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Found 35 results

  1. Marine reptile tooth ID Lyme Regis

    Hi all, Bought this tooth online a while back. It was sold to me as "Ichthyosaurus platyodon" (which I understand to mean Temnodontosaurus platyodon) from Lyme Regis. Likely found by the seller themselves, as I know they occasionally collect fossils there. However, for the following reasons, I'm not sure about this attribution: Overall, the tooth doesn't look like your typical ichthyosaur tooth to me: It has more of an oval rather than round cross-section It's labolingually flattened Messial and distal carinae run the full length of the crown and divide the tooth into labial and lingual parts While fine striations can be seen on one side of the tooth (presumably the lingual side), the other side (which would be the labial) seems entirely smooth - though some traces of rare striations can be seen on the photographs The striations are much more similar to those of crocodile or pliosaur teeth than to the plicidentine condition so typical of ichthyosaurs The horizontal banding on the tooth surface is unfamiliar to me with respect to most marine reptile teeth I have seen, but occurs much more frequently on crocodile teeth of various species I also bought another tooth with the same attribution from the seller, more or less around the same time. This one has no striations whatsoever, has a more rounded base, is less flattened and has a more rounded tip. It also has carinae. I therefore reclassified it as a probable Goniopholis sp. crocodile tooth. Now I know that not having the root makes it more difficult to identify this particular specimen, but I was hoping someone on this forum might be able to help me, as currently it goes without label. I've considered crocodile, plesiosaur and even pliosaur, but all of these have some reservations that prevent final classification. For one, none of these groups have teeth that are typically flattened like this, nor do plesiosaurs (sensu lato, thus including pliosaurs) have carinae. Crocodiles, then again, would either have or not have striations all around the tooth. And what to make of the banding: is this just preservational, or does it reflect the internal structure of the tooth - i.e. outcome of the tooth's ontological growth? Tooth measures 18 mm and is missing the tip. Thanks in advance for your help!
  2. It was initially being sold as plesiosaur when I inquired about it, but seller says it was mislabelled and is pliosaur--which, if accurate, even better! But I am dubious over Pliosaur ID because I don't think I've ever seen any Morocco pliosaur fossils up for sale. But, if anyone can take a look and let me if A) It looks legit and B ) Whether you think Pliosaur or plesiosaur is accurate, that would be great. 80 million years old, from Morocco. 17 inches along the straight edge and 10 inches along the bottom. Thanks for any help!
  3. Texas Pliosaur

    Went out for a hunt with friends today on a local creek in Denton County, Texas and came across this great tooth. Better beat up that not to find at all. Was totally stoked when I saw the tip and thought I had found a large mosy in this creek. Was even more excited when I made out what I had really found.
  4. Hi all, this is not actual news as it happened in 2002, but the footage of excavation process and participants' memories became available only recently. I hope it will be interesting for everybody who is into marine Mezozoic and field paleontology in general. The species: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luskhan Excavation video: Participants' memories: Set subtitles to automatic translation, its 70% correct:) There are some weirdo mistakes, but overall comprehensible Assembled skeleton on display: I described the location here:
  5. I've always been fascinated by the Cretaceous sea and its myriad of terrifying carnivores, many that would've made Jaws look meek. After watching BBC's Sea Monsters, I made it my goal to compile a box of sea monster fossils. I started this journey 10 years ago, and finally completed the box recently. Allow me to present my Predators of the Cretaceous Sea collection, and take you on a journey to the most dangerous sea of all times. The box measures 20.25 inches long. Inside are 24 unique predator fossils. I will introduce them from left to right, top to bottom: Rhombodus binkhorsti Age: 70.6 - 66 mya | late Cretaceous Formation: Severn Formation Locality: Bowie, Maryland, USA Size: 1 meters Diet: Molluscs and crustaceans art by Nobu Tamura --------------- Polyptychodon interruptus Age: 105.3 - 94.3 mya | Cretaceous Formation: Stoilensky Quarry stratigraphic unit Locality: Stary-Oskol, Belgorod Oblast, Russia Size: Maybe 7 meters (This is a tooth taxon so size is not confirmed) Diet: Anything it could catch Note: If you consider Polytychodon a nomen dubium, then this is a Pliosauridae indet. art by Mark Witton ----------------- Prognathodon giganteus Age: 70.6 - 66 mya | late Cretaceous Formation: Ouled Abdoun Basin Locality: Khouribga Phosphate Deposits, Morocco Size: 10-14 meters Diet: Everything art by SYSTEM(ZBrushCentral) --------------- Coloborhynchinae indet. Age: 99.7 - 94.3 mya | late Cretaceous Formation: Kem Kem Beds Locality: Southeast Morocco Size: 7 meters (high estimate) Diet: Fish and cephalopods
  6. UK Marine Reptile Teeth

    Hello all, I've had two teeth in my collection for many years now. I've recently moved and lost the supplied ID labels that came with them. I've taken this as a nice opportunity to see what others may think they are. I believe if memory serves me right the large tooth (Tooth A in photos) was labeled as a Simolestes. Then the smaller tooth tip (Tooth B in photos) labeled as Liopleurodon. I know both were found in the Wicklesham pit in Faringdon, Oxfordshire, UK. Upon some research, I found an article from 2014 with a Dakosaurus tooth discovered to be the largest in the UK at the time. This tooth bears some resemblance to tooth A but I'm unsure. I've attached a link to the article below. Tooth B has been worn down but still presents with grooves in the enamel. I have also labeled each photo to allow for easier identification when talking about it (Hope this helps!). Im excited to hear what others think. Thanks for reading Link to articles on Dakosaurus- http://www.sci-news.com/paleontology/science-tooth-fossil-dakosaurus-maximus-01954.html
  7. Are there ways to differentiate long neck plesiosaur bones vs. pliosaur bones*(specifically vertebrae from the kimmeridge clay in this case), other than by size, in some cases? *or any of the paddle bones
  8. UK Ichthyosaur or Pliosaur Tooth

    Hello, I recently got a hold of this tooth from an old collection in the UK. I am unsure if this tooth wouldve come from a ichthyosaur or a pliosaur since the root is absent and I'm not expert in this material, so any feedback that help figure this tooth out is appreciated.
  9. Plesiosaur tooth/teeth?

    This kind of tooth surface, with the ridges, isn’t that for the most part, not a common plesiosaur feature? This is from Lyme Regis....what would you all think?
  10. Pliosaur tooth?

    I just saw this could it be a pliosaur tooth, measures 3cm long and found in Russia?
  11. Do these look like Pliosaur teeth?

    Do these two fragmented teeth look like they could be from a Pliosaur? one is 3.7cm and the other is 2.8cm. Both come from the Goulmima region in Morocco. Thanks.
  12. Pliosaur jaw

    A rare pliosaur jaw with part of tooth unfortunately it's weathered tooth and it's measures about 4 inches and incomplete its could be larger what's a monster it would be. Its from Jurassic, Kimmeridge Clay. Dredged from the Smallmouth Sands off Weymouth Harbour, Dorset
  13. Hi, How can you tell by isolated bones, besides the skull, if you see a pliosaur or plesiosaur remains? Any obvious differences in paddle bones or vertebrae? Triangular teeth? Does it all depend on the given species? Thanks
  14. Hi, I was wondering if this tooth could be from a Pliosaur. It is from the Goulmima area in Morocco. It is 8.8cm in length and some of the striations remain near the tip (the size is what makes me think Pliosaur). Thanks.
  15. Pliosaur model

    It’s been enjoyable talking to people in the forum and sharing a common interest so I thought I would share some old images of a rough pliosaur model I made years ago. I think I modelled it on a kronosaurus and went with a sort of ‘elephant seal’ bulk look as at the time I was reading about marine reptiles inhabiting colder southern seas. I was trying to get the impression of size in the photos - a sort of divers perspective as it cruised past uncomfortably close ....
  16. Pliosaur discovery The landowner has asked that the location is kept secret to avoid the problem of having unauthorised collectors trespassing on their land, and the risk that unscrupulous individuals may loot the site and destroy valuable scientific information in doing so. 28/10/2017 First discoveries The SDGS organised a field trip to a quarry known for its exposures of the Lower Chalk and Kimmeridge Clay. It was a very successful day, and many interesting finds were made by members of the society, including ichthyosaur and plesiosaur bones, and a possible dinosaur bone. The most significant find of the day however was a very muddy lump of limestone which on closer examination showed itself to be the tip of the snout of a pliosaur. The bone was found at the bottom of a clay face a meter and a half high. Within the face is yellowish, pyritic bed which look similar to some of the clay adhering to the snout. Other bones, including a vertebral centrum and the atlas-axis were found either in material eroded from the face or in situ.The prospect looks good for more bones, possibly of a scattered skeleton of the animal. 01/01/2018 Preparation of premaxilla The bones found on the first visit were took to Mark Evans at New Walk Museum, Leicester for his views on their identity and significance. We had initially identified the tip of the snout as a maxilliary symphysis, but Mark determined that it is the premaxilla. He also identified the atlas-axis, The outcome of this was that the find is potentially of considerable significance. Large pliosaurs are rare. 26/05/2018 Second site visit A second field trip was arranged with the intention to find out if any more of the animal is preserved. The team started to dig into the face to expose the bed from which the bones originated. After a rather dicouraging first hour or so, vertebra started to appear. It became clear that this is not just a few scattered bones, but possibly a substantially complete carcase. 16/06/2018 Third visit After the success of the last visit, it became clear that a more systematic approach to the excavation is needed. Sketches of the layout of the bones within a 50x50cm grid were made, and bones were numbered as they were lifted. The preservation of the bone is patchy. Most of the vertebral centra are robust and well-preserved, but the ribs are in general very friable especially when wet. Centra were numbered and lifted at the end of the day. Ribs were soaked in a weak paraloid in acetone solution, covered with foil and paper towels and left in place for lifting on the next visit. 16/06/2018 Vertebrae lifted The vertebrae 56-64 were lifted at the end of the day. 67 was loose and was also lifted. Ribs and the neural spine (50) were consolidated using increasing concentrations of paraloid in acetone, covered in foil and left in place. All in-situ material remaining was then covered with newspaper, a layer of plastic sheeting and loose clay. 04/07/2018 Excavation day 4 This and the following day were made possible by the cooperation and support of the quarry, who gave us access to the site during working hours and provided help in the form of a digger to excavate the overburden over a wide area. 19 more bones were found on the day, including five vertebrae, two of them with the neural arch intact. Star find of the day is a tooth, tentatively identified as a ratchet tooth and circular section in section, which may be significant in determining the taxonomic identity of the specimen. The ribs which had been left in place after the previous visit were lifted, in most cases jacketted. For some plastered fabric strips were used, others the more traditional method of plaster of paris and hessian strips. 05/07/2018 Excavation day 5 This turned out to be the final day of excavation. Only one more bone was found, a large rib (120). A wide area of at least 2m from any bone location was dug to below the horizon in which the bones are found discovered nothing more. The dig was completed by mid-day. The build up to an outing up North The Stamford and District Geological Society has a history of visiting this quarry. Starting in 2009 and went for 3 consecutive years.With one more organised visit there in 2014 arranged by long serving field secretary Kenny Nye. It wasn’t until the beginning of September 2017 that Kenny had contacted me to say he had spoke to the quarry foreman to arrange another visit. Bearing in mind that no one else had visited the quarry since our last visit in 2014! this was an opportunity not to be missed. The SDGS has a good group of members who are well versed with working quarries. With tried and tested methods in place from previous significant finds in the past. But as we have not travelled this far for some time I felt that we needed someone on board who knew the area well. Or more importantly and if possibly knows the geology of this quarry. As I’ve suggested before you need to do your research and get your questions out there. You would be surprised to how many people are willing to listen. I find when researching on the internet you need a few specific words to get you going in the right direction. For this field trip, it was “Jurassic marine deposits in the UK. Then let the following relevant “of on a tangent” search results run their course. Kimmeridge Clay Formations (Upper Jurassic) was the leading search result. Especially as these horizons have yielded numerous complete and fragmentary remains that grace many private and museum collections across the UK. Now interestingly after reading about numerous Kimmeridge Clay specimens being found here there and everywhere. My attention was often diverted to a rare Cretaceous ichthyosaur from Lincolnshire. Admittedly not Kimmeridge Clay Formation but two “of on a tangent” key words were found (a marine reptile Ichthyosaur) and (Lincolnshire). The rare ichthyosaur was found by the geologist John Green who bought this to the attention of the palaeontologist Dean Lomax. The geologist John Green and Lincolnshire associated together became more and more apparent in my research. After one final late night on the laptop I discovered “John Green” had conducted some research on the foreshore to where the Scunthorpe Pliosaur was found. So, there was one obvious thing to do now, that was speak to Dean Lomax as the SDGS know him quite well and find out how to contact John Green immediately to acquire his thoughts and opinions. And of course, to tag along for our forthcoming field trip. After an in-depth phone call, John has agreed to go with us which is somewhat of a relief as I felt the group could hit the ground running, now with have someone in the group who has good experience of this quarry. The SDGS met as planned at the quarry around 07.30am and were greeted by the quarry foreman. It’s an absolute must that both parties (quarry management and visiting group) are singing of the same sheet straight away. So, when the Health and Safety talk is mentioned you need to absorb everything that is mentioned. As you have to remember that the quarry has put a lot of trust in our group, if you let them down then don’t expect any return trips. We were then pointed in the general direction towards the quarry, which was a long way away and told to have a nice time and to look out for each other. So, what more can you ask for, trust is established, and head off to see what we can find. It was a pleasurable walk as we meandered down to the bottom of the quarry, with time to chat on a loose plan of action while discussing various geology write ups of the quarry. A 20-minute walk soon got us to the quarry floor. Now there is a lot of geology going on all around you, you can look through vast amounts of Chalk, Kimmeridge Clay and even Carstone Formation exposures. We were allowed 4 hours at the quarry so it’s time for less chatting and heads down looking at the ground in front of you. The quarry floor is certainly a wide-open space of Kimmeridgian clay with a scattering of Bivalves and numerous fragments of ammonites. But for me somehow felt a little un-fossiliferous so decided to go off track somewhat and scale some of the steep sided quarry sides or steps as they are known. While traversing up and down one of these banks, perhaps 20 feet from the quarry floor itself. I found myself following a trail of small Rasenia cymodoce? Ammonites. Followed these for perhaps a good 30 meters or so until the trail ended. But pressed on a bit further, and so glad I did because the next thing I was looking down at was a large vertebra. I had no idea what from at the time due its poor condition, but of course we do now. So, this was the start of the discovery of the Scunthorpe Pliosaur. The blog of mine written above for anyone who may be interested is perhaps a little light on context but I hope you get the gist of things. But please do pick out of it what you want, if you would like me to elaborate a bit more on anything of interest then I’m more than happy to discuss to the best of my ability." Some of the many vertebrae found below.
  17. Found by yours truly (D) from DE&i https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-47370838 https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/local-news/sea-monster-pliosaur-scunthorpe-museum-2585293
  18. What is the largest pliosaur vertebra you have seen? Do any exceed 20 cm?
  19. Pliosaur tooth from Russia

    Hi everyone, Please can you let me know your thoughts on this Peloneustes portentificus pliosaur tooth, it is from Ural Mountains in Russia and is just above an inch in size? I am not sure if anyone has some nice ones in their collection but it would be cool to see if anyone does for comparison purposes. Thanks! Jai
  20. Goulmima Pliosaur tooth?

    Hello, I recently bought this tooth and it was labelled as a Pliosaur tooth. I was wondering if this is true as I haven’t seen many fossils from Goulmima.
  21. Missing pliosaurs?

    This started bothering me from lack of fossils for sale(and tooth prices when they are), and although this is far from anything scientific or reliable, I feel like I hear about plesiosaur fossil finds significantly more than pliosaurs finds(im not really sure how to begin searching for that kind of compiled info). Is there a reason pliosaurs seem to be so rare? As far as fossils for sale, the only thing I can think of, other than pliosaurs being just plain rare(super rare when compared to the number of plesiosaurs), is that for some reason everyone just mistakes/assumes pliosaur fossils are actually from plesiosaurs.
  22. On Sunday I took a trip to the Natural History Museum in London. I queued up before it opened at 10am and even before then there was a long queue. I have not visited this museum since I was a child and spent an entire day there (10am to 4.30pm - a long time). I was surprised as it is a lot bigger than I remembered and there was so much to see. This place has the most wonderful things and is an incredible place to learn. The museum showcases a Baryonyx, Sophie the Stegosaurus (the world's most complete Stegosaurus) and more! The moving Trex and Deinonychus are also really realistic in the way they move. If you like your dinosaur teeth, the Megalosaurus and Daspletosaurus teeth are out of this world! There is something for everyone in this museum and I would highly recommend that you visit here if you have not already! A lot of the dinosaur specimens are casts taken from other museums but they are still cool to look at. I had taken the photos on my SLR and due to the size of the photos I had to reduce the quality of them to be able to post on the forum which is unfortunate but it's the only way otherwise the photos would take a really long time to load. There are more non-dinosaur related photos that I will be posting at some point later on but may take me some time to pick out. Enjoy the photos from this section of the museum! Blue Zone Dinosaurs (has a mix of some photos of crocs too)
  23. Pliosaur tooth from Morocco?

    Hey guys. Saw this tooth labelled as pliosaur. It really looks like a fat plesiosaur,croc or mosa. Hard to tell. Is there a pliosaur expert here who can confirm it or not? Would be awesome. 4,5cm, Goulmima Morocco. Sorry these are the only pics I have. Kind regards
  24. Plesiosaur and pliosaur teeth

    From the album Marine reptiles and mammals

    Pliosaur teeth--liopleurodon ferox(?) & unidentified genera plesiosaur teeth--cryptoclidus sp & cryptoclidus sp (?) lower oxford clay callovian stage middle jurassic 160 mya peterborough, cambridge U.K. Hampton lakes & Bradley Fen.whittlesey
  25. Pliosaur vertebra

    Hey everyone. Saw this vertebra online labelled as a Pliosaur vertebra. I heard pliosaur is quite rare and valuable so maybe this could be a good deal. What do you think? It is from Gloucester UK. also from the Upper Triassic (Rhaetian) Thanks for suggestions! (Not sure if I will be able to respond quickly to this post but I will do it ASAP. )
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