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  1. Hello These are the adventures of myself and my dog Millie as we hunt for fossils and history along the Peace River. Our mode of travel is our 12’ Indian River Canoe, Balance. Im a 4th generation Polk county native, and Millie comes from a long line of Colorado ranch dogs. We do everything together. Including work, as I am a farrier for my day job, and the farm owners are more excited to see Millie than me! The goal of this journal is to document the learning along with the adventures. To go below our sieves, and learn why the river is presenting as it is. Other members have already posted pictures and info on every fossil I’m likely to find, but the river can still teach me/us why the hole I’m digging is delivering specific materials. Understanding what happened before what happened, happened. That’s what I want to know! Millie and I have been gifted this river and the ability to run it at a moments notice. That’s not the case for everyone. Even with access I still only get out for a morning or so a week. So this journal will also provide an avenue for those who can’t just jump in the boat with us. Jump in through this forum and help out along the way when you can/want. The more we learn the better the treasure!! Jp & Mille LET THE ADVENTURE BEGIN! Season opener - Oct 2023 water depth day of - 8’ and falling. Like most things I’m impatient about, starting Fossil hunting this year was rushed. Millie and I ran head on into a river that’s a solid 3’ too high for me to handle any real working conditions. There’s places to work. We just haven’t found many at these depths! Yet!! After work arrived and we got started towards the river. Late arrival and definitely some dark water running ahead but at this water height you just gotta keep the boat in the middle. Got in late but just in time for a welcome back from the Peace! We woke up ready! Well, I did. Camp and my “Field Office” ready. Now to get wet! Because of the water depth I tied leashes to all the heavy tools and tied some extra pool noodle to them. That way I could drop them and just pull up the leader. Brought the “Velvet Touch” probe. No stopping us now! “What” I was after wasn’t an option this trip. I had only two available spots in mind that would be under 4’ deep. Both those spots are in a very recent deposit that I’ve been getting lots of Pleistocene and some Pliocene mammal material from. I ended up finding the time frame expected, and possibly an extinct sand shark nursery area. The river had sifted one spot completely away during the last flood so I was left with only one place to put in effort! At 4’ it was at my cap for height. I’m 5’6’’ and I could only dig 2 feet down before I ran out of shovel. So I had to figure something out. First I tried to fill the sieve on the River bottom and lift it up. FAIL! never got it to stay put long enough to do anything productive before I’d loose it and it would pop up down stream pulling on the leash. Next I tried to lift the gravel to the sifter on the surface. There was so much water the shovel load was gone before I broke the surface! FAIL! At a max depth of 2 feet down I wasn’t going to be learning much about the geography or layers I needed to work through. So I shifted gears and decided to focus on just the top 2’ as effectively as I could. The third try ended up succeeding. I would loosen the riverbed into a loose filled hole that had collapsed on itself and then use my scoop on a pole thing to transfer the loose material up to the surface. Not the best method but I’m grateful to have been able to stand there all day. I’d work forward 3’ and over 1’ then back again. All at 2’ or less deep or I’d go under. I suppose if I feel like moving a bunch of river bed again we could come back here and go deeper! One of my questions about this area is what is it old enough to find within it? Another trip! Here’s the gratuitous highlights shot! Not a bad day! The alligator tooth got a yell but the sand tigers and mammal teeth got me really excited. Millie and I were exhausted and COLD! I learned a few things this weekend to put in the journal. Before that. Let’s eat! Steak for me and steak for Millie. Yumm. Lessons: 1. I need appropriate clothes. Like wet suit stuff. Can’t be under water like that all day again. I got chilly and had to warm up several times. 85deg out too! What I wear is fine for knee deep wading but definitely time to upgrade the wardrobe. (I did try my new dive boots and that was the only part of me that wasn’t cold) 2. Regular shovel handles are way too short. Amend as needed to your stature. I need a 12’ handle to dig a hole in this water. So I’m out! 3. Jack, (Shellseeker) is insane!! This was my first time hunting this deep and it’s right in his sweet spot. You’re an animal! He tried to assist my tool tuning but until you run out of shovel that’s a new feeling to adjust to. 4. At two feet deep this area is where I will come for younger land aged fauna and I can expect the standard peace river sharks teeth assemblage with a higher than usual volume of sand sharks teeth. This was a great day hunting and I learned a lot. Maybe not about what my intended question was or the areas I’ve been thinking of but a ton about gear and technique! KEEP THE FAITH AND TRY TO DO GOOD!! Jp & Millie Here are the finds from this trip and some info used to figure out the unknowns. sand shark and some Hemi Serra Peace River mix fun and unique things - The mammal molar ended up being a Giant Tapir. By shape and size 3rd or 4th premolar. No root. Should have given it away. Mixed bag bottom to top of left- Gator tooth gator tooth Crappy Barbra’s incisor Canine- size 22mm broken suggest coyote or smaller domestic dog. 25mm would be the target. Tiny molar - it’s broken but by the face and measurements it’s most likely a rodent. Camel type tooth frag. Upper right - various tiger shark species to identify with Florida fossil hunters PDF middle - two deer horn buttons. One I already had but these were found 5 feet apart. Same deer?!? Bottom right- Eocene snail and crab shell fragments. Those are 37.5 Mya.?? Snail identification was general to the Ocala formation results of similar snail species.
  2. Honeywild621

    New or old??? Buffalo skull

    I’m helping a man clear out one of the most amazing antique collections iv ever seen and came across a Buffalo skull. I was looking up the value and researching it and when I first seen it I thought it was damaged or something because of the way the bone looked, it was different then any other iv seen and a different color. I came across the fossil skulls of them and I think it could be one! I’m hoping someone in here can point me in the right direction because I honestly even though growing up where everyone hunts have never put much thought into mounted skulls lol . Located in central Oklahoma .
  3. Hey y'all, First post here and would definitely enjoy any input on this bone I found today. It measures 4.15" in length. Thanks!
  4. Thought I would share some of my collection of fossil crabs I have collected over the last several years from the Beaumont formation of the Texas gulf coast. These little gems come out of dredge materials used to replenish the beaches. All are late Pleistocene in age. I started finding these while hunting the Texas beaches for shark teeth and over the years have built up a passion for fossil finding these fossil decapods.
  5. Stingray

    Very big fossil hunt FYI.

    Just in case you weren’t aware. Seems in the 1940’s NYC museum dumped a box car full of mammoth and other pliestocene fossils in the east river either ran out of room or just didn’t want them. Divers hunting for lost woolly mammoth bones in New York City's East River have finally made a discovery - uncovering what is believed to be the jawbone of a long-extinct steppe bison. Crews have been scanning the river after records surfaced suggesting the American Museum of Natural History dumped thousands of mammoth bones there in the 1940s when it ran out of storage space. Over the weekend, a team led by Don Gann, 35, and Christopher Ogden emerged from the water with their first discovery - the jawbone of an animal that went extinct some 10,000 years ago.
  6. Scylla

    Iowa Mammal Tooth Find

    Asking for a friend. Found in a stream where pliestiocene mammal material can be found. Wondeting if this is fossil, or just a cow tooth.
  7. Just Bob

    Bone Id request

    Hi, this bone was found on the shores of Fortescue, NJ. I suspect it is Pleistocene too modern in age.
  8. Austintharris

    Amelia Island Bone fragments and teeth

    Found recently on Amelia island. Almost certain I have a white shark tooth as well as a dolphin vertebra? Any other specifications would be great!
  9. Fossilnoodlechamp

    Fl fossil id

    What are these 2? Ne florida finds hawthorn formation. Thx in advance.
  10. Fossilnoodlechamp

    Please help ID these verts from Florida

    Found in alachua county florida. Please help me id these verts.
  11. MC_Hendges

    Green Mill Run - Large Bone Chunks

    Hey everyone! On my outings, I usually don't pick up the bone fragments, but I have stumbled upon a rather large pocket of good sized bone fragments that I would love some help in identifying. If no dice here, I'll get whatever is left ID'd at a museum this weekend. Fossil #1 - Going to take my best guess and say a rib of some sort? Fossil #2 Fossil #3 Fossil #4 And finally Fossil #5 There is PLENTY more where these came from, I consolidated the other fragments into a small area, so in the off chance anything here is significant, I would be more than happy to retrieve the rest. Thank you for any help you can provide, I know bone fragments are quite common at GMR, but I just found it odd to see so many chunks within close proximity.
  12. Lone Hunter

    Proximal phalanx?

    I'm horrible with bones so could be way off on this. Came from creek that's mostly QAL, it does not burn or smell and can't scratch it. Closest I could find is deer but they all look so similar! It has a reddish color, is that from staining?
  13. Lone Hunter

    Cow or bison bones?

    First let me say I did the burn test having never done it before, got the same faint smell from each. Then had to burn some of my hair for comparison, omg that was horrible! So I'm not sure ad far as that. All these came from part of creek in Dallas county that is very close to Trinity river, it is QAL on one side QT on the other. I know the smaller bone isn't cow just thought it was interesting. So I'm ready for my lesson in bones!
  14. Shellseeker

    Large Hoof Core

    I immediately thought toe bone or hoof core, but it did not look like Equus or Antiquus, too big ( 2.5, 2.25, 1.6 inches) to be Camel/Llama or tapir... ). I have looked around the forum and interent. Tapir seems to be closest, but I say that with little confidence.
  15. KingsburyFossilHunter

    Horse, of course?

    Dear Fossil Forum, We have continued to visit the Brazos near Houston, and it has turned up horse. Teeth, a proximal phalange, and what I think is actually not horse, but a tapir calcaneus! My latest find is a vertebra, and it looks like thoracic vertebra 18 (T18). But, in comparing it to a photo of a modern horse example, the facet for rib attachment is smaller in proportion, and lots of other details look a little different as well. Does anyone know of good resources for researching fossil horse ancestor vertebrae? Or know if there is variation in contemporary vert structure depending if mule, donkey, etc? I also do not have a good sense of scale. Photos attached. As always, thanks for looking
  16. dfrybarger

    Turtle scute?

    I found this rock on Ocean Beach in San Francisco. I have In the same area over the past few weeks recovered several fragments of Sand Dollar fossils probably about two million years old, according to a local geology/oceanology professor who recognized them right away. I am wondering if this rock might be a turtle scute as I have seen similar looking samples online that were Holocene turtle scutes. The sand dollars were the first fossils I’ve ever found outside of fossilized clams so I have no problem if this is just a rock. Many thanks in advance for the expert guidance and help.
  17. Chase_E

    Isurus oxyrinchus

    From the album: Misc. Cenozoic Specimens

    Isurus oxyrinchus
  18. sharko69

    Canid Tooth

    I found this tooth while looking for fossil crabs in Galveston this week. It is 5/8’’ across. Looks to be from a canid of some sort but not sure what. Looks large for a coyote.
  19. Shellseeker

    Hunting with Sacha

    No, not Sacha from Disney's Peter and the Wolf, no, not Sacha from Casablanca..... @Sacha So we went hunting yesterday meeting up with a couple of other fossil seekers in a location that has been very, very good to me in the last decade, but has taken a lot of hunting pressure and is not what it once was... However I can always hope to catch lightening in a bottle... or in my case, a fossil in the sieve. Nice day, a little cool, but 3 of us had wet suits on and I was comfortable. There was a younger guy from Minnesota, who was hunting in his bathing suit!!! I used to be young once!! I was hunting maybe 15-20 feet from Sacha and we carried on an ongoing banter, what we were finding, previous hunting successes, other likely locations and most important what was the other guy finding. One topic we discussed was how many of the numerous unknown bones you find, do you keep.. Sacha tends to toss and I keep almost everything to be tossed, if necessary , at some later date!!! I was finding mostly small shark teeth, but some were in good shape and big enough to encourage me to keep on hunting that hole I was digging. Sacha stayed at the same spot the whole day, whereas I stayed in one spot for 90 minutes, wandered around digging potholes for 90 minutes and eventually returned to my original hole , digging deeper and deeper, maybe because it was easier to carry on the conversation.. So here are my finds. What you see at the bottom are small shark teeth. Broken to the left worth $10 a pound that I donate to a fossil friend and relatively whole on the right ( young relatives, fossil club raffles and auctions, schools, kids organizations, etc. ) I have been doing this for 12 years. There is no lack of requests for teeth.. Average complete teeth go for $25 a pound. Consider what 30-40 pounds is worth. I try to be net zero on shark teeth by every year end. What is left under the white? Some more complete and/or interesting bones, broken or small bits that came into my screen. Fossilized wood, sea urchin spines, barracuda teeth, even one broken Meg, some upper Hemipristis, sting ray teeth, deer tine, small camel premolar, broken root dolphin tooth, sawfish rostral teeth, mammoth bits, dolphin bulla, calcified clam, etc .. normal stuff for the Peace River. I have some items I though worth their own photo: Closeup of the dolphin tooth, may be a ray barb fragment... the back sweeping teeth I did not recall seeing previously, and the reason for this post. Sacha asked what shark had the upward tip teeth with a rear nutrient groove. For that matter, why do some sharks have outward pointing tips? Finally, with whatever space I have left , I will flash up some of the bones. I may/may not add some to a fossil ID. Enjoy!!! Bone#2
  20. Ancient Bones, old bones and husband Dennis, along with Annie the rat terrier were joined by my brother and his wife on a trip to the Carolina coast. All of the following fossils were beach finds. I am posting for Ancient Bones and myself. Here are some of our favorite finds. Ancient Bones found this great alligator osteoderm. and several of these Burrfish mouth plates. She also found nice ivory fragments like this one. These are some of Ancient Bones various ray crushing teeth including Aetobatus, Plinthicus stenodon, and Myloibatis. These are Ancient Bones shark teeth. Sand Tiger Great White shark tooth an assortment of smaller teeth We are not sure which these are. Please jump in and help Ancient Bones ID these. We kept this item as we considered that it may be a periodic... @Boesse continued in next reply
  21. Shellseeker

    First for my collection

    Found this a couple of days back... how hard could it be to identify? A lower predator mandible with 1 complete carnassial and two half teeth, vertically split. How many small predators existed in the Florida fossil record? Look at the m1. That is different from both the canid (fox, coyote) m1 and felis (margay, bobcat) m1 you can find on TFF ID threads. So I checked out raccoon and possum ... nope!! Then I started looking at research papers comparing different type of predator m1s. I was always looking for the smaller predators. Then I stumbled on an old TFF thread, http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/78879-mammal-tooth/ and once again @Harry Pristis makes an ID. His photo pictures across the internet are an invaluable resource to the Florida Fossil Hunter. Most TFF members, except Harry, will need to go to the thread above to find the ID. This is the very first fossil I have from this animal, and I am very pleased to add to the collection. I have always had a curious mind. No surprise that I have questions: 1) What is going on in that 1st photo? Is this some creature like the worm bore that carries a little chain saw, and slices off half of the p3, half of the p4, and leaves a demarcation line down the side of the m1? Exactly at the halfway point of all 3 teeth. Sometimes I feel paranoiac.. 2) More specifically, for those that have one of these in their collections, large, medium, small example? 3) Is there one specific animal in the Florida fossil record or a couple of options. So far I have seen at least one latin name and imagine there are others. Thanks for the good wishes , any and all comments. Jack .cc @jcbshark
  22. Shellseeker

    An odd bone

    Out hunting today, and doing some prospecting. The weather was supposed to be warmer (high of 79), and the air was fine, but the water was cold. We had 3 hunters, but not many unique finds, a nurse shark and an unusual bone, neither found by me. When I say unusual, we are 3 experienced fossil hunters, and none of us has an ID.. Hopefully TFF can assist.
  23. Chippewa

    Osteoderm, but from what?

    The boney armor plates that I have found have either been giant armadillo or Glyptodont or Alligator. This one I found years ago doesn't look like any of those, but maybe it is just from a different area of the animal? Thoughts? Thanks!
  24. Josh stout

    big brook cervical vertebra

    My daughter found this at Big Brook NJ. It was loose at the bottom of the stream. I don't think it is a cow, horse or deer, but it could be pleistocene. I just joined the forum, and hope this works. Thanks
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