PODIGGER Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I have been lucky to find pieces of an ivory tusk (mammoth or mastodon) in the Peace River approx. 2 weeks ago. I have taken some photos to show what it looked like when found, two after consolidating showing how some large pieces fit together and then photos of the many loose pieces. I will have a nice jigsaw puzzle to work on once I consolidate the remaining pieces. I am hoping for suggestions on what glue or adhesive to use to try and rebuild the tusk. I have researched options that included super glue, gorilla glue and other adhesives. Which is best and easiest to work with? Photo #1 - tusk when found Photo #2 - three largest pieces consolidated with acetone and vinac. Photo #3 = tusk pieces properly aligned . Photos #4 & #5 - puzzle pieces to be consolidated and used to rebuild the tusk as best I can I will post progression photos and the final product when done. Thanks for any help on the adhesive/glue question. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digit Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 If you have consolidated with acetone and vinac, you might wish to try making a stronger solution (more vinac less acetone) to make a thick glue. That would then be compatible with the material you've already used on this piece. Looking forward to the images throughout the process. Cheers. -Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PODIGGER Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 Thanks, Ken. I'll see if I can get the mixture right and give it a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptychodus04 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 36 minutes ago, PODIGGER said: Thanks, Ken. I'll see if I can get the mixture right and give it a try. 5 parts acetone to 1 part PVA results in a nice, thick glue. It takes a long time to fully dissolve (my experience has been a couple days). I like to periodically stir the goo with a steel rod to help speed the process. Regards, Kris Global Paleo Services, LLC https://globalpaleoservices.com http://instagram.com/globalpaleoservices http://instagram.com/kris.howe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digit Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I've heard about putting the solid plastic bits into a piece of cheese cloth (like a boquet garni) and tying a string onto it so that it may be suspended in the middle of the acetone. That seems to help it dissolve quicker than in a big lump on the bottom of the jar you are mixing it in. Cheers. -Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PODIGGER Posted January 23, 2020 Author Share Posted January 23, 2020 Thank you gentleman. I will work on getting this right and keep you posted on the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptychodus04 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 19 hours ago, digit said: I've heard about putting the solid plastic bits into a piece of cheese cloth (like a boquet garni) and tying a string onto it so that it may be suspended in the middle of the acetone. That seems to help it dissolve quicker than in a big lump on the bottom of the jar you are mixing it in. I would think this would turn into a holy mess with the high viscosity adhesive he would be making. A 1:5 ratio produces a solution with a viscosity like cold honey. Regards, Kris Global Paleo Services, LLC https://globalpaleoservices.com http://instagram.com/globalpaleoservices http://instagram.com/kris.howe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PODIGGER Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 I plan on trying to use the old fashioned stirring method to get a good consistency for the adhesive step. Thus far I have consolidated all the exterior, or "bark" pieces and started to try and fit them together. I have been able to find how several small pieces fit in, making some progress. The way it is going it appears I have parts of two or possibly four separate tusks. The photos show how some of the pieces have been aligned. The box they are sitting in is 17 1/2" x 25 1/2". I have included some rulers for size perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PODIGGER Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 After seeing how the photos appear opted I thought rotating them my help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilNerd Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 That looks like one heck of a puzzle you have there. Good luck! I’m anxious to see your progress. The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it. -Neil deGrasse Tyson Everyone you will ever meet knows something you don't. -Bill Nye (The Science Guy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruger9a Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 21 minutes ago, FossilNerd said: That looks like one heck of a puzzle you have there. Good luck! I’m anxious to see your progress. Me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PODIGGER Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 Thank you gentlemen. I am going to glue together all that I can and try to create a display with the outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PODIGGER Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 Latest update on the puzzle. I have managed to attach most of the stray pieces and have come up with one large tusk. Currently, all pieces in the center tusk piece (picture below) are glued together making a tusk section approximately 14" long X 7" wide. The curvature of this section made it very difficult to get the pieces back together. The pieces are so small and fragile there was no way to clamp anything together. After experimenting with a couple of different super glue/instant bond products I ended up using DAP RAPIDFUSE all purpose adhesive. This adhesive set in 30 seconds and cured in 30 minutes. The large piece is being supported underneath with a soft easily moldable kids modeling clay type product. It is inside plastic bags for now to prevent it from adhering to the tusk. After getting this put together I was left with 5 small miscellaneous pieces I can't match up yet, along with two large sections I managed to fit back together. The larger piece above the blue ruler consists of 4 separate pieces glued back together. The large piece below the silver ruler is made up of 6 separate pieces I was able to fit together. I can't find a way that these two can attach to the main large tusk section. This is my first attempt at any fossil reconstruction and I can only hope the final product will look good and stay in one piece. Still a work in progress! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digit Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 More fun than a 1000 piece puzzle. Too bad you can't just start with the straight edge pieces and then use the picture on the box as a guide to put this puzzle back together again. If you succeed with this piece and are looking for some contract work, I hear that Mr. H. Dumpty is looking for some help. Cheers. -Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PODIGGER Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 Ken - It has been interesting. A couple of times I thought I was done with all the pieces that would fit together. Then I would start playing with pieces along different edges and find one slide into place. I am missing a lot of surface fragments and interior dentin. I just ordered some PaleoBond Sculp Hardener and Resin to fill in the surface gaps. Depending on how that works I'll figure out what is best to use for backing it all up to make a display out of it. Does Mr Dumpty have insurance? If not I'll need a cash deposit! Jim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PODIGGER Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 So, after a couple of weeks of getting this back together as much as I could I ordered some Paleobond to fill in the missing pieces. As I was about to start I got input from several people who suggested I should leave the tusk in it's current rebuilt state without adding any of the Paleobond. The consensus was that the efforts at restoration would not be worth changing the natural state of the piece as recovered. After much thought I agreed that leaving the tusk as is from here would be the best way to go. I am currently attempting to design and build a display stand that will support the tusk in its current form. When completed I will post photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digit Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Looking forward to seeing the finished product. Cheers. -Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PODIGGER Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 Finished the stand and have put together some pictures of the display. First the stand - Next a couple of photos of the ends of the tusk to try and show the circumference, it is a lot larger than I originally thought. Finally - the tusk placed on the stand: I will be adding some modeling putty to the cross bar to help support the tusk and allow it to stand up a bit straighter. I don't want too much pressure on any of the glued joints. This being my first attempt at fossil prep I am relatively pleased with the finished product. There are a couple of small areas of white around some of the glued joints. Would it be safe to try and remove these by brushing on a small amount of acetone? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digit Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, PODIGGER said: Would it be safe to try and remove these by brushing on a small amount of acetone? Should be. I'd try a Q-tip soaked in acetone. Stand looks great. Well done! Cheers. -Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PODIGGER Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 Thanks Ken. I'll use the Q-tip and clean up the glue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digit Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Should work--repeat as necessary till you get the look you want. Cheers. -Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadrosauridae Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Very nice work! "There is no shortage of fossils. There is only a shortage of paleontologists to study them." - Larry Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PODIGGER Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 Thank you hadrosauridae! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilNerd Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 I see you are good at puzzles! Looks good. Especially compared to what you had to start with. Love the stand too. The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it. -Neil deGrasse Tyson Everyone you will ever meet knows something you don't. -Bill Nye (The Science Guy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PODIGGER Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 Thanks FossilNerd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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