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Son Found Ammonite with Beak !!!


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  This concretion was actually from a fossil trip last year.  Its two ammonites in one rock but the bigger ammo has half of its beak right in front of the appature.  Amazing.  These are known as Rhaeboceras halli and are from the Bearpaw Shales of eastern Montana.   He brought it over to my garage and wants me to 'clean' it up.

 

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21 minutes ago, FossilDAWG said:

That is an exceptional find!!

  Im sure my son thanks you.  He is just learning how to prep and this thing really does need some clean up. 

 

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Awesome Ron! Looks like you may have raised yourself a decent fossil hunter! ;) Can't wait to see it cleaned up a bit. 

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Amazing find :D Congrats to your son!

Hope the prep goes well - keep us updated!

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What a beautiful and interesting piece. :b_love1:

Great find from your son, lovely prep job by you coming up. 

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Stunning ammonites, and a beak bonus - WOW!!!  :wub::ammonite01:  Congrats to your son!

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Hey Ron, 

 

Is it a beak, or is it an Aptychus  ?

 

Either way, it's a cool find. 

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34 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said:

Hey Ron, 

 

Is it a beak, or is it an Aptychus  ?

 

Either way, it's a cool find. 

Actually, I think it might be it's mask!

 

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On 18/05/2020 at 1:55 PM, RJB said:

Its two ammonites in one rock but the bigger ammo has half of its beak right in front of the appature.

 

Can you show a close up of the "beak" please?

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RJB obviously refers to the aptychus seen on the right, which is part of the lower half of the ammonite jaw apparatus akin to the coleoid beaks. Why not indeed?

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Here it is, enlarged: 

 

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Congratulations, you have raised a great son!

Very nice find. Now you should start showing him how to prepare.

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2 hours ago, Fossildude19 said:

Here it is, enlarged: 

 

The definition of the photo does not give an idea. I am not convinced by the "beak" or Rhyncholite, nor by the aptycus

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If it is a beak then it’s massive for the size of the animals. Cephalopods tends to have tiny beaks for the body size.

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I beg to differ. If that's an Aptychus, and it appears to be one even though the photo's a bit blurry, then it would have no problem fitting into the mouth aperture. Nautilae have beaks. The function of Aptychae has been undergoing debate for years.

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5 hours ago, Ludwigia said:

I beg to differ. If that's an Aptychus, and it appears to be one even though the photo's a bit blurry, then it would have no problem fitting into the mouth aperture. Nautilae have beaks. The function of Aptychae has been undergoing debate for years.

 

Well there ya go, interesting. I was basing my answer of squid so probably not a good idea.

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1 hour ago, caterpillar said:
If it is an aptycus, it does not correspond to the size of the aperture of the ammonite
 

I agree on that point.

 

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