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Fossils in Carry-on luggage (Germany - UK)

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Laura.A.S

I will be travelling to Germany for business but while there I will also go collecting in the Holzmaden quarries, I was wondering whether anyone has any experience flying from Germany (Stuttgart) to the UK (Manchester) with self collected fossils in their carry-on bag? Does anyone know if they will confiscate these or just ignore them?

Thanks in advance!

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thelivingdead531

Not the exact same situation but I flew from the US to UK with fossils in my carry on and no one said a thing. Hopefully someone else has had the experience you're looking for though! Good luck! 

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Nimravis

When I backpack in the US, I always pick up a few rocks, not very large, just big enough to write the location and date on. The last time I did this, I was stopped in California and they removed them from my carry on stating that they could be used as a weapon. Be prepared for that- I say pack them in non-carry on or mail them, just in case.

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connorp
12 minutes ago, Nimravis said:

Be prepared for that- I say pack them in non-carry on or mail them, just in case.

Forgive me if this is a dumb question, but how do you mail yourself something while traveling? Do you just put your mailing address as the return address as well? Seems like that wouldn't be allowed, but maybe I'm wrong.

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Nimravis
8 minutes ago, connorp said:

Forgive me if this is a dumb question, but how do you mail yourself something while traveling? Do you just put your mailing address as the return address as well? Seems like that wouldn't be allowed, but maybe I'm wrong.

Well if it was me, and I was overseas, I would put the address of the place that I was staying, even if it was a hotel and make sure that my home address and all custom forms are filled out correctly and then mail it. If I was in the US, I would not see a problem with putting the Hotel address on it. Again, if it did not fit in the "checked in" luggage I would do it the above way or not buy fossils because I would not want them taken at the airport. Lastly, I mail so many packages, I cannot recall the post office person looking at my home address, and sometimes the package was small and my address was not on the same side. 

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jpc

I have carried fossils on board many times.  And I have had two taken away.  Both were fairly large and 'could be used as weapons'.  One in Cleveland and one in Toulouse.  Smaller fossils seem to be OK, but Holzmaden is not a small fossil place.  You will find large slabs with ammonites and want to take them home.  If you have a check-in bag, put them in there.  If not, send them home via DeutschePost, which can be expensive... 100 USD for a small box.  

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HamptonsDoc

I fly home from the Tucson show every year with fossils in my carry on. I get there early and tell security I have fossils in my bag before they even scan it. I’m normally taken aside and they go through everything but I have never had a problem. 

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Pemphix

You need to have some things in mind:

- UK will not be part of EU by end of January. I would expect changes to some custom laws as well...

- Germany has a new cultural heritage law.

- The Holzmaden-Area is furthermore marked as a non-digging heritage area since 1979. Digging for collectors/non-authorized people is allowed only at special points (two pay-to-dig quarrys) which are permanent watched by authorized personal, having a look of what you've found. Pieces of scientific interest you need to hand-over to them (Treasure-Trove-Law Baden-Württemberg).

http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/kgsg/ (English Version available, free Access)

https://www.bundesregierung.de/resource/blob/992814/732744/ad279cb0809a01f9457ec9d6feaf7f7d/kulturgutschutz-im-ueberblick-download-bkm-data.pdf?download=1

http://www.kulturgutschutz-deutschland.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/HandreichungKGSG.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=2

https://www.steinkern.de/fundorte/baden-wuerttemberg/150-holzmaden-einige-infos-fuer-nicht-einheimische.html

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digit

All very good points. ;)

 

 

Cheers.

 

-Ken

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Laura.A.S

Thanks for the advice! I guess it really depends on who you get at security, but good idea to mention them before hand. If needs be I will probably pay for a hold bag then, seems like the best option if they pull you up on it. 

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Laura.A.S
On 1/29/2020 at 2:57 PM, Pemphix said:

- The Holzmaden-Area is furthermore marked as a non-digging heritage area since 1979. Digging for collectors/non-authorized people is allowed only at special points (two pay-to-dig quarrys) which are permanent watched by authorized personal, having a look of what you've found. Pieces of scientific interest you need to hand-over to them (Treasure-Trove-Law Baden-Württemberg). 

Yeah I am aware of its importance. I am having to visiting the Urweltmuseum there so thought I might as well visit the public quarry nearby, so it shouldn't be an issue about collecting. 

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Tidgy's Dad
On 1/29/2020 at 2:57 PM, Pemphix said:

You need to have some things in mind:

- UK will not be part of EU by end of January. I would expect changes to some custom laws as well...

Regarding Brexit, there is an eleven month transition period and during this time, customs laws and entry and exit requirements will remain unchanged. 

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Laura.A.S
On 1/29/2020 at 2:48 PM, digit said:

Assuming you find some nice fossils and make it back home safely with them, we'll be eager to see them here.

Ah yes, I will try my best to remember! 

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thelivingdead531

Digit’s post actually reminded me of a funny story that I thought I would share. Early last year my son and I were traveling from Stansted airport in London to Edinburgh. I put all of our belongings in the trays for the X-ray scanner and the bin with my purse was pulled aside, as I was too. The agent was asking if I had any liquids in my purse because it showed on the scanner that there was a liquid in there. I told him I was sure there wasn’t, unless I had forgotten something small (it was a really small purse) and I was sorry if I had. So he asks if he could dump it out to check and, of course, I said yes (like I have any other choice lol). It turns out that there was a mineral/gemstone that my son had bought in Belfast the month before and I forgot to take it out, and those types of things look like liquids on the X-ray screens. Thankfully we both had a good laugh and I was sent on my way.

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