace! We woke up ready! Well, I did. Camp and my “Field Office” ready. Now to get wet! Because of the water depth I tied leashes to all the heavy tools and tied some extra pool noodle to them. That way I could drop them and just pull up the leader. Brought the “Velvet Touch” probe. No stopping us now! “What” I was after wasn’t an option this trip. I had only two available spots in mind that would be under 4’ deep. Both those spots are in a very recent deposit that I’ve been getting lots of Pleistocene and some Pliocene mammal material from. I ended up finding the time frame expected, and possibly an extinct sand shark nursery area. The river had sifted one spot completely away during the last flood so I was left with only one place to put in effort! At 4’ it was at my cap for height. I’m 5’6’’ and I could only dig 2 feet down before I ran out of shovel. So I had to figure something out. First I tried to fill the sieve on the River bottom and lift it up. FAIL! never got it to stay put long enough to do anything productive before I’d loose it and it would pop up down stream pulling on the leash. Next I tried to lift the gravel to the sifter on the surface. There was so much water the shovel load was gone before I broke the surface! FAIL! At a max depth of 2 feet down I wasn’t going to be learning much about the geography or layers I needed to work through. So I shifted gears and decided to focus on just the top 2’ as effectively as I could. The third try ended up succeeding. I would loosen the riverbed into a loose filled hole that had collapsed on itself and then use my scoop on a pole thing to transfer the loose material up to the surface. Not the best method but I’m grateful to have been able to stand there all day. I’d work forward 3’ and over 1’ then back again. All at 2’ or less deep or I’d go under. I suppose if I feel like moving a bunch of river bed again we could come back here and go deeper! One of my questions about this area is what is it old enough to find within it? Another trip! Here’s the gratuitous highlights shot! Not a bad day! The alligator tooth got a yell but the sand tigers and mammal teeth got me really excited. Millie and I were exhausted and COLD! I learned a few things this weekend to put in the journal. Before that. Let’s eat! Steak for me and steak for Millie. Yumm. Lessons: 1. I need appropriate clothes. Like wet suit stuff. Can’t be under water like that all day again. I got chilly and had to warm up several times. 85deg out too! What I wear is fine for knee deep wading but definitely time to upgrade the wardrobe. (I did try my new dive boots and that was the only part of me that wasn’t cold) 2. Regular shovel handles are way too short. Amend as needed to your stature. I need a 12’ handle to dig a hole in this water. So I’m out! 3. Jack, (Shellseeker) is insane!! This was my first time hunting this deep and it’s right in his sweet spot. You’re an animal! He tried to assist my tool tuning but until you run out of shovel that’s a new feeling to adjust to. 4. At two feet deep this area is where I will come for younger land aged fauna and I can expect the standard peace river sharks teeth assemblage with a higher than usual volume of sand sharks teeth. This was a great day hunting and I learned a lot. Maybe not about what my intended question was or the areas I’ve been thinking of but a ton about gear and technique! KEEP THE FAITH AND TRY TO DO GOOD!! Jp & Millie Here are the finds from this trip and some info used to figure out the unknowns. sand shark and some Hemi Serra Peace River mix fun and unique things - The mammal molar ended up being a Giant Tapir. By shape and size 3rd or 4th premolar. No root. Should have given it away. Mixed bag bottom to top of left- Gator tooth gator tooth Crappy Barbra’s incisor Canine- size 22mm broken suggest coyote or smaller domestic dog. 25mm would be the target. Tiny molar - it’s broken but by the face and measurements it’s most likely a rodent. Camel type tooth frag. Upper right - various tiger shark species to identify with Florida fossil hunters PDF middle - two deer horn buttons. One I already had but these were found 5 feet apart. Same deer?!? Bottom right- Eocene snail and crab shell fragments. Those are 37.5 Mya.?? Snail identification was general to the Ocala formation results of similar snail species.
  2. jcor246

    New Member from FL

    Hey everyone! My name is Josh. My girlfriend (totallydigsit) and I have recently gotten into hunting for fossils and decided to join the forum We are based in FL and have primarily searched along the Peace River near Zolo Springs and Arcadia (two spots we found during our initial research). We've found a variety of smaller bone fragments and shark teeth, but hoping to score the bigger pieces! Looking forward to sharing our findings and getting to know the community! - Josh
  3. I wanted to take a few moments to share with you, all of the fun my family and I had in Florida this past week. We spent some time in Key Largo, the Everglades and Orlando. My favorite time was spent in Key Largo as it was our first time there and we had an excellent experience down there. Our hotel was located next to a marina which happened to be filled with a variety of wildlife. Most of you know that I am fascinated with sharks. The marina was full of nurse sharks. Every now and then you would see them swimming near the surface. We found out that when the fishing boats came in, they would clean the fish at stations other docks. All the scraps would go into the water. Sharks, barracuda, pelicans and other critters would then feast on the chum. We even saw a mother manatee and her baby. Our first full day there we took a guided snorkeling tour. The boat took around 50 people about 7 miles offshore to a coral reef. We were delighted to see many different fish species. One of my favorite ones were the parrot fish. The color combinations were beautiful. We also swam with many Barracuda, some which were between 5-6 feet long. These were rather intimidating. The absolute highlight came just before I was ready to get out. The tour was for an hour and it was getting close to being over. I was exhausted from fighting the current and my mask was pushing into my forehead and hurting. I told my wife I was done and was going back to the boat. As soon as I got the words out of my mouth my youngest Son yelled" Dad there's a shark!" Immediately the pain and tiredness disappeared and adrenaline kicked in. I asked him where it was and he said that it was right under him. I put my head under water and saw a nurse shark swimming below him. I started swimming towards it and maneuvered myself about 6 feet above it. I swam above the shark for a minute or two until it began to get to far ahead of me. I was ecstatic to be able to swim with this magnificent creature. To swim with a shark has been on my bucket list for a very long time. It was a great experience. We only spent a couple days in Key Largo. On the way there and after we left we made stops at the Everglades there we took an airboat ride as well as walked the trails at a couple of the parks. We got up close to some gators that were laying close to the trails. At one point we saw a mother gator with a baby lying on mom's tail. The rest of the time was spent in Orlando. We went to Disney Springs one day and Epcott another. Some time was also spent with my in-laws. We had such a good time we didn't want to come back home. Anyways I got some pics to share. Hope you enjoy! Dave
  4. Shellseeker

    Bone Valley Creek

    Out hunting yesterday. Sun Shining, pretty warm and I could find deep water... A lot of small colorful shark teeth and other marine fossils but I was missing most fossils from land based fauna until the very end of the hunt. So, Hemi, Tiger, Lemon, Bull, Dusky, most with light roots and blue or cream colored blades. Add in sea urchin spines, Stingray teeth and Barb frags, Sawfish rostral frags. The 3 Megs... One early. I like the color , and the almost perfectly consistent serrations.. Even broken at 39 mm , a nice find Another Meg 44 mm late. Complete, good serrations, a little feeding damage on the tip. I took the photo on my screened porch.. Not an unpleasant effect. Also little cusp, An Atavism... This from @siteseer in an old thread. .... Having lateral cusplets remained in the genes of the species millions of years after it was basic tooth character. Occasionally, the gene for cusplets, which had been "switched off" would switch on randomly and an individual would have teeth with cusplets. You wouldn't call it a pathology but just a rare expression of an ancestral trait. A very good 36 mm Bulla, that I'll try to identify.. I found a Bulla identified as Beluga whale at this location last year. Two fossil fragments showed up in the last sieve.. The 1st one at 27 mm, I think is a mammal ear bone because I have found similar at other sites. I am a little mystified by Nerve/Blood vessel canal on the bottom photo. and then this 34 mm enamel fragment of a mammal tooth... Similar to Mastodon or Gomphothere, but the best match might be Rhino. I have never found any Rhino fossil here and it would imply late Miocene (8-10 mya). That would be exciting. Enjoy...
  5. Ella K

    Please help ID small fossil

    Found this little guy on a beach in southwest Florida. Grabbed it because I thought it looked interesting. Any ideas on what this could be? Thank you!
  6. Othniel C. Marsh

    Florida Mammal Teeth

    Below are two Pleistocene mammal teeth from "river gravels" in Florida. I have to further information on their age or locality, unfortunately. The left was merely identified as a "mammal tooth", and I strongly suspect it is from Trichechus manatus, but I have very little experience with mammal dentition and as such thought it would be best to check with someone with greater expertise in the field first. The right tooth was identified as a "peccary tooth", but given the fact that a number of tayassuids were present in Pleistocene Florida I wondered if the tooth could be identified to a genus, or better yet a species level. I will now take the liberty of "@ing in" a few people: @Harry Pristis and @Shellseeker Thanks in advance for any proposed ID's Othniel
  7. Fossil finder 100

    Florida shark teeth ID

    Dear fellow TFF members, The following two teeth are fairly strange to me. Im afraid Florida is as specific as I can get with the locality of the two. Could the first tooth be a snaggle??? Thank you for your time and expertise.
  8. Michael1

    Peace river fossil IDS

    Found these two fossils while hunting the peace river wondering if anyone could ID them? If anyone needs additional photos please ask.
  9. Shellseeker

    Mostly Bones

    I was out hunting yesterday on the Peace River. I returned to a spot I had hunted last Thursday, Feb 28th, It rained over the weekend. Many /most locations were too deep to dig. I LIKE deep water because it is aerobic exercise for my lower back but I prefer not to be holding my breadth as I did. I did not find a large volume of fossils, many were bones, especially Dugong ribs which I tossed back. Small Shark teeth, Turtle Osteoderms, an Alligator Osteoderms, Deer tine, Broken Equus tooth, One question is that Bovid tooth... It is really nice... I would certainly like it to be Bison.. I like this Medial Phalanx... I do not think it is Horse, Might be Tapir... It is definitely small I found a Carpal that is smaller than I am used to finding for Camelids. I may indeed check the Tapir carpals. Same thing with this Ear Bone, too small to be Equus but similar to Equus . Both Horse and Tapir are Perissodactyla. I have never identified a Tapir ear bone. Then there were more unusual bones... unusual in the sense that I have no clue.. This bone has articular facets...like a carpal or tarpal, but the following 2 Photos of the same bone does not look like any carpal I have seen.. Time for me to do a lot of looking All assistance and suggestions gratefully appreciated... Jack
  10. Shellseeker

    Sanibel Shell Show

    There are frequently events to help tourists spend money. The Shell Show certainly qualifies. I went this morning. Here are some of the displays that I enjoyed.. Some from Sanibel, Key West, Bahamas, Morocco, Senegal.... This sheller has been traveling... A close_up Sanibel and Fort Myers Beach took a direct hit mid_afternoon from Hurricane Ian. It destroyed 98% of mangroves (Black, White, Red) in the vicinity. So far, only the Red mangroves are starting to recover near the Marriott. I used to collect modern shells, now more of fossil shells and I do not buy shells anymore....
  11. BrittanyM

    Identification help please

    Found in Venice Fl at caspersen beach, any help on identification will be amazing.
  12. While the Megalodon tooth seems to exist as THE find for many fossil hunters and/or amateur marine paleontologists alike (and rightly so!) it's never been my own personal "holy grail." However. My partner, who graciously tags along and searches with me whenever I drag him out on hunts often hours (or even days) of driving away, is absolutely enamored by the idea of finding one of these guys. I've heard many good things about Ernst Quarries/Sharktooth Hill and the private land surrounding it in Kern County, but I've also heard incredible things about Florida creek hunting - mostly Peace River and some, unfortunately, Top-Secret spots. We luckily have the opportunity right now to go on one (or both if we play our (credit) cards right) of these trips and was hoping those more experienced in the culture of "Meg Madness" would be able to provide any advice, pointers, opinions, comments, concerns, etc.?
  13. Hello. I am a beginner fossil hunter and collector. About an hour ago, I went to the bookstore near my country property and bought two teeth. One I believe I have identified as a Tiger shark tooth, coming from Bone Valley (Polk County, Florida). However the second is more mysterious. It appears to be a small baby megalodon tooth without a bourlette. It measures 1.9 cm (0.75 inches). It also appears to have potentially lost part of its root. It appears vaguely similar in shape to my Megalodon tooth. If someone can potentially identify it, that would be great!
  14. JamieLynn

    A Fossil A Day.....

    A Fossil A Day....keeps the blues away! Or something like that... I started an Instragram account (jamielynnfossilquest) and am posting a fossil a day, so I figured I should do that on here, to REAL fossil enthusiasts! I'm a few days behind, so I will start out with a few more than one a day but then it will settle down to One Fossil (but I will admit, I'll probably miss a few days, but I'll double up or whatever.) I'll start with Texas Pennsylvanian era, but will branch out to other locations and time periods, so expect a little of everything! So enjoy A Fossil A Day! Texas Pennsylvanian Fossils: Nautiloid Agathiceras ciscoense Brachiopod Neochonetes acanthophorus Trilobite Ditomopyge sp. Gastropod Straparollus sp. Bivalve Astartella vera Cephalopod Brachycycloceras sp, Brachiopod Cleiothyridina orbicularis
  15. Shellseeker

    Haile Quarry, March 3rd

    I added a couple of threads on Activities connected with FPS field trip to Hallie Quarries in the vicinity of Newberry, Florida. I have some photos of the Quarry to provide a sense of what it was like and some additional finds. The Quarry I visited is just one of many at this location. and the one I was in... huge. A wall in the distance, heavy movers to stay far away from, a "tiny" FPS member searching the low wall ahead. I am walking around this mountain of rock on my left , searching for fossils that may have fallen down the cliff face. I am very careful the few times I attempt to climb the cliff face reaching for a fossil just a little too far away... There can be great rewards... Gorgeous, and and there are lots of potential shell, and echinoids in this semi hard rock, I have a rock hammer and trowel. Can I possible get this out in one piece.. I have already broken others or found that they were already broken before my arrival. So I decided not, and just walked on with a photo and a memory. As I continued around the mountain, I came to this site , took a step forward, and quickly stepped back . A sinkhole about 4 feet across, and with a single glance inside I saw it was at least 25 feet deep. This one is not particularly large. The Quarry has lost a number of large earth movers in sinkholes. This is where I recall signing the waiver stating that I am totally responsible for any of the various dumb things I might do while hunting for fossils and hold the Quarry owners blameless for any/all damages to my body. Roger Portell was our guide and Advisor and we moved a couple of times to locations that might provide different fossils. The last stop was supposed to contained marine (shark teeth) and mammal fossils. As we stepped out of our vehicles, Roger showed us another sinkhole, advised us to be careful , and described recoveries of mammal bones and teeth from this area decades past. I was fortunate to find one of those teeth, described in this TFF thread. https://www.thefossilforum.com/topic/139986-love-the-surprises/#comment-1479029 It was laying on the ground 5 feet to the left of this sinkhole. Sometimes I am just blessed in the right place at the right time. Here are some other finds of the day, with what ever I currently know about them... 1) M. americanum , a Sea Biscuit, approximately 4 inches in width, encased in matrix. 2) What I refer to as Jingle shells, and a small Echinoid...On the Echinoid, I have to wash, brush , scrap off some of that concrete like matrix to figure out what it is.... 3) A couple of Oysters... there few shells free floating from the concrete like matrix like these. 4) More shells, this time in Matrix 5) Did I mention Endocasts ? All over the place.... Sometimes hard to differentiate from shells. 5a) This one reminds me of a cowrie.... but not like any modern or even fossil ones that I have seen... I had previously found exactly like this one in a bone valley creek.. Would like to Identify.. Hope you enjoyed the trip. Comments always appreciated.
  16. It’s her biggest one and we always wondered what it is. But now I’m starting to get more into fossils
  17. I’m trying to get better at identification so I labeled the pieces with what I think they are but some I can’t figure out. I would love some guidance if anyone has any input! Thanks Fernandina Beach Amelia Island Florida USA
  18. Michael1

    Florida porpoise teeth ID

    These are some dophin like teeth ive found and just wondering if anyone of them was something different like a bear or something completely different? All of these teeth except one were found in florida. Most of them in the peace river one of them in gainesville and the other in georgia. The second to last photo was the one from gainesville and the last photo is the one from georgia.
  19. Shellseeker

    Love the Surprises

    I participated in the Spring meeting of the Florida Paleontological Society this week end.. Saturday I was up at 5 am to drive to Gainesville and see some old friends including @digit. We had presentations from Paleontology students on their field projects and the treat of visiting the Paleontology research lab collections (Vert, Invert, Plants) under the guidance of UF experts. Dinner, discussion, and an auction in the evening . Saturday was jammed full. I have taken a set of photos which I'll share in another thread.. hopefully tomorrow. This is about Sunday. A field trip to Haile Quarry in Newberry, Fl. We are allowed in the Quarry for three hours and time flies when I am hunting fossils.. We moved twice looking in three sites.. I found many seashells and a few echinoids, including a gigantic one where I can not recall the name. I will likely get to a thread on my other finds Wednesday (Hunting again Tuesday). In this case, I wanted to show my prize and ask for Identification help before going to sleep. At the last site was a Sink hole, which had been partially excavated by a team of UF graduate students some decades ago, They found all sorts of bones, skeletons, teeth , Miocene aged. and I only had twenty five minutes before we left.. It was not sufficient to find a lot of quantity. but 10 minutes in, I found this Rhino upper Molar just laying on the ground. I had to pinch myself. I was NOT expecting Rhino. Note that Hunter_Schreger Bands are visible in the enamel, just as we would expect. So the 1st question is : Florida had 3-4 Rhino species. 1) Florida Rhino (Aphelops mutilus) From Alachua Co., Florida Lived ~8 million years ago 2) Panama Rhino (Floridaceras whitei) Adult (cast) and Juvenile From the Republic of Panama, Central America 3) Teleoceras proterum Lived ~10 million years ago 4) Menoceras ("Crescent Horns"[4]) is a genus of extinct, small rhinocerotids endemic to most of southern North America and ranged as far south as Panama during the early Miocene epoch. It lived from around 30.7—19.7 Ma, existing for approximately 11 million years. For the time being, I am thinking Teleoceras proterum, the one I know best. Here is an upper jaw of Teleoceras proterum. Teleoceras fossils have been found inside the Haile quarry. I have started at this photo above. It is not a perfect match, but I am thinking an upper left P3... Comments/Suggestions appreciated. Jack
  20. ClearLake

    Pleistocene Rock Marine Imprint

    On a recent visit to Key West, Florida I found this imprint in a rock along the shore. This was a piece of rip rap, so its original location is unknown but I believe most of the fill and rubble in the area was sourced fairly locally (South Florida). The bedrock at this location is the Pleistocene aged Miami Limestone, which is from the Wisconsinan to Sangamonian stages (<700,000 years) but even in all of southernmost Florida (say Miami and south) the oldest you get is Pliocene. So, while I don't know the exact age, I'm pretty confidant it is fairly young. The imprint is about 5cm wide by 9 cm long. Hard to tell in the picture perhaps, but it is probably 3-4 cm deep. In the picture on the left, you see the whole rock, including the other bivalve casts etc in there. Looks pretty typical for what I saw in the limestones of that area. The picture on the right is the impression enlarged. I did not bring it home with me, so this is the best I can do with pictures. My first impression was it looked like the impression of an ammonite septal wall, but of course it is much to young for that. Only other thing I can think of is the impression of the top of some type of coral, maybe a brain coral, but I'm struggling to visualize it as it looks too symmetrical for that. The detail is pretty neat. Anyone recognize this? @digit @hemipristis @Harry Pristis
  21. Shellseeker

    Carpals

    Was out hunting yesterday, previous post https://www.thefossilforum.com/topic/139901-interesting-finds-peace-river-02282024/ I did not have time last night to go thru everything , and I found 2 Carpals, one known and other needs identification... The known is a camelid (Palaeolama or Hemiauchenia) Carpal , specifically a Scaphoid.. I know because I have found this carpal previously. In the very next sieve , another carpal, but this one I did not recognize. To some extant, it resembles an Equus Magnum, but definitely is not.... It is very high quality, much better than the Scaphoid, but I have checked with camelid Magnum and it seems very different... So with that, here is a Carpal from the Peace River for Identification. This is usually a sweet spot for @Harry Pristis
  22. Hello. This came out of Florida. I believe it is a mammoth or mastodon scapula. Could it be pelvis bone? Your thoughts? Thank you
  23. Hello - Is this a whale rib bone? Maybe a Dugong rib bone? Came out of Florida near Venice. Thank you.
  24. citronkitten

    Peace River: types of turtle shell IDs

    Greetings, I am working on my next display and am trying to sort through the various pieces of turtle shell. I have attempted to divide and label them as much as I can, using references I will post. This is my first attempt at turtle shell and have relied entirely on examples and available resources, so any correction/confirmation/explanation would be most appreciated. On my paper (in case it's unreadable - tendonitis flaring up so handwriting quality going down), the upper half of the page is carapace, the lower half is plastron, the left half is softshell and the right half is hard shell. I included a composite image which has better focus on each quadrant (terrible lighting today), and a larger image on which I wrote my attempts at further identification. References: This whole thread: This image (location directly on image): This image was very helpful: And these hand-drawn diagrams I found to be most accessible:
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