Le Quoc Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Hello everybody! I got those tooth from the seller in China. There are 2 tooth from Miocene - Gansu, and 1 jaw come from Harbin river bank - Heilongjiang province. But the seller don't have label for them. Wondering if anyone can identify it. Thanks, Le Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kiros Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 The two on the top based on the color and morphology seems from the quite common small hyaenid Ictitherium, For the partial jaw on the bottom seems from a ruminat but I need more photo to better identifying it (a photo of the occlusa view would be better) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Quoc Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share Posted February 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Kiros said: The two on the top based on the color and morphology seems from the quite common small hyaenid Ictitherium, For the partial jaw on the bottom seems from a ruminat but I need more photo to better identifying it (a photo of the occlusa view would be better) Thank you, I think the molar on the right belong to Machairodus here more photo of the jaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiros Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 The seems more hyena like to me. Chinese sellers love to say that every carnivore tooth is from machairodus. Anyway I can be wrong and it really is from a sabertooth cat. The jaw seems from a deer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Quoc Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share Posted February 16, 2020 Thank you, so how recognize which belong to hyena and which belong to the sabertooth cat, any different between them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiros Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Le Quoc said: Thank you, so how recognize which belong to hyena and which belong to the sabertooth cat, any different between them? I'm not an expert at all, I'm just a student and usually I work on rhinos, but to me that right molar seems quite small to be from a machairodus, hyenas instead have sturdy big premolars like the one on the left because the need them to crack bones and often the tip is cut. This is a percrocute partial mandible from my collection, you can see how massive are the premolars 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiros Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 This is the ictitherium premolar I have, pretty similar to yours 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Quoc Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 Thank you, very nice partial jaw! so do you think mine hyena tooth are ictitherium or Pecrocuta, I just read the document that they said there are hyena and also hyena-like feliform carnivores like Percrocuta and Adcrocuta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiros Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 12 hours ago, Le Quoc said: Thank you, very nice partial jaw! so do you think mine hyena tooth are ictitherium or Pecrocuta, I just read the document that they said there are hyena and also hyena-like feliform carnivores like Percrocuta and Adcrocuta. I think yours is ictitherium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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