Ruger9a Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Good morning folks. I am requesting confirmation or correction assistance concerning this tooth described as Konobelodon(?) tooth, Miocene from the Linxia Basin of China. I am wondering if it could be a Amebelodon, Platybelodon or Choerolophodon. Help please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruger9a Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 Forgot the measurements, it's 45mm Long x 35mm Wide x 34mm High. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldigger Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruger9a Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 Is this a tough one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 14 hours ago, Ruger9a said: Is this a tough one? For me, yep! Never even heard of Konobelodon, Amebelodon, Platybelodon, or Choerolophodon! I know next to nothing about Pleistocene China outside of pandas being fairly late arrivals to the region from Europe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruger9a Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Micah said: For me, yep! Never even heard of Konobelodon, Amebelodon, Platybelodon, or Choerolophodon! I know next to nothing about Pleistocene China outside of pandas being fairly late arrivals to the region from Europe... LOL. Looks like we may not be alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruger9a Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 **bump** hoping for a response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntonia Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Well it doesn't strike me as a platybelodon but I'm far from an expert in differentiating these less common proboscidean species. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 It's a beautiful tooth. Don't know of who belongs to, but I think it might be a deciduous tooth (premolar?). I'm not sure. 2 " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntonia Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 40 minutes ago, abyssunder said: It's a beautiful tooth. Don't know of who belongs to, but I think it might be a deciduous tooth (premolar?). I'm not sure. I agree, it's clearly the full crown but quite small, so I think it's likely a deciduous tooth. Definately very cool but going to be very difficult to get a posotive ID. My best recommendation would be to take it in hand to a paleontologist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruger9a Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share Posted February 16, 2020 4 hours ago, abyssunder said: It's a beautiful tooth. Don't know of who belongs to, but I think it might be a deciduous tooth (premolar?). I'm not sure. 3 hours ago, Huntonia said: I agree, it's clearly the full crown but quite small, so I think it's likely a deciduous tooth. Definately very cool but going to be very difficult to get a posotive ID. My best recommendation would be to take it in hand to a paleontologist. Thanks guys. This tooth does appear to be a difficult to confirm. I was hoping a paleontologist in our forum might be able to give me a response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase owen Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 sinomastodon molar 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruger9a Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 4 hours ago, Chase owen said: sinomastodon molar Thanks Chase! Can you tell me where you found the documentation identifying this tooth? I have been steadily researching it and did find one document that has a jaw section photo that does look like this tooth but it is so small it's had for me to compare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldigger Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 It looks like it's from a love child between a Deinotherium and a Gompothere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruger9a Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 12 hours ago, caldigger said: It looks like it's from a love child between a Deinotherium and a Gompothere. LOL, it might be. All the research I've done on Sinomastodon (based upon what Chase owen stated above) seems to match perfectly. The Deinotherium species is much larger and the teeth have a connecting ridge that does not coincide with the shape of this tooth. I am grateful for all recommendations as the research broadens my knowledge base. Thank you both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase owen Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 These teeth are difficult to find. This is a rare find I’ve only ever encountered a hand full of these. Here’s a good example of their tooth specifically the ones on the top left 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruger9a Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 Thanks Chase. All my research points to your recommendation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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