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Bug du jour - Please help me identify my trilobite, One-eyed Jaques


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I purchased this beautiful pile of poo pellets, and the matrix contained this little hitchhiker. Since I know next to nothing about trilobites, I was hoping for an assist. He dates from the Middle Ordivician (Llandeilian), and was found in the Traveusot Group (Angers), in La Meignanne, Maine-et-Loire, France. I don't know if the second photo is more of Jaques or just another trilo-bit. Thanks for indulging me. :P

 

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Yeah, I'm digressing.....

 

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@GeschWhat, I have found some fossils from this area with what you call "pile-o-poo".  I always wondered if they were coproliths or eggs. The friends of the region more specialized in trilobites than me have never been able to answer me... So these are coproliths ! :thumbsu:

 

Coco

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Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici
Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici
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3 minutes ago, Coco said:

@GeschWhat, I have found some fossils from this area with what you call "pile-o-poo".  I always wondered if they were coproliths or eggs. The friends of the region more specialized in trilobites than me have never been able to answer me... So these are coproliths ! :thumbsu:

 

Coco

Yes they are. :egypt: I have been looking for nice examples of Ordovician coprolites for a long time! I have two other examples from the same location where the coprolith accumulation is more random. Because of the arrangement in this particular instance, I'm thinking (hoping) this pile might be at the entrance to a burrow. I started excavating on the reverse to see if I can verify this. 

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The eyes of Ormathops are too small.  Instead this specimen matches better with some of these possible large-eyed genera. 

 

A pygidium would help with a confident ID! mail?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmail.yimg.com%2Fok%2Fu%2Fassets%2Fimg%2Femoticons%2Femo71.gif&t=1588957515&ymreqid=23281213-8dc1-3cff-1cc9-d90003015700&sig=iLTY7Pr7pNQCKUoz62FZrA--~C

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figures from:

 

Lebrun, P. 2002

Trilobites de France. 1, Généralités sur les Trilobites, Massif Armoricain (Bretagne, Normandie Vendée).

[Trilobites from France. 1, General Information on Trilobites, Armorican Massif (Brittany, Normandy Vendée).]

Paris: Minéraux & Fossiles, Hors-Série, 14(1):1-132

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Here is a pygidium from a larger trilobite from the same area. I realize there may be more than one type in the area, so I don't know how much this one will help. It is a headless, rolled specimen, so this is the best I can do to capture the features. 

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Great poo's! What's the scale on those? Any detail on the surface?

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32 minutes ago, GeschWhat said:

Here is a pygidium from a larger trilobite from the same area. I realize there may be more than one type in the area, so I don't know how much this one will help. It is a headless, rolled specimen, so this is the best I can do to capture the features. 

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Thanks! I've been admiring your taste as well, though I would call it "specialized", or maybe "superb" :zzzzscratchchin:

Thanks for the close-up. The lack of surface detail is interesting. Shape doesn't seem completely homogeneous.

-a

 

On 5/8/2020 at 2:53 PM, GeschWhat said:

You, sir, are obviously a man of refined taste. No detail on the surface. Here are some closeups. :tiphat:

 

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I just stumbled on that post. That's a nice piece of Tomaculum. I found something like this on a nodule from La Hunaudière, not far from where yours come from.

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Hi,

 

I've seen that before, I don't know if they are coprolithes or eggs... @GeschWhat

 

Coco

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OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici

Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici
Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici
Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici
Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici
Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici
Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici

Un Greg...

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Very nice pellets, Lori! :)

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