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  1. Shellseeker

    Sanibel Shell Show

    There are frequently events to help tourists spend money. The Shell Show certainly qualifies. I went this morning. Here are some of the displays that I enjoyed.. Some from Sanibel, Key West, Bahamas, Morocco, Senegal.... This sheller has been traveling... A close_up Sanibel and Fort Myers Beach took a direct hit mid_afternoon from Hurricane Ian. It destroyed 98% of mangroves (Black, White, Red) in the vicinity. So far, only the Red mangroves are starting to recover near the Marriott. I used to collect modern shells, now more of fossil shells and I do not buy shells anymore....
  2. CarrieB

    Tail Spines?

    These all appear the same to me, and I think that makes all of them stingray tail spines? [It comes from an estate collection I acquired last year, all unidentified but labeled as coming from Edisto Beach, SC on dates ranging from the late 1970s through the early 1990s. ]
  3. Ptychodus04

    Stingray Prep

    I just got started on a stingray from the Green River Formation. It’s in a few pieces but I believe it is all there. Time will tell. Here’s the 1st section. As prep is beginning. 6 hours in: Time lapse IMG_1135.mov 17 hours in: The rays are so delicate, I’m limited to working around 3 hours max in one session before I need a break to rest my hand and mind. Any minor slip means that part of the specimen is destroyed and its 100% scribe work. No easy air abrasive on this guy, it would blow the specimen right off the matrix! It’s definitely a high intensity prep.
  4. Mjq8

    Stingray dermal denticle?

    Phosphate mines of central florida. Eroded stingray dermal denticle?
  5. With my wife still out of town for a couple of weeks and the kids back in college, It somewhat frees up my routine of family life and I get to be spontaneous with my schedule. So a second road trip up from Salt Lake, UT to Kemmerer, Wy. A beautiful drive of 155 miles which supplies enough scenery to enjoy every mile. Red rock canyons, granite canyons, terrain change for high mountain desert to higher elevation, very treeless and windy with cooler temps. And definitely less crowded! The quarries are at 7300 feet above sea level which makes a bit of an affect on the human body coming from lower elevations, even my altitude of 4500' ASL. Upon arrival at a different quarry than my first excursion I felt ready to go at it. The crew gave me the orientation- the do's and dont's and set me free. And off I went into the splitting rows of rock. About 10 vehicles with solos or couples were already on site by 9:45am when I started my session. As expected, the common finds were knightia and diplomystus with a few mioplosus, cockerelites and priscacara found now and then among the fossil enthusiasts. I chose a 4 hour session so I got busy. Three hours into it I realized I wasn't needing a bathroom break and began to feel gassed out. Dehydration just kicked my backside. Stupid me. I took a break and started drinking and eating some fuel. I slowed down for the last hour but was still lagging. My storage rack was full and another pile beside the "harder" rock plies away from the easy stuff were ready to load. Both rock supplies were pretty much equally productive. One was just harder = big hammer, big chisel to get them started cleaving. The highlights of the trip: Being there!, seeing families and couples enjoying their adventures, meeting a capable, attentive manager & crew of the quarry, the squeals from the kids who found a fish!, talking with the other fossil hunters, and off course finding more than plenty of fish to take home. Oh, and two stingrays and a gar fish were found while I was there. Not by me ...but everyone celebrated. Especially, the second stingray found by a lady in her early 90's. She said she had waited 30 years to do this. The lowest points: time raced by which led to my bout with dehydration. One plate broke on the way one = fixable, but as you can guess right on the fish, and not taking many photos, I ate an apple, PB&J sandwich, two Capri Suns, a soda ( yeah, bad for dehydration, oh well ) and a Gatorade, Then stopped in town and bought Advil, another soda, ( bad Steve ) a Cranberry juice and felt the rehydration take effect. While in town I followed up with a recommendation by Kris -aka - Ptychodus04 to stop by In Stone Fossil shop. So glad I did. A total ball out of the park homerun. The proprietor was incredible and we hit it off. Especially as soon as I mentioned Kris from Texas. She lit up with enthusiasm and praises about him. And there on the wall was " The Bird"! WOW! is all I can say after having seen the prepping thread images here on the forum, there it was less than a foot away. Amazing prep work in every aspect of the bird. The hostess said let's get a picture of you with it. Okay...I was dirty and tired still recovering from the dehydration and nausea. Being in the shade and down almost 500' in altitude helped a lot. The Bird The Gar Kris prepped. Incredible presentation...I think he said he logged 107.5 hours on it.. And the Gar fish proper without the derelict old guy running on steam and adrenaline...lol The palm fronds were among my favorites in this candy store. Amazing! A table top. A massive 45 X 67 inch gorgeous Sabalites powellii, palm frond. And to top off the visit/tour of the fossil shop, the proprietor, out of the blue says. Let me show you something. Since you know who Kris is ( i clarified that our relationship is via an internet forum about fossils, not a face to face personal acquaintance). She said that's okay, follow me. Through a couple of doors and I'm in the prep room and there in front of me is the 13 foot crocodile on the table. Wow! this beast is insane! Looks ready to bite your head off, I mentioned that the bone is like milk and dark chocolate in color and she said we call it mahogany. It does look like the mahogany obsidian chunks I have in my rock garden...only in the shape of a prehistoric reptile. There were chomp marks on its mouth and scutes on its back. Something bigger and badder got ahold of it at some point. Probably a bigger croc or mating partner. croc. A view into the air abrasion box. Foreleg. And...the Gar fish and a stingray found at the quarry. Well that's a wrap on this part. I gotta get to the airport to pick up a daughter flying in from Nash-Vegas. All my finds are in the man cave and I'll start going through them soon enough and add a few pics of my finds. I have one more free weekend coming up....wonder what I should do for 3 days?...hmmm. Go hunt Ammonites, Trilobites or Green River fishies? Steve
  6. The cenomanian sediments of Lebanon contains three Cyclobatis-species. The long-tailed C. major, the rare C. tuberculatus and the more common C. oligodactylus. One more might be possible, there is a stingray known with a very short spine, shorter than the others
  7. Desrosiers1718

    Stingray tooth plate?

    Is this a stingray tooth plate? Not sure where it was found seller is from NC . thank you
  8. Hi Everyone, I will be grateful for helping me with identification of shark and stingrays teeth found in Korytnica clays in Poland (miocene-badenian age). I'm searching for genus and species names rather than common names (for example "Galeocerdo aduncus" instead of "tiger shark") but every information will be useful. Thank you!
  9. The Mississippi River has (in one form or another since the shrinking of the Western Interior Seaway) been flowing for 70 Million Years. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/geological-history-mississippi-river-180975509/ This may be more of a current biological rather than paleontological question, but I'm curious about the origin of the current chondricthyan diversity in the Mississippi River? Now a fair amount of you might be confused when I say "Chondricthyan diversity in the Mississippi River", but this is truly a cool case of truth stranger than fiction. The most famous species in this case is the Bull Shark (Carcharhinus leucas), a requiem shark able to tolerate both fresh and saltwater that had been confirmed to be recorded as far up the Mississippi River as Alton Illinois in 1935. Image credit: https://www.thetelegraph.com/insider/article/Researchers-affirm-two-bull-shark-sightings-16308838.php Shell, R., & Gardner, N. (2021, July 1). Movement of the Bull Shark (carcharhinus leucas) in the upper Mississippi River Basin, North America. Marine and Fishery Sciences (MAFIS). Retrieved February 12, 2023, from https://ojs.inidep.edu.ar/index.php/mafis/article/view/181 Shell, Ryan & Gardner, Nicholas & Hrabik, Robert. (2022). Updates on putative bull shark (Carcharhinus leucas) occurrences in the upper Mississippi River Basin of North America. 36. 10.47193/mafis.3612023010101. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/362847015_Updates_on_putative_bull_shark_Carcharhinus_leucas_occurrences_in_the_upper_Mississippi_River_Basin_of_North_America But these are not the only cases of Chondricthyans found in the Mississippi River as shown by the reports and articles here: http://chnep.wateratlas.usf.edu/upload/documents/Essential_habitat_of.pdf (Specifically pg. 10) Rafinesque, C.S. (1820) Ichthyologia ohiensis, or Natural history of the fishes inhabiting the river Ohio and its tributary streams, preceded by a physical description of the Ohio and its branches. W.G. Hunt, Lexington, Kentucky, 90 pp. https://doi.org/10.5962/bhl.title.6892 Jordan, D.S. and Evermann, B.W. (1896). The fishes of North and Middle America. Bulletin of the US National Museum 47:1-1240. https://www.actionnews5.com/story/12943330/memphis-woman-photographs-stingray-in-mississippi-river/ Today, the Mississippi River is one of the most industrialized rivers in the world, with many locks and dams in places that previously allowed Chondricthyans to enter as upstream as Alton Illinois. This is a phenomena that unfortunately is still occurring both in the US and across the world today from places as far away and China and Brazil, Pakistan to Russia, and Cambodia and Australia, disrupting natural river flows that make regions more prone to sever flooding effects and causing a terrifying decline in large bodied freshwater fish that migrant frequently across a whole rivers lengths (and also contributing to the Human induced climate crisis as all the dead animals that pile up at the bottom of these dams produce high amounts of methane). This phenomenon is also something I must add we as a species needs to address urgently and decisively by switching more to more renewable power sources like solar, install fish ladders and workable passages for fish to go around the dams, or legally breach the dams safely whenever possible. But not to get off track here, I'm still curious about the paleontological date of chondricthyans from the Mississippi River. How many fossils of brackish water sharks and rays have been found in the areas of the Mississippi River, was there a historically larger or smaller amount of chondricthyans in the Mississippi during the Late Pleistocene-Early Holocene, and why isn't (at least that I know of) the chondricthyans diversity in the Mississippi River even historically been as high as places as the Amazon river in Brazil? What do you guys think?
  10. A whirlwind week... I was visiting my daughter for father's day weekend. On Thursday, the Museum of Natural History, Lincoln Memorial, the Vietnam black wall. Lots of excitement and I was truly wasted by the time we got back to Union Station. There is so much to see... hours does not make a dent.... Everyone would take different photos... I took these in the initial Galleries... Lamarck's Carinaria... New fauna... This is a model, many exhibits are the real thing.... Looking to the ceilings...A Right Whale and a Basilosaurus Lots of Crinoids.... I had thought that @minnbuckeye had captured a few of these, but maybe not.... On _ward and up ward , more galleries to visit Although really small in size, I was impressed by an impression on the rock.. This Smilodon fatalis also got my attention, How about the "sheath" over each claw.... Does any TFF member have one of those ? Between Galleries, you see some transitional modern items.. There are complete floors dedicated to modern mammals... Never got there... but what do we have here? And once again, on to other floors , other galleries.... x A Stingray from Lebanon, capturing an image from the Cretaceous. A Flightless Bird.. I guess related to Titanis walleri, another revelation for me Marine Mammal Definitely large tusks and then Unitatherium.... look at those sabers.... Fantastic time.. learned lots of new things just walking around, taking photos.. If you love fossils, definitely a bucket list item.. I figure I saw about 4% of the exhibits available... and in the last transition space.....60 foot model I'll share one other experience.. I visited the Baltimore Aquarium and stopped by Faidley's seafood market and purchased Chesapeake Bay Oysters for $2 each.. I love seafood, and my daughter , Crystal, has excellent culinary skills... Mackerel, Cod, Salmon, Shrimp, Crawfish, Abalone, but the absolute best were the Oysters Rockerfeller... Raw, Drago, Rockereller Bon appetit....Crystal saved the shells of both oyster and abalone
  11. Fossil-Hound

    Kemmerer Wyoming

    American Fossil Quarry on Saturday was fun. Found my first stingray. Super happy. Another patron found another ray fairly close to me an hour later. Very rare to find two in one day.
  12. I wish this was a post to celebrate an incredible accomplishment but instead I am extremely scared that through my potential carelessness, the likely greatest find of my life may be forever changed. I just a few days ago on 6/6 found this stingray fossil at American Fossil Quarry in Wyoming just and was able to keep it because it was at that location. I have been on a road trip and have been storing it in a plastic tote bin with bubble wrap and then fish fossils underneath wrapped in paper towel. I took the lid off for a prolonged period to air out the bin and I think this was a grave mistake and let in humidity. The paper towel was all heavily damp and many of the fish fossils had very obvious signs of mold/mildew growth and discoloration. And now I fear the stingray may show some as well. I desperately need advice on repair and preservation asap. I really need help trying to fix this mess as I’m still on the road for another week. It may not be super obvious in the images but it is the areas that appear a grayish color in contrast to the orangeish brown. The last image is the closest picture I took on the day it was found to show any potential change. This was a lifetime find and I will be crushed if I’ve caused irreparable damage. Please help. Any advice in repair and preservation is greatly appreciated. And I’m sorry to all those that see this and are disappointed in the poor handling of this rare piece, I’m more than disappointed in myself if things are what they seem. And if by a miracle the stingray is perfectly fine then any advice on the fish fossils would be great.
  13. Shellseeker

    Some finds

    Out with friends, going to a Miocene site that always is challenging for me to go and return. It is a Miocene site because the large majority of fauna found live during that era. It did not disappoint. I started in the 1st sieve with a Meg, somewhat distressed and puncture marks from a bite during a feeding frenzy... Note the 3 bite marks on the lower edge. This is my 4th such Meg There were many finds but one certainly rarer in the Peace River than Megs is a lower Mako in good shape, with a lighting strike on the labial side.. This is my 3rd of this size in 15 years. So, what about the request for Identifications. Here is one... This Dolphin Tooth has not been identified for Florida.... and certainly not for species.. Last time I found it , we discussed Harry's GREAT picture that is the best identification out there for teeth that look like this....If someone has a good research paper on Kentriodontidae teeth that matches these two teeth I have found, please point me to it... Here is my previous version: Here was a thread that asked for an ID on a similar tooth from Maryland, but the ID was "Dolphin" tooth... So finally, something to ID.. To show how my luck was holding, I went over to a pile of discard rocks from a previous hunter of this site . Unbelievably this was sitting on top... I have never seen one like this... Th first photo seems 3/4 Stingray denticle and 1/4 trilobite. I have plenty of these that are flat on the bottom, and found 2 or 3 today. But this is unusual for me in Florida. Is this shape common in Maryland or North Carolina ? It almost looks like a druzy or silification in the center of this last photo.. Thanks for looking.
  14. fossil king

    Stingray from bone valley boneyard

    Does anyone know how large this ray might have been?
  15. Found these on vacation in Virginia. Are they the same type of ray despite the different look ?
  16. Fossil_Adult

    Purse state park

    This is probably one of my best days out in the Paleocene I’ve had yet. I went to purse state park today and upon arriving, there were at least 6 cars. The beach was flooded with people, and boot prints were all over. It seemed well traversed. The tide was also coming in, with some of the beach inaccessible without wadders or high boots. It was slow going on the first half of the day but the second half couldn’t have been better. I was finding one stunning fossils after the next. This was a pretty good outing, and I will have to return as soon as possible. Here are all the finds: Everything pictured: I found a few sand tiger teeth, a back bone of some kind, 2 pretty nice sized Otodus teeth, and a complete ray mouth plate! This was a really good find I am extremely happy about this. Only a foot of beach had been exposed and I was finding a lot on these recently kicked up cobbles. Nobody had been around and the surf must have mixed up the gravel to the top of the beach where it was redeposited. A ton of people were on the beach, and there was a huge tide coming in, and this managed to be one of my best days in the Aquia. Closer up: A really nice little hound sharks tooth. These are my favorite tiny sharks teeth to find here. There is also a couple of sand tigers, a scapula (?) of some kind (crocodile? Turtle?), 2 nice Otodus teeth, and a show stopping ray plate to top it all off. This is my first complete large ray plate. I have a couple other small ones but this one is huge. Flipped: The ray plate is so cool. I am very happy that I came at high tide I think I will start doing that more often now. Lots of finds to be made! Ray Plate and Otodus: This was such a good day. I think the Aquia formation might be one of my favorites. I want to go out to Virginia at some point to collect the Aquia it’s been a while and I know there’s good stuff there. Thank you guys for reading this! I really had fun out there with a parking lot full of cars.
  17. TheCreekendWarrior

    The Creekend Warrior Collection

    Been at it for about a year now and I try to hit the creeks at least twice/month if I can help it. The "loose" pics are either newer finds that haven't made their way into the display yet, or finds that have their own display. Most of these were rescued from the Gainesville area. Some are from the Peace River & Joshua Creek, as well as Manasota, Caspersen, Venice & Fort Clinch beaches. I was also lucky enough to discover a previously unknown spot VERY close to home, while scouting one day! Dr. Hulbert (w/ UF) confirmed it is a new spot, but was reluctant to check it out as none of my initial finds were extinct species... I have since found horse teeth at that location and can't wait for water levels to go back down!!! Hoping to add a few new species to my collection on my upcoming trip to GMR & one of the Summerville creeks (not sure which one yet but would love to find my first Angi & GW)... the GW in my pics was actually found by my Grandfather in Panama in the 70s! Thanks for looking : )
  18. I'm so sorry, but I have no location since it was bought in a store :[ It measures 70x15x02 (mm) Any guesses on what it could be?
  19. Shellseeker

    Hubbel and Barb

    Out Yesterday, Miocene Bone Valley.. Normally I find small broken and whole shark teeth, stingray teeth, barbs, and dermal denticles and an occasional prize. This was no different, The prizes were small Megs... Almost everything has a bluish tint.. I like the FAT roots on these Megs, and I especially liked this one which is my 1st whole Hubble Meg. I have been hunting 14 years. These are not common. Here are some very nice Hubble Megs from Harry's Gallary In additional to sharing the Meg, a question... Do any Sting ray Barbs not have side serrations/barbs ? Just wondering if all vistages have been worn off the bottom barb?
  20. J.D.

    Bonnet Ray?

    Can someone confirm or deny whether this is from a bonnet ray? Found over the weekend near Stratford Hall in VA - along the Potomac. Thanks!
  21. Hello, a nice discovery today, this 4 cm stingray barb found in zanclean from the South of France This is the first time I have found this kind of fossil. Is it possible to determine the exact name of the animal? Thanks in advance
  22. fossilhunter21

    Ray teeth ID

    I recently recieved some Aurora, NC (Lee Creek) micro matrix from, @thelivingdead531. And what an awesome gift it was! But I am having trouble with trying to ID the stingray teeth I found. So I thought I would ask my fellow TFF members if they might be able to help. Thanks in advance. Ps. I can take more pictures if I need to. -@fossilhunter21
  23. ClearLake

    Dasyatis sp.

    From the album: Gainesville Florida Microscopic Miocene

    This is a tooth from the Stingray Dasyatis. It is found on a male stingray during mating season as the swept back design is more efficient than the normal tooth for clasping the female ray during mating.
  24. Tyrannosaurus-wreck

    Fossil id (Calvert MD)

    Hi! First, thank you to everyone who responded to my older post asking for fossil hunting tips- I used as many as I could and I found some great stuff! Here's what I found and can't ID myself from my latest trip to Flagponds (Calvert MD). I was thinking 11 might be snaggletooth shark, and 19 and 20 looked like they might be from some kind of white shark though I'm not entirely sure? In addition to those I'm especially interested in identifying 1, 3, 4, 5, 8-9, and 13 but haven't been able to so far. I'd appreciate any help identifying these and the other teeth I have pictured! 36-48 are possible bones and bone fragments which I thought might have some potential for ID. If different angles or views are needed for any of these I'm happy to take more pics! Lighting in my house isn't ideal so these are the best I could do without taking pics of each bone/tooth individually. Oh they posted all out of order, sorry about that!
  25. Finding Florida

    Found in Peace River 3

    Help with id
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