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Santana formation fish


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Hello all

 

Today this fish came in my mailbox together with a specimen of Rhacolepis buccalis. This fish does not seem to be of the same species, but the skull, fins and tail are in bad shape or even absent. Most of the 'skin' is gone, uncovering some of the bones beneath. I know this will make it hard to ID, but maybe one of the fish experts can help me out. It's from the Cretaceous Santana formation of Brazil and it's about 21 cm long.

 

Thanks in advance.

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With the shape of the tail, and the overall length, I think this could be a Rhacolepis buccalis. 

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12 hours ago, Fossildude19 said:

With the shape of the tail, and the overall length, I think this could be a Rhacolepis buccalis. 

Thank you. Can it also be Tharrias araripes? I don't see any of the typical shales of Rhacolepis buccalis.

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12 hours ago, gigantoraptor said:

Thank you. Can it also be Tharrias araripes? I don't see any of the typical shales of Rhacolepis buccalis.

I don't think it is Tharrias araripes. The location of the dorsal fin is wrong. More like that of Rhacolepis buccalis.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Mark Kmiecik said:

I don't think it is Tharrias araripes. The location of the dorsal fin is wrong. More like that of Rhacolepis buccalis.

Where do you see a dorsal fin? I see some scratches from the preparation on top but I don't see any preserved fins.

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13 hours ago, gigantoraptor said:

Thank you. Can it also be Tharrias araripes? I don't see any of the typical shales of Rhacolepis buccalis.

I wouldn't think it could be Tharrias araripes

Tharrias is not often preserved in the nodules with so much relief. They tend to be more compressed than the Rhacolepis

I am quite confident this is a Rhacolepis with the scales removed. 

I think the nodule did not break cleanly, and this is the result. 

 

Unfortunately, this fossil is not much to look at.  :( 

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15 minutes ago, gigantoraptor said:

Where do you see a dorsal fin? I see some scratches from the preparation on top but I don't see any preserved fins.

I took a closer look -- it may indeed be scratches from prep. My bad, should have magnified it before.

 

 

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