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  1. Hello These are the adventures of myself and my dog Millie as we hunt for fossils and history along the Peace River. Our mode of travel is our 12’ Indian River Canoe, Balance. Im a 4th generation Polk county native, and Millie comes from a long line of Colorado ranch dogs. We do everything together. Including work, as I am a farrier for my day job, and the farm owners are more excited to see Millie than me! The goal of this journal is to document the learning along with the adventures. To go below our sieves, and learn why the river is presenting as it is. Other members have already posted pictures and info on every fossil I’m likely to find, but the river can still teach me/us why the hole I’m digging is delivering specific materials. Understanding what happened before what happened, happened. That’s what I want to know! Millie and I have been gifted this river and the ability to run it at a moments notice. That’s not the case for everyone. Even with access I still only get out for a morning or so a week. So this journal will also provide an avenue for those who can’t just jump in the boat with us. Jump in through this forum and help out along the way when you can/want. The more we learn the better the treasure!! Jp & Mille LET THE ADVENTURE BEGIN! Season opener - Oct 2023 water depth day of - 8’ and falling. Like most things I’m impatient about, starting Fossil hunting this year was rushed. Millie and I ran head on into a river that’s a solid 3’ too high for me to handle any real working conditions. There’s places to work. We just haven’t found many at these depths! Yet!! After work arrived and we got started towards the river. Late arrival and definitely some dark water running ahead but at this water height you just gotta keep the boat in the middle. Got in late but just in time for a welcome back from the Peace! We woke up ready! Well, I did. Camp and my “Field Office” ready. Now to get wet! Because of the water depth I tied leashes to all the heavy tools and tied some extra pool noodle to them. That way I could drop them and just pull up the leader. Brought the “Velvet Touch” probe. No stopping us now! “What” I was after wasn’t an option this trip. I had only two available spots in mind that would be under 4’ deep. Both those spots are in a very recent deposit that I’ve been getting lots of Pleistocene and some Pliocene mammal material from. I ended up finding the time frame expected, and possibly an extinct sand shark nursery area. The river had sifted one spot completely away during the last flood so I was left with only one place to put in effort! At 4’ it was at my cap for height. I’m 5’6’’ and I could only dig 2 feet down before I ran out of shovel. So I had to figure something out. First I tried to fill the sieve on the River bottom and lift it up. FAIL! never got it to stay put long enough to do anything productive before I’d loose it and it would pop up down stream pulling on the leash. Next I tried to lift the gravel to the sifter on the surface. There was so much water the shovel load was gone before I broke the surface! FAIL! At a max depth of 2 feet down I wasn’t going to be learning much about the geography or layers I needed to work through. So I shifted gears and decided to focus on just the top 2’ as effectively as I could. The third try ended up succeeding. I would loosen the riverbed into a loose filled hole that had collapsed on itself and then use my scoop on a pole thing to transfer the loose material up to the surface. Not the best method but I’m grateful to have been able to stand there all day. I’d work forward 3’ and over 1’ then back again. All at 2’ or less deep or I’d go under. I suppose if I feel like moving a bunch of river bed again we could come back here and go deeper! One of my questions about this area is what is it old enough to find within it? Another trip! Here’s the gratuitous highlights shot! Not a bad day! The alligator tooth got a yell but the sand tigers and mammal teeth got me really excited. Millie and I were exhausted and COLD! I learned a few things this weekend to put in the journal. Before that. Let’s eat! Steak for me and steak for Millie. Yumm. Lessons: 1. I need appropriate clothes. Like wet suit stuff. Can’t be under water like that all day again. I got chilly and had to warm up several times. 85deg out too! What I wear is fine for knee deep wading but definitely time to upgrade the wardrobe. (I did try my new dive boots and that was the only part of me that wasn’t cold) 2. Regular shovel handles are way too short. Amend as needed to your stature. I need a 12’ handle to dig a hole in this water. So I’m out! 3. Jack, (Shellseeker) is insane!! This was my first time hunting this deep and it’s right in his sweet spot. You’re an animal! He tried to assist my tool tuning but until you run out of shovel that’s a new feeling to adjust to. 4. At two feet deep this area is where I will come for younger land aged fauna and I can expect the standard peace river sharks teeth assemblage with a higher than usual volume of sand sharks teeth. This was a great day hunting and I learned a lot. Maybe not about what my intended question was or the areas I’ve been thinking of but a ton about gear and technique! KEEP THE FAITH AND TRY TO DO GOOD!! Jp & Millie Here are the finds from this trip and some info used to figure out the unknowns. sand shark and some Hemi Serra Peace River mix fun and unique things - The mammal molar ended up being a Giant Tapir. By shape and size 3rd or 4th premolar. No root. Should have given it away. Mixed bag bottom to top of left- Gator tooth gator tooth Crappy Barbra’s incisor Canine- size 22mm broken suggest coyote or smaller domestic dog. 25mm would be the target. Tiny molar - it’s broken but by the face and measurements it’s most likely a rodent. Camel type tooth frag. Upper right - various tiger shark species to identify with Florida fossil hunters PDF middle - two deer horn buttons. One I already had but these were found 5 feet apart. Same deer?!? Bottom right- Eocene snail and crab shell fragments. Those are 37.5 Mya.?? Snail identification was general to the Ocala formation results of similar snail species.
  2. Hey, been a while, so i decided to start a new topic for the new year. Headed out on Thursday 25/01 to the river shores in Antwerp again. First hunt of the year since i've worked non-stop so far and a contractor is rebuilding our house.. It was great being out again so i was already pleased on beforehand, finding some nice teeth made it even better 😁 here's some in situ pics.. Rolled C. hastalis C. hastalis in excellent shape my first Parotodus benedeni ever, not in great shape but an awesome find anyway 😀 Finally a complete 6cm C. hastalis VID20240125131132.mp4 And some random mammal teeth Had a great first hunt of the year, and I already feel like going back! oh yeah, here's the whole lot cleaned up.. Surprised about how many different species i got covered this time 😄 Grtz, Dries
  3. historianmichael

    Calvert Fm (Miocene) Bone

    I collected this bone earlier this week in an outcrop of the Calvert Formation (Early-Middle Miocene) in Maryland. I found several vertebrae in close proximity to each other that I have tentatively identified as dolphin. I will share them after I finish cleaning and prepping them. Next to one vertebra was this mystery bone. Any idea what it could be? Maybe part of the dolphin sternum? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
  4. Largemouth Bass

    Stratford Hall mystery bone

    Found in a block of matrix on the western side of Stratford Hall during a NHSM trip. Length is about 0.75 inches (1.9 cm). Order of photos: Front, side, backside, top-down, underside.
  5. 1 more from the same location, a vertebra. Photos 1 & 2 are the front and back, while 3 & 4 show top and bottom. One end appears flat, while the other is crudely pointed. Axis vert? I was thinking small mammal. Thoughts? thanks!
  6. hello, I have 2 items from Chesapeake Beach, Maryland, USA. Exposures are Miocene. These were found as float, on the beach. The first is a jaw section, approx. 8cm in length, with a broken piece of one tooth present. Porpoise? The second is a tooth crown, approx 18x13 mm and two ridges. Photos of the chewing surface and underside are presented. Manatee? thanks!
  7. Has this Libellula doris larva, from the Tortonian of Italy been painted on, heavily restored, or is it unrestored? Thanks in advance for any guidance Othniel
  8. I finally finished out sorting my GMR matrix and I have a few small shark teeth and the like that I’m interested in! 1) 2) 3) 4) Reptile hopefully? 5) hybodont? 6) 7) 8) 9) 10) 11) I shared this with Dr. Shimada, who thinks its Cantioscyllium or Plicatoscyllium? 12) 13) Ray crusher plate? 14) Catshark? 15) 16) 17) 18) 19) 20)
  9. dries85

    Concretion with Fossil inside

    I found this concretion with something inside, looks like half of a nodule with something bone alike. Found it while sifting for Miocene shark teeth in a clay quarry in the Antwerp region in Belgium. I think the gravel i'm sifting is Pleistocene with reworked Miocene as i've found pieces of Mammoth bark in it as well. This piece leaves me clueless tho.. The concretion measures 9cm x 5cm sorry about the poor quality pics, that's the best i can get out of my smartphone... Thx!
  10. Recently found this quite large and heavy (piece of) bone by the Schelde river shores in Antwerp, Belgium. Most pieces that wash up here are Mio/Pliocene but actually most Neogene layers are represented in the area as well as Pleistocene and more recent. I'm thinking whale because of the size, but honestly i don't have a clue. Measurements are 22cm x 10cm x 5cm thanks in advance! Dries
  11. Shellseeker

    Love the Surprises

    I participated in the Spring meeting of the Florida Paleontological Society this week end.. Saturday I was up at 5 am to drive to Gainesville and see some old friends including @digit. We had presentations from Paleontology students on their field projects and the treat of visiting the Paleontology research lab collections (Vert, Invert, Plants) under the guidance of UF experts. Dinner, discussion, and an auction in the evening . Saturday was jammed full. I have taken a set of photos which I'll share in another thread.. hopefully tomorrow. This is about Sunday. A field trip to Haile Quarry in Newberry, Fl. We are allowed in the Quarry for three hours and time flies when I am hunting fossils.. We moved twice looking in three sites.. I found many seashells and a few echinoids, including a gigantic one where I can not recall the name. I will likely get to a thread on my other finds Wednesday (Hunting again Tuesday). In this case, I wanted to show my prize and ask for Identification help before going to sleep. At the last site was a Sink hole, which had been partially excavated by a team of UF graduate students some decades ago, They found all sorts of bones, skeletons, teeth , Miocene aged. and I only had twenty five minutes before we left.. It was not sufficient to find a lot of quantity. but 10 minutes in, I found this Rhino upper Molar just laying on the ground. I had to pinch myself. I was NOT expecting Rhino. Note that Hunter_Schreger Bands are visible in the enamel, just as we would expect. So the 1st question is : Florida had 3-4 Rhino species. 1) Florida Rhino (Aphelops mutilus) From Alachua Co., Florida Lived ~8 million years ago 2) Panama Rhino (Floridaceras whitei) Adult (cast) and Juvenile From the Republic of Panama, Central America 3) Teleoceras proterum Lived ~10 million years ago 4) Menoceras ("Crescent Horns"[4]) is a genus of extinct, small rhinocerotids endemic to most of southern North America and ranged as far south as Panama during the early Miocene epoch. It lived from around 30.7—19.7 Ma, existing for approximately 11 million years. For the time being, I am thinking Teleoceras proterum, the one I know best. Here is an upper jaw of Teleoceras proterum. Teleoceras fossils have been found inside the Haile quarry. I have started at this photo above. It is not a perfect match, but I am thinking an upper left P3... Comments/Suggestions appreciated. Jack
  12. Steve D.

    Tooth Identification Assistance

    Hey all, Looking for input from all the wonderful people I've called upon in the past! I found this tooth in 2022 sifting at GMR. Upon first glance I thought it to be a small dolphin tooth but after digging it out of my collection recently I put it under a higher power magnifier and actually looked at it with attention. I'm starting to believe this maybe a mammal tooth or canine specifically. I've been to GMR many times and have found a distal bone of a mammoth and a hoof bone of an ancient peccary which was identified by the curator of prehistoric animals at the Indianapolis State Museum. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated so I can try to file and put away for safe keeping! Thanks all! Steve
  13. rocket

    crab prep

    seen some minutes ago in the www great job! Video | Facebook
  14. From the album: Fossils

    Two Notorynchus symphyseal teeth from the Miocene Calvert Formation in central Virginia. Both have a funky center tooth and are about .65 inches wide.
  15. Crazy Squirrel

    Croc Jaw?

    Hello, found this at Calvert Cliff about 6” long. Is this a croc jaw? If so, upper or lower? Thanks
  16. deltav2

    Conus

    From the album: Miocene fossils from Qatar

    A calcite replaced miocene conus fossil I found. The rock itself was collected early last year but I cracked it open to look for echinoids. The calcite is paper thin and very fragile, and the inside of it is also filled with numerous crystals. Dam formation Abu samra member
  17. wowo

    ? Miocene mammal tooth

    Hello Everyone, we are looking for help in identifying a fossilized tooth that was found in deposits dated back to the miocen-badenian age in Poland, Europe. That site is knows from Gigantopecten mussels fossils and Carcharias, Galeocerdo, Diplodus fish teeth but such tooth has never been found there before. Thank you for any identification ideas.
  18. One beach hunt and two digs yielded four cow shark and a bunch of small teeth, some of which may have been in my last photo. The cow shark, my focus, are all new but frustrating; cannot say for sure if two really have non-serrated first points. Possibly broken? Too much cold water in the creek to hunt for a few more days.
  19. shark57

    Virginia Miocene Megalodon

    From the album: Fossils

    This 4.5 inch meg was found at a land site in central Virginia along the contact of the Eastover and Calvert Formations. The colors make me think it is likely an Eastover tooth.
  20. Shellseeker

    Symphyseal

    Picked this up yesterday. It is easy to get excited on a small package. Looks like G. aduncus symphyseal but is much wider than the ones I see on a google search.
  21. Spent about 2 hours surface collecting this morning, tides were not favorable but was still able to find some decent teeth including what I believe is either a partial dolphin or porpoise tooth. I thought that I had found a partial benedini, however it appears that it may just be a large partial curved mako tooth.
  22. These are very common at an exposure of what I believe to be the Monterey formation (Miocene) in Santa Barbara county, California. They look quite different from most pectinid fossils I've seen in southern CA. Any ideas on ID, or references I should take a look at for this area? Thanks!
  23. oilshale

    Spider non det.

    From the album: Invertebrates

    Spider non det. Late Miocene Diatomaceous earth St. Bauzile Montagne d'Andance Ardèche France
  24. Got a surprise day off work on Tuesday so I decided to hit the cliffs to make the most of the day off. I got to the ramp around 10am to launch my kayak and headed to a beach I hadn’t been to in a little while. The trip started slow but I found a couple nice Hemipristis teeth to start getting my hopes up. I want finding to much in the wash and the water was to murky to find anything deep so I spent some time looking through debris around some fresh falls. Lo and behold a beautiful 1.75” Thecachampsa tooth is sitting right on top of one of the falls. It dried with some strange white staining that I wasn’t able to clean off, but none the less it’s still a great tooth. Continuing on I find a heartbreaking 2.3” megalodon that was broken almost in half (at least I got the larger half). Finishing up I got a few more nice Hemis and a handful of other nice smaller teeth. All in all in was a good day along the cliffs and it sure beat working. Thanks for reading, see y’all next time.
  25. Recently, I found some mammal fossils right next to a river. The bones were buried in clay but the water had removed some sediment so they were visible although they were broken in tens of pieces. Later, I cleaned the soft clay from the bones and placed the small pieces together using normal glue because I have found out that its results are nearly as good as fossil glue or at least it doesn't have visible differences. Although the bones are almost complete, there is still a lot hardened red clay that doesn't go away with water or brushes. What should I use to clean the fossils completely without damaging them? (with household items if it's possible) Here's a photo of my 2 favourite ones.
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