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This is going out on a tangent but...Gardner is such a dump! It really ticks me off. I've been thinking about trying to round some people up for a general clean-up of a stretch of the Peace. Judging by quite a few of the people I've seen there, I wonder if it would be worth it. I know that it would , but I also know that Gardner would be back to normal the following week. Frustrating. If anyone else feels the same way and would like to try and start planning this...please let me know. I just realized that this should be a separate thread. Note to self... So...This started on a separate post and thread. I know that most, if not all of us, pick up trash and haul it back to our entry point at the end of the day. I also know that we all probably see more stuff that for one reason or another is inconvenient for us to pick up at the time. Well, what if that was all that we did for one day? What if we gathered in force and sent a crew by kayak/canoe down to Brownville Park from Gardner? Or another crew from Zolfo Springs down to Gardner...or (the worst), Brownville Park to SR70 ramp? That's a lot of people. Realistically, it would need to be split up into separate days unless we had sponsor help. I already feel like I'm in over my head. I know that it would take an entire platoon and an entire day to clean up the Gardner ramp area. It certainly seems like it would anyway. So, it's out there. I'm serious about doing this one way or another. But we all know that it's going to take more than just individuals picking up as they go. Clearly, a lot of people aren't pulling their weight. And a lot more just don't care. My name is Mike. We can use this thread to start getting together and take it from there.