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Judging from the matrix, it looks a lot like the Moroccan pieces we typically see.

Hopefully one of the other members that deal in that category will pipe in with further information.

You will likely be asked for some closer up pictures of all sides.

Was this purchased?  If so, the dealer had no information on it?

 

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Do you have a locality were it was found.   Can you take a closeup of the teeth and lower jaw, I suspect they have been composited.  Matrix looks like Ouled Abdoun Basin

One candidate from Eocene of Morocco 

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https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Maroccosuchus-zennaroi-Jonet-Wouters-1977-Ypresian-Ouled-Abdoun-Basin-Morocco_fig2_262771697

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Moved to FOSSIL ID.

 

@Brammer

 

Welcome to the Forum. 

Please refrain from posting the same fossil multiple times. 

One post in the correct sub-forum is plenty. ;) 

 

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3 hours ago, Troodon said:

Do you have a locality were it was found.   Can you take a closeup of the teeth and lower jaw, I suspect they have been composited.  Matrix looks like Ouled Abdoun Basin

One candidate from Eocene of Morocco 

Screenshot_20191215-044341_Drive.jpg.d465c6fe80101d07371e6623d913ca41.jpg

 

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Maroccosuchus-zennaroi-Jonet-Wouters-1977-Ypresian-Ouled-Abdoun-Basin-Morocco_fig2_262771697

I do not have the locality where it was found. Do you have any idea how much this could be worth ?

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Sorry Brammer as per Forum rules,  no valuations/ appraisals are given on here.  

You can look up similar items on auction sites for judging what they may fetch on the market.

Keep in mind there are a lot of composite skulls or just out right fakes being sold so scrutinize very carefully.

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The teeth Im looking at are composited.  Jaws are typically not found with skulls so its most likely a composite.  If its moroccan they can be found at the Tucson fossil show in Feb 

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Those teeth all look like croc teeth to me. Mosasaur teeth look different. Prognathodon teeth are more slender and conical, even Prognathodon currii, which has pretty fat teeth has more slender ones than these. And they also do not fit with most Globidens teeth, which are fatter than these. Only some specific teeth of Globidens around the front of the jaw are this pointed. And I doubt that ALL the teeth are anterior Globidens teeth.

 

We need better close up photos of the teeth to be sure if they are composited or not imo. This photo is not adequate. But they do look like the correct teeth. If it's a composite, it's one of the better ones.

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1 minute ago, LordTrilobite said:

Those teeth all look like croc teeth to me. Mosasaur teeth look different. Prognathodon teeth are more slender and conical, even Prognathodon currii, which has pretty fat teeth has more slender ones than these. And they also do not fit with most Globidens teeth, which are fatter than these. Only some specific teeth of Globidens around the front of the jaw are this pointed. And I doubt that ALL the teeth are anterior Globidens teeth.

 

We need better close up photos of the teeth to be sure if they are composited or not imo. This photo is not adequate. But they do look like the correct teeth. If it's a composite, it's one of the better ones.

Thank you 

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This skull looks odd to me.

It is asymmetrical, which is a red flag to me. :unsure:

 

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19 hours ago, Brammer said:

Thank you 

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Sorry but that's nowhere near good enough of a photo. We'll need much better lighting and closer up to properly see the teeth.

 

 

The skull does look off a bit. My main issue is that the lower jaw is a different colour. I think this "might" be a mostly complete skull and mostly complete jaw that have been composited together.

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Its  Marrocosuchus zenaroi (Crocodilus spenceri)

 ,phosphate deposits Morocco , the teeth are correct and from that species of croc ,absolutely not Mosasaur ,

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