FossilNerd Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Monday morning was dreary here in Central Kentucky. The sky was cloudy grey, and the rain was sputtering off and on. I didn't let that dampen my spirits though. I had planned to go fossil hunting and nothing was going to ruin my day! I grabbed my hunting gear, a cup of coffee, dropped my daughter off at daycare, and headed out. I arrived at the Upper Ordovician (Drakes Formation) spot that I had found this year. The last time I visited this place I didn't have time to really enjoy myself. It was more of a smash and grab. A rush to see if anything was actually there and to grab what I could. This time I was determined to spend more time at my new found hunting grounds. Not even a little wind and rain would stop me. After about a 45 minute drive I arrived at the road cut. The last time I visited, I looked through the scree at the base of the cut and found items that, over time, had washed down from the rain. Many of these pieces didn't fair well with the 5-6 meter drop. After a few minutes of looking at the strata of the cut, I determined that the most fossiliferous layers were at the top 2 meters or so. I decided that I needed to check out the top instead of the bottom. I'm glad I did! After a short walk and hike up the gentlest slope I could find, I made it to the top. This is what I found. A loose layer of dirt (well mud since it was raining...) with coral heads and fragments everywhere! All different shapes and sizes. whole specimens just a few cm across to ones that where half a meter or more. 10 The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it. -Neil deGrasse Tyson Everyone you will ever meet knows something you don't. -Bill Nye (The Science Guy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamalama Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Congrats! You just found an exposure of the Bardstown reef! The reef is rife with coral heads primarily of the genus Foerstephylum sp. but occasionally Tetradium sp. @Herb has some pics of his finds from other exposures of this marker bed: 6 -Dave __________________________________________________ Geologists on the whole are inconsistent drivers. When a roadcut presents itself, they tend to lurch and weave. To them, the roadcut is a portal, a fragment of a regional story, a proscenium arch that leads their imaginations into the earth and through the surrounding terrain. - John McPheeIf I'm going to drive safely, I can't do geology. - John McPheeCheck out my Blog for more fossils I've found: http://viewsofthemahantango.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldigger Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Icky weather = less competition! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilNerd Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 After I got over my shock and excitement I looked closer. Taking a look at the ground past the coral revealed a more diverse group of fauna than what was visible at first glance. I noticed brachiopod fragments and solitary rugose coral. I quickly got down on my knees and started to collect. I collected many brachiopods. Mainly species of Vinlandostrophia (Platystrophia). Most likely they were Vinlandstrophia (Platystrophia) ponderosa as that is the most common of the species. Although their are other species found in the Upper Ordovician of Kentucky. These are commonly mistaken for Spirifers as they have a similar shape. This one is probably a Hebertella sp. They are also common Ordovician brachiopods and found in the Drakes. Although Vinlandostrophia (Platystrophia) sp. were far more common at this location. 6 The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it. -Neil deGrasse Tyson Everyone you will ever meet knows something you don't. -Bill Nye (The Science Guy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilNerd Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 Solitary rugose coral were fairly common as well. 4 1 The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it. -Neil deGrasse Tyson Everyone you will ever meet knows something you don't. -Bill Nye (The Science Guy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilNerd Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 It started raining harder so I wasn't able to get many more pictures in the field. Here are a few more that I took once I got home. Sorry the lighting isn't the best. I played with a couple of lamps, but never could quite get the lighting right. Even following @Fossildude19's famous hand drawn diagram! I was also able to find a few gastropods. I've only found one other gastropod steinkern ever before so these are great! Here are two small coral heads I collected that also had a brachiopod just sitting pretty right on top. These were some of my favorite finds of the day. I also found some tubular sponges that I am very excited about. Thanks to all the TFF members who helped me with the ID. I won't repost the pictures here. You can see them in the ID section... Overall it was a great trip! I think I have found my new favorite hunting spot, and something to focus my personal research and study on. This is a place that I plan on visiting many times in the future. Rain or shine! 7 The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it. -Neil deGrasse Tyson Everyone you will ever meet knows something you don't. -Bill Nye (The Science Guy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Rico Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 There is some atmosphere and presage in them there clouds. You had a good days hunting. Btw your photos are pretty good. cheers Bobby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilNerd Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 41 minutes ago, Shamalama said: Congrats! You just found an exposure of the Bardstown reef! The reef is rife with coral heads primarily of the genus Foerstephylum sp. but occasionally Tetradium sp. @Herb has some pics of his finds from other exposures of this marker bed: Thanks! I suspected that I was in the Bardstown reef. I’ll definitely check out Herb’s pics. The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it. -Neil deGrasse Tyson Everyone you will ever meet knows something you don't. -Bill Nye (The Science Guy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilNerd Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bobby Rico said: There is some atmosphere and presage in them there clouds. You had a good days hunting. Btw your photos are pretty good. cheers Bobby I actually thought of you when taking the picture of the sky. Reminded me of one of your awesome painting. 1 The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it. -Neil deGrasse Tyson Everyone you will ever meet knows something you don't. -Bill Nye (The Science Guy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilNerd Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 46 minutes ago, caldigger said: Icky weather = less competition! Very true! I had a couple of people honk, but none stopped by. Knowing me, they mistook me for a plumber while bent over looking at the ground. The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it. -Neil deGrasse Tyson Everyone you will ever meet knows something you don't. -Bill Nye (The Science Guy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Wonderful finds! I think the solitary coral is Grewingkia rustica and the tubey things are probably the stromatoporoid Aulacera cylindrica. I don't think the brachs are Vinlandostrophia ponderosa. One or more of the other species, i'd guess. Yes to Hebertella occidentalis, IMHO. Check out Loxoplocus and Liospira for the gastropods. 5 Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilNerd Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, Tidgy's Dad said: Wonderful finds! I think the solitary coral is Grewingkia rustica and the tubey things are probably the stromatoporoid Aulacera cylindrica. I don't think the brachs are Vinlandostrophia ponderosa. One or more of the other species, i'd guess. Yes to Hebertella occidentalis, IMHO. Check out Loxoplocus and Liospira for the gastropods. Thanks Adam! I thought those rugose might be a species of Grewingkia, but wasn’t sure enough to mention it. I’m still trying to figure out the subtle differences between the Vinlandostrophia species. I really like brachs, but they are so hard to ID to species sometimes. Aulacera seemed to be the general consensus on the tubey thing. Thanks for the input! Thanks for the ID on the Hebertella and the gastropod suggestions. 1 The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it. -Neil deGrasse Tyson Everyone you will ever meet knows something you don't. -Bill Nye (The Science Guy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy B Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Love those bivalves!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Nice finds! Well done! 1 Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilNerd Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, Andy B said: Love those bivalves!! Thanks! Small correction though... Those are brachiopods and not bivalves. The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it. -Neil deGrasse Tyson Everyone you will ever meet knows something you don't. -Bill Nye (The Science Guy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy B Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 11 minutes ago, FossilNerd said: Thanks! Small correction though... Those are brachiopods and not bivalves. Wow, I presumed by the size. Thanks for the correction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMert Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Nice report and pictures:) It feels like being there in person 1 My sites & reports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandpa Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Great report. Wayne; I felt like I was there with you. Love the finds. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranzBernhard Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Thanks for taking us along! I like especially the in-situ shots. Seem to be some easy pickings there of very, very nice fossils! Reminds me somewhat of the infamous St. Leon roadcut. Your photos are very good! Have you tried a black background? Some black fabric? Franz Bernhard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey P Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Nice report and pictures. Though the roadcut did not appear familiar to me the fauna you collected is similar to ones I collected about three years ago in the company of Herb. I have two large corals from the Bardstown Reef flanking both sides of my front door. I would love to return there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilNerd Posted December 11, 2019 Author Share Posted December 11, 2019 20 minutes ago, FranzBernhard said: Thanks for taking us along! I like especially the in-situ shots. Seem to be some easy pickings there of very, very nice fossils! Reminds me somewhat of the infamous St. Leon roadcut. Your photos are very good! Have you tried a black background? Some black fabric? Franz Bernhard Thanks Franz! St. Leon is on my bucket list. It’s only a few more hours drive to get there from the road cut I was at. Maybe one day. I have not tried a black background, but mainly because I need a new ruler. The only one I have right now is clear with black lettering. You can’t see it at all with a black background. 1 The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it. -Neil deGrasse Tyson Everyone you will ever meet knows something you don't. -Bill Nye (The Science Guy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erose Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Vinlandostrophia ponderosa probably doesn't show up as high as the Drakes Fm. But, yeah there are quite a few species listed for the Cincinnatian Series. Some are obvious and some are definitely restricted in range but way too many overlap and only subtle diagnostic differences. I once compiled the names of all the listed Cincinnatian species (everything I could find in the literature) and it was close to 1400 names. Many were synonymous but after I had sorted the names out and boiled it down to the most current names it was still close to 1000. I have since heard numbers between 750-900 for legit species BUT folks are still finding new and undescribed fauna. I'm in desperate need of a trip home to Ohio....got me a really bad jones.... In the mean time keep the hunting and ID? posts coming. I can at least get in some vicarious satisfaction.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilNerd Posted December 11, 2019 Author Share Posted December 11, 2019 41 minutes ago, Jeffrey P said: Nice report and pictures. Though the roadcut did not appear familiar to me the fauna you collected is similar to ones I collected about three years ago in the company of Herb. I have two large corals from the Bardstown Reef flanking both sides of my front door. I would love to return there. Let me know the next time you will be down this way Jeff. I’d be glad to take you. Maybe you can get two more large corals for you back door! The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it. -Neil deGrasse Tyson Everyone you will ever meet knows something you don't. -Bill Nye (The Science Guy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilNerd Posted December 11, 2019 Author Share Posted December 11, 2019 35 minutes ago, erose said: Some are obvious and some are definitely restricted in range but way too many overlap and only subtle diagnostic differences. It’s very confusing and frustrating at times. Then again, ID to species level is obviously not my strong point... 44 minutes ago, erose said: I once compiled the names of all the listed Cincinnatian species (everything I could find in the literature) and it was close to 1400 names. Many were synonymous but after I had sorted the names out and boiled it down to the most current names it was still close to 1000. I have since heard numbers between 750-900 for legit species BUT folks are still finding new and undescribed fauna. You did what?! 45 minutes ago, erose said: I'm in desperate need of a trip home to Ohio....got me a really bad jones.... In the mean time keep the hunting and ID? posts coming. I can at least get in some vicarious satification.... I’ll do my best to make you feel at home! 1 The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it. -Neil deGrasse Tyson Everyone you will ever meet knows something you don't. -Bill Nye (The Science Guy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monica Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Congrats on the successful (albeit rainy) hunt! I especially like the gastropods, too (I'm generally not very lucky when it comes to finding them, either ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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