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  1. Taxonomy from Klug & Kriwet, 2012. Alternative name: Squatina alifera References: Münster, G.G. (1842) Beschreibungen einiger neuen Fische in den lithographischen Schiefern von Bayern. Beiträge zur Petrefactenkunde, 5, 55–64. Underwood, C. J. (2002): Sharks, rays and a chimaeroid from the Kimmeridgian (Late Jurassic) of Ringstead, southern England. – Palaeontology, 45 (2): 297–325. Carvalho, Kriwet & Thies (2008): A systematic and anatomical revision of Late Jurassic angelsharks (Chondrichthyes: Squatinidae). Thies, D. & Leidner, A. (2011): Sharks and guitarfishes (Elasmobranchii) from the Late Jurassic of Europe. Palaeodiversity 4: 63–184; Stuttgart. Klug, S. and Kriwet, J. (2013): An offshore fish assemblage (Elasmobranchii, Actinopterygii) from the Late Jurassic of NE Spain. Palaeontologische Zeitschrift 87(2):235-257.
  2. oilshale

    Pseudorhina alifera Muenster 1843

    From the album: Vertebrates

    Pseudorhina alifera Muenster 1843 Late Jurassic Tithonian Sappenfeld Bavaria Germany
  3. This piece is supposedly a horseshoe crab ( Mesolimulus walchii) from the Solnhofen limestone of Germany. It is Jurassic and the description says there has only been mild color enhancement. Is this fossil real? Any fabrication? Thanks for the answers!
  4. Psittacosaur9

    Solnhofen Brittle Star

    Hello everyone, and I hope you've had a good weekend. I have purchased this brittle star found in the Solnhofen Limestone. Here are the two images they have provided - in any case, they're probably higher quality than my phone would be able to take. They have labelled it as an unidentified species, and that it is known to have grown to a maximum of 3 centimeters across. The slab my specimen is on is 3 cm itself. What should I label it as in my display cabinet? Thanks for the help, it has been much appreciated over the last few weeks.
  5. Paolo997

    Solnhofen little Fish ID

    H Forum, these 2 speciments come from the eichstatt quarry (DE, next to the most famous Solnhofen quarries) the first one should be well preserved enough to try an accurate specie ID the second one, i'm not sure it is a fish, but the curved body and the strong orange color should indicate a bad preserved little fish Thanks a lot Paolo
  6. Paolo997

    Solnhofen little fossil ID

    Hi Forum this speciment was collected in the Eichstatt quarry (next to solnhofen) DE. I have no idea what it could be. It seems like to have some sort of exoskeleton because there are dark mineral structures on the edges (the dark spots). I attached 2 macros collage to make the details more visible (the last 2 images). This is both positive and negative. It is about 2.5cm long. In the beginnig it looks to me like a little fish, but after quarry dirt cleaning (it was a rainy day) i am not that sure, some sort of invertebrate? Thanks a lot Paolo
  7. Paolo997

    Solnhofen little bones ID

    Hi Forum, on April 23rd-25th I visited Solnhofen for some fossil hunting in the most famous quarries. I found some good ammonites and 2 little fishes. While opening some layers, i found a little orange bone shaped piece. At home i tried some clening and preparation. This is the best i can extract. It is VERY small, all the bones cover an area of 1.5x1.5cm. Below you can find some macros at different angles and focus. sorry for the raw preparation, i'll smooth it later i promise :) it was found in the big Eichstätt quarry next to solnhofen. I think some some pterosaur? i tried to zoom the best on the bone surfaces, maybe it can help thanks a lot Paolo
  8. Paolo997

    ID probably fish from Solnhofen

    Hi forum, sorry, it's me again. After 4 hours of preparation, from an initial 2x1cm of exposed orange surface, this thing popped out i have no idea what it is. the dark part looks pretty wrinkled while the lightest is smooth. My immagination sees a fish head, but i'm not an expert of the Solnhofen area. Also i have exposed the rock a little randomly so i won't be surprise if there is something else below. That's exactly the point where an ID will be very helpful to proceed with preparation and details exposure the rock was collected in a Solnhofen quarry (150m years old). the length is about 5cm Thanks a lot best regards Paolo
  9. Normally I have a good knowledge about Solnhofen-Fossils. This is the first one since many years I really do not exactly know what it is... Might be a Jellyfish (but the symmetrie does not fit), a sponge? (do not think so, but...), young Sting ray (you see, the ideas become more interesting because we really do not have a clear idea...). Size is approx. 15 x 12 cm (6 x 4,5"), split pair what do you think? thanks for input
  10. Hi Everyone! A couple of days ago I returned from a fieldtrip to the Solnhofen region in Germany. The trip was organized by my fossilclub the BVP as well as my friend and professional paleontologist Jonathan Wallaard who led the trip. During our 4 day stay we visited 3 different quarries and the Burgermeister-Müller-Museum in Solnhofen. The Solnhofen Limestone is probably one of the most famous Konservat-Lagerstätte in the World. Dating back to the late Jurassic, Tithonian around 152 - 150 million years ago. During this time this area was a tropical archipelago in the Tethys Sea with many small islands and shallow lagoons. Due to its exceptional preservation we have an extensive record of the marine fauna as well a some knowledge of terrestrial species which inhabited the islands (which should have been located around 30 km from the mainland if I heard correctly from one of the quarry owners.) These seas were home to multiple species of ammonites, belemnites and squids; crinoïds like the free-floating Saccocoma; Echinoïds and Starfish; Horseshoe crabs, lobsters, crabs and schrimps; as well as sponges, corals, jellyfish, bivalves, gastropods and brachiopods (which are relatively rare finds.) But also a large diversity of bony fish (some of which could reach multiple meters in length), Hybodont sharks, Chimaera's as well as marine reptiles like the Ichthyosaur "Aegirosaurus", marine crocodiles, turtles and Pleurosaurus. The islands were home to Cycads and Araucariaceae trees, but also by many insects like dragonflies and beetles, reptiles like Sphenodonts and Squamates. Though the most famous of its inhabitants must have been the pterosaurs like Pterodactylus and Rhamphorhynchus as well as some dinosaurs like Compsognathus, Juravenator, Sciurumimus, Archaeopteryx and Alcmonavis. Our first day of digging was on friday (may 19th) at the BGM hobbysteinbruch in Solnhofen which is part of the Mörnsheim Formation (150,8 - 150 mya). https://www.solnhofen-fossilienatlas.de/siteinfo.php?section=sites&siteid=75&sitename=Solnhofen Hobbybruch The main fossils that could be found in this quarry were ammonites, aptychi, coprolites as well as fish. Our group of around 30 people assembled at the quarry at 10 o'clock and after a few words from the quarry owner and Jonathan we set of to dig. An overview of the quarry before we started digging. A couple of minutes later... Jonathan pointed me and my good friend Tom to a good place to dig and so we started cleaning debri so we could start digging. Since the Plattenkalk is layered it is always a good stategy to find some plateaus where so can hack away chunks which you can later split (which I suppose most of you already know). Pic of my hole in which I was working Unfortunately it turns out that the spot I picked must have been a public toilet as pretty much everything I found the first half of the day where coprolites, which turned into a running joke that day I was lucky enough to find a fish early one, though still entirely entombed in the rock but Jonathan warned us to look for bones into the cracked stones and that's how I managed to find it. Will require quite some prep work though. Later that day I started finding multiple Aptychi, Ammonites as well as a rare Bivalve. A plate with 3 ammonites (probably Neochetoceras steraspis) An ammonite with the Aptychus still in place which was found by one of the other members. Our club founder Luc, found this large piece of decorative slab which almost looked like it is petrified wooden dining table. Not a fossil but still cool as heck. And Tinneke managed to find a lovely fish jaw which was excavated by the help of Jonathan. While I didn't take pictures of the following, quite some members found fossil fish (some around 40 cm in lenght) and crustaceans like schrimp.
  11. Paolo997

    Identification request Solnhofen

    Hi, i'd like to request an id of this speciment that i collected in a quarry in Solnhofen. At the beginning it looked like a fish part (only 3x3mm was exposed), but during the preparation it started looking more like a shell. Then a strange striped black "horn" popped off during preparation so i stopped my work to know better what it is before doing some damage while cleaning. Do you have any suggest about it? The total length is 17mm. I don't know if the black part is something related to this animal or an extra object to remove... Sorry, I'm a complete beginner Thanks a lot Paolo
  12. I did not find the possibility to answer on pics in other albums. So, this is the link to a wonderful tooth Archaeopteryx lithographica tooth - Members Gallery - The Fossil Forum Love to know more about it, who determined it as tooth from Archaeopteryx. I would love to see a close-up, too. Do not think it is Archaeopteryx @jacob86795
  13. Hi, here are some fossils from my collection. All fossils were found in upper jurassic limestone quarries of Southern Germany. BR Martin
  14. Hello, My Dad and I purchased a really beautiful Solnhofen dragonfly resembling something very similar to this (not my picture), which has these really prominent eyes and legs on it. Is this naturally preserved or likely painted on, and if so, does this affect the quality and value? Seller is reputable and I know paint is common with the Solnhofen just so you can see them for display which I don't mind but just curious what is likely real and what is not... Ours is a big boy at over 7".
  15. DarasFossils

    Solnhofen Jellyfish?

    I just went to a local rock and fossil shop in Montana and they had an amazing selection of fossils for really reasonable prices, so I ended up getting quite a few. They had a lovely Solnhofen rack, mostly filled with fish, insects, and coprolites and some beautiful squid but I saw this questionable creature in the corner for very cheap so I decided it was worth it to purchase. I am guessing it is a jellyfish due to the shape, and I hope it is, but if it is something else, I really did not waste my money. It's around an inch and a half in diameter (4cm.) Just hoping it's not a coprolite lol. Anyone know a thing or two about Jurassic Jellies? Pic below, I can take a better quality photo in the daytime if that helps.
  16. Howdy! I’ve recently inherited a small amount of money, which I intend to spend on a high quality fossil. Merry Christmas to me! (I’m sure my Mom would approve…) I’ve always wanted a Solnhofen dragonfly. Attached are a couple photos of a specimen of interest, identified as Aeschnogomphus. I’ve requested UV photos if possible of specimen, which is in Europe. I know it’s essentially all real. But is there artistic enhancement? Seller says no repair, but can’t say whether it has been enhanced. It is very, very expensive, a once in a lifetime purchase. Probably a good investment. But perhaps too expensive to buy online…From someone I don’t know… I can provide website name or link if allowed on this Forum. I also have my eye on a Burgess Shale fossil as an alternative, authenticity guaranteed, from a very reputable guy I’ve purchased from before. Any thoughts at all would be much appreciated. Cheers!
  17. Goodmorning, last month I went to Solnhofen for my last fossil trip of the year in Germany. I found a lot of fossils (ammonites, coprolites, fish, worms...) and now I'm preparing the specimens. I have basic tools, a Dremel 290, needles, awls. I prepare all of these fossils with succes, but a big coprolite is still covered buy a tiny layer of matrix, that I can't remove with my actual tools. It's possible to effectively remove the matrix left with acid? Tomorrow I will post a photo of the fossil. Thanks.
  18. oilshale

    Amiopsis lepidota (Agassiz, 1833)

    Taxonomy from Fossilworks.org. Etymology: Lepidota (Greek), a form of lepidotós, scaly. Grande & Bemis 1998, p.490: “ Originally described as †Megalurus lepidotus by Agassiz in 1833:146, and listed that way by numerous authors over the next 100 years or so, but †Megalurus Agassiz is a junior homonym--see generic list for †Amiopsis Kner, 1863, above. Also referred to as †Urocles lepidotus by Jordan (1919:567); Lange (1968:32); Lambers (1992:295); and others." Grande & Bemis 1998, p.493: “Emended species diagnosis-†Amiopsis lepidota differs from other species of the genus by the following adult characters A through D (note there is a range of overlap between some species for characters B, C, and D). (A) The opercle is wider than in other species of the genus (0.96-1.00 compared to 0.77-0.83 in †A. woodwardi, 0.91-0.92 in †A. damoni, 0.82 in †A. dolloi, and an estimated 0.80 in †A. prisca, based on our study sample). (B) There are seven to nine procurrent epaxial caudal rays (versus five or six in †A. damoni, and three in †A. dolloi; the count in †A. prisca is unknown, and the count of †A. woodwardi is within the range of †A. lepidota). (C) There are 61-65 total centra and 48-52 total vertebrae in post-juvenile stages (versus 58-61 centra and 45-48 vertebrae in †A. woodwardi, 59-60 centra and 47 vertebrae in †A. damoni, 56-57 centra and 46 vertebrae in †A. dolloi, and 70-74 centra and 55-56 vertebrae in †A. prisca). (D) There are 17-19 dorsal proximal radials (versus 14-16 in †A. woodwardi, and 15-17 in †A. dolloi; †A. damoni and †A. prisca are within the range of †A. lepidota)." Line drawing from Grande & Bemis 1998, p. 497: References: Kner, R. (1863). Über einige fossile Fische aus den Kreide- und Tertiärschichten von Comen und Podsused. Sitzungsberichte der Akademie der Wissenschaften in Wien mathematisch-naturwissenschaftliche Klasse 48:126-148. Agassiz, L. (1833-1844). Recherches sur les Poissons Fossiles. 5 volumes plus supplement. Published by the author, printed by Petitpierre: Neuchâtel. Jordan, D. S. (1919). New genera of fishes. Proceedings of the Academy of Natural Sciences. Lambers, P. (1992). On the ichthyofauna of the Solnhofen Lithographic Limestone (Upper Jurassic, Germany). Doctoral thesis. Privately published, Ryksuniversiteit Groningen, 336 pp. Lance Grande & William E. Bemis (1998) A Comprehensive Phylogenetic Study of Amiid Fishes (Amiidae) Based on Comparative Skeletal Anatomy. an Empirical Search for Interconnected Patterns of Natural History, Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology, 18:S1, 1-696, DOI: 10.1080/02724634.1998.10011114.
  19. On our famous auction site just popped out some incredibly detailed fossil insects and amphibians. Although there are no info from the seller (who probably got them without being aware of what they are), those are unfortunately not real. The matrix is clearly a limestone from Solnhofen, easily recognisable by the floating crinods (Saccocoma) and by manganese dendrites. There are highly detailed insect on them that have never been found in Solnhofen (including a giant spider). Also the amphibian column is probably a fish spine. There are already some bids on them, but please be aware. Also let me know what do you think
  20. rocket

    cfStenophlebia

    From the album: Fossils from the Plattenkalke of the Altmühl Valley

    another lovely dragonfly, 4 wings and parts of the body (the body is often not preserved), size is around 7 cm, just in prep (I hope to find more of the body, we will see...)
  21. Mesolimulus walchi in dorsal preservation with (poorly) retained "death trace". Taxonomy from Russel et al. 2021. Russel et al. 2021, p. 6: "Emended diagnosis. Prosoma semi-circular, genal spines without indentations that terminate at a first fifth of thoracetron. Cardiac lobe cone-shaped with crenulated margins and cardiac ridge. Ophthalmic ridges present and do not curve towards lateral prosomal margins. Posterior prosomal rim pronounced and lacks beads along margin. Occipital bands present and pronounced. Thoracetron trapezoidal and has pronounced flange. Lateral margin ridges absent. Moveable spine notches present and pronounced. Moveable spines long. Medial lobe triangular, has ridge and spines on ridge. Terminal thoracetronic spines medium sized and posterolaterally directed. Telson embayment strongly concave. Telson keeled. “ References: Russell D. C. Bicknell; Błażej Błażejowski; Oliver Wings; Tomaž Hitij; Mark L. Botton (2021). Critical re‐evaluation of Limulidae uncovers limited Limulus diversity. Papers in Palaeontology, pp. 1-32. doi:10.1002/spp2.1352 D. R. Lomax & Ch. A. Racay (2012). A Long Mortichnial Trackway of Mesolimulus walchi from the Upper Jurassic Solnhofen Lithographic Limestone near Wintershof, Germany. ICHNOS - International Journal for Plant and Animal Traces 01/2012; 19(3):175-183. DOI:10.1080/10420940.2012.702704 J. C. Lamsdell (2016). Horseshoe crab phylogeny and independent colonizations of fresh water: Ecological invasion as a driver for morphological innovation - Palaeontology (59), 181-194.
  22. oilshale

    Magila latimana Muenster 1839

    Taxonomy from Fossilworks.org. The state of preservation of Magila is mostly poor, which becomes understandable when you consider that Magila was a burrowing crustacean living in the ground. Therefore, a more calcified carapace was not necessary. Only the exceptionally wide claws are mostly well preserved. These probably also served for digging. Diagnosis from Garassino & Schweigert 2006, p. 22: “Carapace cylindrical laterally flattened; deep cervical groove strongly directed forward; one or two carinae weak in antennal region; rostrum short and edentate; antennal spine well developed; pereiopods I-III chelate; pereiopod I larger and stronger than pereiopods II-III; pereiopods IV-V achelate; uropodal exopod with diaeresis.” Line drawing: References: Garassino, Alessandro & Schweigert, Günter (2006). The Upper Jurassic Solnhofen decapod crustacean fauna review of the types from old descriptions Part I. Infraorders Astacidea, Thalassinidea, and Palinura. Memorie della Societa Italiana di Scienze Naturali e del Museo Civico di Storia Naturale di Milano, Volume XXXIV - Fascicolo I. Schweitzer, C. E., Feldmann, R. M., Garassino, A., Karasawa, H. and Schweigert, G. (2010). Systematic list of fossil decapod crustacean species. Crustaceana Monographs 10:1-222.
  23. I already did some research (well, I looked through the Wikipedia list of fossil fish found in Solnhofen), but the closest thing I could find was Leptolepides, however they dont really look alike... Can anyone tell me, what I have got here? Thank you! Since all of you have been asking about the size, I took a picture with a ruler (alright, I took two)
  24. rocket

    Solnhofenamia

    From the album: Fossils from the Plattenkalke of the Altmühl Valley

    a rare and nice 40cm Solnhofenamia, uncommon fish in excellent preservation

    © fossils worldwide

  25. rocket

    Mesobelostonum deperditum

    From the album: Fossils from the Plattenkalke of the Altmühl Valley

    insect are not common in this region, they are not easy to be seen and to identify. A rare and hugh one is the water bug Mesobelostonum deperditum, this is around 3 cm

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